Purity Proclamation!

No More Dating | Finally Obey the Bible | Get the Inspired Purity Revealed in the Scriptures!

 

Josiahs Scott, Josiahs@trueconnection.org, www.TrueConnection.org

9/28/02; 10/18/03; 4/14/04; 10/2/04; 11/15/05; 5/15/07 (PART FOUR – WHAT TO DO, WHEN IT'S TIME TO PURSUE); 1/16/0?; 11/26/09; 11/15/10; 9/17/11; 9/25/11 (PSG); 2/4/12; 5/14/12; 12/16/12; 12/21/12; 3/4/13 (Recompiled/renamed); 5/30/13; (other dates); 8/17/13; 11/27/14; other dates; 4/3/15-4/4/15; 4/6/15; other dates; 4/24/15; 5/4/15; other dates; 6/27/15…4/23/25-4/24/25

 

These are unpublished personal notes for our community.

Like usual, in cases like this, you should contact us so that we can teach you all of these exciting and helpful things.

 

>> TODO / Additions!

 

Redeeming Immorality

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Holiness Proclamation

Excellence Of Celibacy

>> The Mightiness of Celibacy

>>>> Arranged Marriage |  Parable Matchup | The Mightiness of Celibacy

Sexual Sins that Send You to Hell

Homosexuality

PSA -- Personal Sexual Activity

Family Purity

 

Obtaining Song of Songs

>> Exclusivity

>> Temple Renewal

>> Parabolic Basics

Salvation Marriage

Privilege of Exaltation

>>> Appeal Recognition vs. Attraction Violations

>> Avoiding Cave Compromises ----- WHEN???? / Where ???

 

PDF: if we ever create a PDF, we will need to update 301 settings for: NoDatingScriptures.pdf

 

V: In the exclusivity doc if we put that a man cannot kill his wife to get out from a covenant, could we please move it from being directly under King Ahasuerus? because that might leave people believing that King Ahasuerus killed his 1st queen. Or if we keep it there probably we can make it clear to readers that he did not kill her.

 

Table of Contents

Intro. 7

Good Romance Praised. 7

Romantic Love is Good in its Right Context, Even Before Marriage. 7

Jacob & Rachel 8

Isaac and Rebekah. 8

Please Note: 8

Pre-marital Romantic Stories in the Bible: 8

God Likes Attraction. 8

Romance is to be Fulfilled Within Marriage. 9

Romance is An Intoxicant 10

Bad Romance Condmened. 11

Don’t Awaken Love. 11

A. Significant Cultural and Contextual Meanings. 12

B. Application of the Admonition. 12

Don’t “Go Beyond” As The Nations Which Don’t Know God! 12

A. Greek Definitions: 13

iii.      Contextually: To “Go Beyond” has ideas of, “come upon” or ‘lying with’ and so defrauding. Sometimes used in Greek writings for adultery. 13

B. Other Thoughts. 13

Not Even Named Once. 14

A. Fornication Not even Named. 14

B. No Appearance of Evil 14

C. Right in The Eyes of Others. 14

D. Ruth’s Example – Appropriate Cross Gender Boundaries. 14

Shamefacedness. 15

A. Greek. 15

B. Cultural Significance. 15

Flirting Eyes & Bald Scalps: 16

“Flirting Eyes” Definitions: 16

Walking in Wantonness. 16

More Examples of Eyes and Lust From Proverbs. 16

As Sisters. 17

Joseph and Mary. 18

Culturally. 18

Contextually. 18

Answer: “Flee!”. 18

“I’m Not Convicted About That”. 19

Questions/Thoughts: 20

More. 20

Temptation. 20

Lustful Desires. 20

Good Question: 20

It was said to Ruth. 21

Part Three – How to Actually Get FREE from Lust!! 21

The Basics of Defeating Forced Lust 21

Explanation. 21

The Basics. 22

About Being Clothed – It Completely Changes The Way You See “You” And Others About You. 22

Make Sure to Remove Hurt 23

Breaking Lust Ties. 23

Make Sure to Take Hold of 23

Die to Sexuality. 23

Renouncing the Heritage of Forced Lust 23

Extremist Boundaries. 23

Part Four – What to Do, When It's Time to Pursue.. 24

Integrity and Accountability. 25

Godly Devotion is not made up of: 25

Godly Devotion is made of: 25

Remember what was said to Ruth: 26

“Safe Proposals”. 27

What are the methods?. 27

Ruth Proposal 28

Prep: Integrity. 28

Protecting, Not Flirting. 29

Patience. 29

What Did She do?. 29

Why Didn’t He Propose?. 29

How to Propose?. 29

A Summary of this. 30

With Lifestyle. 30

Her Invitations. 30

His Suggestions. 31

For Them Both. 31

Ask Family First 31

Trust God Enough to Forgo Pursuing, Until He Exalts. 31

Humble Exalted. 32

Sacrifice In Order to Seek. 32

Guard Heart 32

Single Indeed. 32

Purity Devo. 34

Don’t go beyond. 34

Song of Songs. 34

Betrothal 34

As Sisters. 35

Equation. 35

Physical Romantic Affection. 35

Romance with Gas. 35

Define "dating". 35

Quote - References for God likes romance. 35

Sin Messed up God’s Design. 36

Sex was made good. 36

But is it now Bad?. 36

Sin is the Culprit 36

Messed up, and Given to Vanity. 36

Only Answer: Redemption. 36

Touch. 36

Soul Ties. 36

Incomplete thoughts. 37

How to Flee Lust 38

Seven Daily Scriptures. 38

Lust Dreams, Wet Dreams, Nocturnal Emissions. 39

Part Five – Miscellaneous. 40

Flee Passages. 40

Common Assumptions and Misconceptions about Romance. 41

List 41

Home Work. 42

Extra. 42

Culture. 43

Flirtation with many people or with one person, it is the same sin. 43

Fornication Realization. 43

Temple Renewal 43

Locked Up: The Excitement Of A Locked Up And Sealed Garden. 43

Parabolic Repentance & Redemption. 44

Question: Healed Hymen or Accepted by Faith?. 44

The Short Answer: Redemptive Faith From Him is Good, and a Special Miracle in Her is Exciting. 45

Prerequisites Before Going into Answers. 45

We Are Laying a Foundation First 45

The Main Battle is for the Exclusivity of the Soul, But The Body Might Be Included Too. 46

Confession & Healing – Two Notable Points to Consider Your Parable. 46

Defilement is Permanent by Nature. 47

Fornication Calls for Death, Not Marriage. 49

Implications of Permanent Defilement 51

Holiness Takes on Defilement 51

Rahab. 53

Great “Non-Virgins” Who Were Married. 54

Absolute Cleansing from Fornication. 54

God’s Virgin People?. 55

Redemption vs. Consequences?. 55

Fornication-Murder Has Painful Consequences, But There Are Exceptions. 55

Initial Default Threats & Challenges Until Help Comes. 56

What is Parabolic Repentance?. 57

A New and Specialized Ordinance and Custom.. 58

Not as Something Owed, But As A Privileged Opportunity to Testify. 59

How Long Should the Confession Be. 59

What Details Should Be Included?. 59

Let the Memory of Them Perish – Forgetting What Your Confessing! 59

The Great Risk of a Righteous Man Redeeming a Non-Virgin into a Proper Wife. 60

* The Law Says to Marry Someone After Defilement 61

** New Covenant Says, Marry ONLY in Lord – NO Interfaith Marriages! 62

Marital Redemption After Defilement – From Old Covenant to New Covenant 62

Horizontal Parabolic Forgiveness – The Only Way to Get Horizontal Forgiveness When You Have Been Ordained From The Beginning  63

Conclusions to Get Zealous for Restoration. 65

Healed Hymen. 65

Security Tab. 66

Pre-Marital Salvation by Spiritual Miracles. 66

Special Case of Supernatural Healing. 66

How Does This Supernatural Healing Pertain to Me?. 67

Cleaned Prostitutes Better than Dirty Pharisees. 68

Consider Your Ways. 68

Harlots and Tax Collectors Are Entering Before You. 68

You Are Full Of All Uncleanness. 68

You Shall Not Covet Your Neighbor’s Wife. 69

Unexposed. 69

Unknown And Unknowing. 69

Forget 70

Visual Virginity. 70

Re-Sensitized! 70

Your Bubble Can Show Your Level of Virginity. 70

Original Exhortation…... 70

Purity Renewal 71

A TIME of Restoration. 71

Obtaining Song of Songs. 71

Exclusivity. 72

Intros To Exclusivity. 72

Where Some of Us Are At 72

Purpose Goal: Solidifying Celibacy While Not Seeking Marriage. 72

Original Exhortation. 73

Desperate Cave Daughters Syndrome. 74

Lot’s Story – From Sodom to the Mountains. 74

No Change of Appetite When Walking Through the Desert 74

Pro_27:7 – To a Hungry Soul, Every Bitter Thing Is Sweet 75

Shun Desperation in Limited Contexts. 75

Long-Term Community Purity Protection? -- How to Maintain it 75

Avoiding Cave Compromises. 76

Knowing What You Really Want is A Big Answer 77

No Compromise. 77

Why You Should Be Motivated By Exclusivity! 77

Salvation of Exclusivity. 77

Restoration Must Be Deep. 78

Emotional Recovery. 79

You Did Well to Believe in Restoration. 79

Hosea 2 Restoration -- Cleaning Mouth And Memory. 79

Marriage Exaltation is An Escape From Temptation. 82

Exclusivity is Ultimately About Marriage. 82

Exclusivity is Always Worth it, Even if You Do Not Get Married in this Life. 82

The Clean Passions of Heavenly Marriage Do Not Endanger Exclusivity. 83

Sacrificing Marriage for Calling Means Great Marriage. 84

Give Over a Sacrifice Before Receiving Romantic Input 84

Great Marriage is The Reward of Exclusivity. 84

The Reward Does Not Interrupt The Sacrifice – It Properly Fulfills It 84

Divine Intimacy that Last Forever 85

The Blessedness of Marriage to God! 85

How Can a Woman Be 'Divine' in Marriage if She Represents The Assembly?. 85

God’s Motherly “Wings”. 86

The Divine Intimacy of Rationality, Perception, and Awareness. 87

God Likes Eyes. 87

Animal Vs. Human Eyes. 88

Eyes Pertain to Human Intimacy Because there is Something Rational In There. 88

The Image Of Rationality. 88

No False Starts! No Partial Initiations! – Premarital Polygamy is Intolerable. 89

Exclusivity--03--No-False-Starts--4.26.15.mp3. 89

The Unbearable Horror of Premarital Polygamy. 89

Consider the Pre-Exclusivity of the Patriarchs, and Beyond. 90

Tamar Waiting For A Suitor To Marry. 91

Even if you Are Interrupted By Courageous Death, False Starts are Tragic Evils. 92

Truth and Faithfulness Happens When You Only Proactively Love The One You Are Going To Marry. 93

How Ruth is Different 93

Arranged Marriage and/or Getting a Prophecy – Is There a Difference?. 94

“Arranged Marriage” Has it’s Spiritual Implications. 94

Do You Need The Gift of Prophecy To Get Married?. 95

Be Faithful With What You’ve Got 95

Arranged Marriages are A Good Way to Hear What God is Saying. 95

Surprise Marriage Callings. 96

Women Are Naturally Made Flexible. 97

Spiritual Exceptions to “Flexible” Women. 98

Not Having Special Knowledge Yourself Means Needing Help Knowing What God Wants. 100

Greater Marriage Means More Particulars, But Not Necessarily Less Arrangement 100

Normal-Looking Marriage, While Maintaining as Much Greatness as Possible. 101

Parable Matchup vs. Generic Qualities Lust 101

Intro 1: Reminders: We Are After Celibacy, Perception, & Greatness. 102

Intro 2: Generic Marital Ambitions Do Not Matchup Parables. 102

Polygamy to Exclusivity – Higher Stakes Cries Out for More Supernatural Help. 103

The Hazards of Qualities, and the Salvation of Calling. 104

Have You Been Tempted?. 104

Natural Parables and Spiritual Matchup. 105

A Disciple is Worth More than a Cow.. 105

Don’t Reapply Advertisement-Mentality from The World. 106

Qualities Reoccur, But Calling Happens Only Once. 106

The Point: Calling is the Only Thing Worth Desiring. 108

Understanding Marriage Parables. 109

Different Glories. 109

Men’s Parables. 109

How to Recognize Your Parable. 109

Monogamy for Jesus & Men. 109

Salvation Marriage / Saving Marriage. 110

Getting Greater After Marriage. 110

Salvation Marriage Throughout the Bible. 111

What Does Salvation Marriage Include?. 112

New Covenant Women Can Spiritually Save Men. 112

Tobias Defines a Salvation Marriage – as Told in Tobit 115

Marital Fillings?. 115

Al: "All Things Are yours" vs. ‘Getting Saved by Great Associations within Marriage to Great People. 116

Will Your Salvation Marriage Mean Comfort and/or Discipline?. 116

What Happens when a Salvation Marriage Means Discipline & Correction?. 116

Side Spiritual Notes – How We Ended Up in This Bible Study. 118

Followups. 119

Discipline Follow Up. 119

Identifying The Privilege of Exaltation. 119

Prerequisite Disclaimers and Explanations. 119

What is “Identifying The Privilege”?. 120

We Must Understand the Nature of What is Going On. 121

Who’s Got the Privilege in Each Marriage?. 121

Ruth 3 – Ruth to Boaz and Boaz to Ruth. 121

1st Samuel 18 – David’s Feelings of Unworthiness Toward Marry Saul’s Daughters. 122

Michael’s Failure to Recognize the Privilege of David! 123

2Sa_9:1 – Mephibosheth’s Good Confessions to David. 123

1st Samuel 25 – Abigail’s Humility Toward the Surpassing Privilege of David! 124

Romans 3 – Even Your Pre-Salvation Past Can Affect Your Concept of Worthiness. 124

Luke 17 – 10 Lepers. 124

1st Corinthians 15 – Not Worthy To Be Called An Apostle. 125

Luke 5 – Peter Feels Unworthy – I Am A Sinful Man. 125

Acts 10 – I Myself Am Also A Man. 125

Reviews, Summaries, and Partial Applications. 125

Faithful Feelings of Unworthiness Beget Impassioned Tenacity, Not Cowardice – Concluding Climaxes! 126

Identifying The Privilege. 128

Appeal Recognition vs. Attraction Violations. 129

Different Ways of Responding to Someone’s Gender Appeal 129

Deeper Definitions of Disaster and Duty. 130

Get Inspiration from God, or Else Wage War Against False Definitions of Yourself 131

Irk & Attraction Both Come From Pride. 132

The Goal and Statement of Faith of Appeal Recognition. 133

Recognition is Better at Avoiding Lust Than Fear Tactics. 134

Don’t Feel Attracted to Non-Spouses! 134

Sin & Temptation vs. Appeal Recognition. 134

Don’t Take Your Lust Temptations Seriously. 136

Appeal Recognition Without Lust 136

Appealing Examples You Might Have Seen or Heard About 136

Fighting For Cleanness In The Midst of Potent Recognition. 137

Thorns! – Helpful Boundaries That Even Apply To The Righteous. 137

Selfish Imagination Lust After Your Fantasy of Their Person. 138

Michal’s Bitter Story of Short-Lived Lust-Love of David. 138

A Fan Proposes to a Famous Singer 138

The Distraction And Deception of Qualities-Lust 139

Dreaming for Yourself About Someone You Do Not Actually Know.. 139

Shinning Light and Redefining Love by Loving Who They Really Are. 139

The Guilt of Loving Fairytales Over Integrity. 140

Betraying Prince Charming by Your Own Self-Deception. 141

The Betrayal of David in His Trial 141

The Bitter End of Fairy Tales. 141

Minimize Attractions. 141

Name some generic things girls are sometimes attracted to. 141

A Summary of What it Means to Minimize Attractions. 142

Foolish Harlot: “I Feel so Much Love for Him!”/ Let Us Solace Ourselves With Love…... 142

You Shall Not Be Shallow in Your Sorrowful Temptations. 142

Where is the Real Source of Your Attraction?. 143

Winnow Out the Chaff So You Only Have Truth Left 143

Consecrated Parables Are The Only Valuable Lust 143

Minimize Everything That Does Not Save. 144

Wisdom is Very Unexcited About Lust 144

Taking The Magic Out Of Lust 145

Deep Sleep vs. Deep Quality. 145

Fight Deception. 145

Shallow Seductresses. 146

Personal Stories / Examples of Treachery, Foolishness and Shallowness. 146

The Point: Truth Says Knowing People is the Value that Makes You Exclusive. 147

Obsession is Required For Exclusive Marriage. 147

What is This “Obsession” Then?. 148

Flesh vs. Faith -- The Temporary and Permanent Obsessions of those who loose and Those who win. 148

Obsession Marks Exclusivity. 148

Seduction Lust vs. Obsession. 149

Tobit’s Obsession. 150

Obsession of Boaz. 150

The Bible is the Real Source of Obsessing Romance. 151

Getting Exclusive! 151

Your God Will Be Your Husband. 151

Unfaithful Breaches Before Marriage Sets You Up for Intolerable Adulteries After Marriage. 151

Josiahs’ Particular Parable of Exclusivity. 152

Women Absolutely Must Have Monogamy, Even More Than Men. 153

The Point: the Reward of Exclusivity is Greatness and Exaltation and Blessed Peace. 153

Defining Fornication. 153

It is assumed that Monotheists Would Not Fornicate, But marry. 153

Homosexuality. 153

Intro. 155

Men Can Be Defiled. 156

Incest 158

Revelation 3 – You are Wretched! 158

Punished by Things You Don’t Recognize. 159

Fornication is Wrong. 161

Family Purity. 161

40-day goal 162

Birth. 162

Ezekiel on Separation from Blood Flow.. 165

Monthly Absence. 165

Can Sister’s Raise Their Brothers / Change their Diapers?. 166

Sexual Courage. 167

The Excellence of Celibacy. 167

The Blessing of Celibacy. 167

OT Examples of Celibacy. 168

Jesus Was Celibate. 168

Question: Could JC Have Been Married?. 168

Demonic Fake Knowledge Says JC was Married…... 168

Isaiah 53. 169

Celibacy Taught by Jesus & Paul 169

Women at a Distance at the Crucifixion. 169

Jesus Gave Away a Mom, NOT a Wife. 170

Resurrection Restrictions -- Purity Requirements Enforced for Women. 170

Mom at Pentecost, Not a Wife. 170

Early Church Confirms Celibacy. 170

Jesus’ Heavenly Wife. 171

Concluding Jesus was Unmarried. 171

 

 

 

Intro

If we don’t meet God’s standards for purity then we are promised condemnation and wrath from God Himself (1Th_4:6). In all of this God has shown Himself extremely more practical than we have ever given Him credit for, since He cares about us enough to show us what is right, and what standard He commands all men to keep to not be sexually polluted and defiled before Him. Did you know that the Bible actually says how God feels about kissing, holding hands, and all such romantic affection outside of marriage? Did you know that God specifically and clearly demands a purity far beyond and completely contrary to our blind and lustful culture? Beware lest you trespass against Him without knowing it and endanger your own soul (Gen_20:3)! But on the contrary, if you take hold of True Biblical purity you of all people are most blessed, and will inherit the amazing promises of God due to the sanctification of your sexuality before Him!

 

 

How will a young man make his way clean?…

(Ps. 119:9 KJV-Based) – Good Question!

 

Good Romance Praised

 

Romantic Love is Good in its Right Context, Even Before Marriage

 

It would not be fair for anyone to read what I have written in this paper on dating and premarital romances, without deeply considering its entirety in the light of the following preliminary clarifications…

 

To ‘be in love,’ and to be so when engaged is Biblical. God likes clean romantic love.  He even has romantic stories that lead to marriage written in Scripture multiple times.

 

Jacob & Rachel

 

“And Jacob served seven years for Rachel, and they seemed to him a few days, for the love he had for her, (Gen_29:20 MKJV).”

[That is, “seven years” as payment for the bride price, to marry Rachel.]

 

Isaac and Rebekah

 

And Isaac went out to meditate in the field at the eventide: and he lifted up his eyes, and saw, and, behold, the camels were coming.  64  And Rebekah lifted up her eyes, and when she saw Isaac, she lighted off the camel.  65  For she had said unto the servant, What man is this that walketh in the field to meet us? And the servant had said, It is my master: therefore she took a vail, and covered herself  65  …and she became his wife; and he loved her, (Gen_24:63-67 KJV).

 

Please Note:

 

i.                    One of our sayings in modern culture is “If you got it, show it,” but God’s type of romance involves “covering one’s self,” not “showing off.”  This should be obvious, but some still think that “advertising” themselves is OK. For more on this see: Ex 28:42 where God indicates how He feels about a minimum dress code (speaking of underwear).

And 1Ti_2:9, “In the same way, that women also adorn themselves in decent clothing (WEB).

 

ii.                  Isaac did not need to “get to know her” before they married.  Conforming to God’s ordained plan, they were given 1 verse to “get to know each other” before they were married.   Though it is not always so short in every case, we can learn not to cling to the deceptions given to us that say “You need to get to know each other first before marriage to know if they are the right one and to have a successful marriage.”  Let us believe that God actually knows better than we do, and He does not see this as a universal need.

 

Pre-marital Romantic Stories in the Bible:

Isaac and Rebecca Gen 24; Ruth and Boaz Rth 2 - 3; David and Abigail 1Sa_25:3, 1Sa_25:39-44;

 

God Likes Attraction

See: Beautiful People

 

 

Romance is to be Fulfilled Within Marriage

 

Scripture speaks of one who “Finds a Wife” -to Marry Not just a “girl friend” to date:

 

Pro_18:22 He who finds4672 a wife finds a good thing, and obtains favor of the LORD, (KJV-Based).

 

ð Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries

finds4672- “…that is, appear…

 

ð John Wesley's Explanatory Notes on the Whole Bible:

“…Favour – Obtains her not by his own diligence, but by God's good providence.”

John Wesley here is noting the key that the Bible is trying to give us in Pro_18:22.  When the Bible speaks of “favor” it is negating the ability of man and all his efforts to do it himself.  This is just as another Scripture says, “…a prudent wife is from the LORD, (Pro_19:14 KJV).” teaching us also that it should be a dreaded thing to obtain a wife ourselves instead of by the Lord’s good favor, because without it we are libel to get someone not prudent (or “foolish”).

 

Mat_19:5-6 “…He which made them at the beginning made them male and female,  5  And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they two shall be one flesh…”  (KJV-Based)

 

ð Sex is for marriage and until then we should not go hunting for either.  Dating is practically our way of not letting God find a spouse for us, by taking it into our own hands.  Our dating practices usually lead to premarital sex, though we may or may not go all the way to “Home plate.” You will not find a spouse and obtain God’s favor unless you do it in the manner described in the Bible.  For the cause of marriage shall a man leave parents and cleave to a wife, not for the cause of a girl friend, or to date, or for indulging in pre-marital romance. 

 

The Bible says,

 

Ecc_9:9 WEB  Live joyfully with the wife whom you love…

Pro_5:18-19 WEB  …Rejoice in the wife of your youth.  19  A loving doe and a graceful deer -- Let her breasts satisfy you at all times. Be captivated always with her love.

 

But says nothing of enjoying a girlfriend.

 

Heb_13:4 MKJV  Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled, but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.

 

God was so pleased with this kind of (marital) romance that He had a whole book written on it called Song of Solomon or Song of Songs, which means, “The most beautiful of all songs.”

 

 

But let us step back for a bit from marriage and consider romance even by itself;

In any case (right or wrong) we must be honest enough to admit…

 

Romance is An Intoxicant

 

Even though they do evil, the world knows that they should elect a responsible driver before they drink and drive because they realize, that alcohol is intoxicating.  Sadly most church people are more foolish in this than drunkards.  The Bible and just plain wisdom both clearly declare that romance of any kind is an intoxicant.  How foolish of us to rely upon our own morals in such a shaky time of blurred judgment, when we are considering a relationship with someone?

 

Son_1:2, 4, 5 MKJV  Let Him kiss me with the kisses of His mouth; for Your love is better than wine… 4 …we will remember Your love more than wine… 5 …for I am sick with love

Son_8:6, 7 MKJV  …for love is strong as death… its flames are flames of fire… 7 Many waters cannot quench love…

(Also see_4:10; 5:1; 7:2, 9; 8:2; Rev_17:2 intimacy is compared to wine; 1Co_7:9 describes it as burning)

 

Pro_5:19 WEB …Be captivated always with her love.

(Also See Pro_5:20; 6:25; 7:13, 22 ð it can make you act foolish; Gen_34:8 ð it is addictive; Due_23:10 ð you can suffer “withdrawal” when at war)

 

Pro_30:18-20 KJV  There be three things which are too wonderful for me, yea, four which I know not:  19  The way of an eagle in the air; the way of a serpent upon a rock; the way of a ship in the midst of the sea; and the way of a man with a maid.  20  Such is the way of an adulterous woman; she eateth, and wipeth her mouth, and saith, I have done no wickedness.

 

Notice that it says that the way of a man and a woman are just as overwhelming as a man with an adulteress. 

If this writer of SCRIPTURE says these things are “too wonderful” for him to even know, why do we so arrogantly insist that we can make the right decisions and handle a relationship just by ourselves and that when romance has taken primary influence over our minds?  When are we going to at least get as wise as some drunkards and elect a sober person to drive for us?

 

 

 

Bad Romance Condmened

The Sin of pre-marital and extra-marital Indulgence

 

By specifying “Extra-Marital Indulgence” I mean flirting with anyone that you are not presently married to (whether before or after marriage).  By mentioning “Premarital Flirting” we are talking about indulging in romantic desires and stirring them up before marriage.

 

Don’t Awaken Love

 

Son_2:7 WEB-based I charge you, daughters of Jerusalem, By the roes, and by the hinds of the field, That you don’t stir up, nor awaken love, *Until it so desire,

 

(*that is “until it is ready.” Repeated in Son_3:5 & Son_8:4).

 

 

A. Significant Cultural and Contextual Meanings

 

This verse is preceded by rich descriptions of romantic love such as “love,” “lovesick,” and Solomon’s “embrace” to his wife.  Also present are cultural words for intimate passion such as “raisins” and “apples.”  All this is given in the context of verse four’s description of a wedding with words like “banquet house” and “banner” (both of which are present in Jewish weddings). And for this reason,

“…don’t stir up, nor awaken love, until it is ready” - for marriage.

 

B. Application of the Admonition

 

The queen had an exemplary, passionate, ideal love life (married to Solomon), and charged the daughters (the unmarried women) of Jerusalem not to stir up love until marriage if they wanted to have what she had.  The whole book describes how overwhelming the right kind of love life is for her and the king, and is interspersed with admonitions: ‘If you want this kind of rewarding romantic love story when you’re married, then do it right beforehand!  Don’t open this love thing until you are ready to go all the way.’

     Flirting, dating, and “going out” (as our culture practices them) prematurely (i.e. “premaritally”) stirs up sexual desire that can’t lawfully be fulfilled by “going all the way,” until marriage.  Let us set our face to heed her admonition, in the hope that is offered: If we do it right, then we set ourselves up for an exciting “Song of Solomon” romantic marriage.

     In the mean time when dealing with attractive girls or guys, it commands us,

 

Pro_4:23 Jos.Trans Diligently guard your heart because out of it goes the issues of life…

Note: this representation needs much revision!

 

If you don’t guard your heart, then by our sinful default, love will stir up pre maritally in us and lead us away by its strong intoxicating sway.

 

 

 

Don’t “Go Beyond” As The Nations Which Don’t Know God!

 

1Th_4:1-9 CAB  Finally then [Τὸ λοιπὸν οὖν – so, for the rest], brothers, we request [ἐρωτῶμεν] of you and exhort you [παρακαλοῦμεν – lit. call next to (i.e. speaking closely and earnestly to you for your benefit)] in the Lord Jesus [ἐν Κυρίῳ ᾿Ιησοῦ], just as [καθὼς] you received from [παρελάβετε παρ᾿] us how you ought [δεῖ] to walk [around (περιπατεῖν)] and to please God, that you should *abound more [* περισσεύητε μᾶλλον].  2  For you know [οἴδατε] what commandments [παραγγελίας – lit.  messages/ proclamations/ announcements...] we gave […next to] you through the [τοῦ] Lord Jesus.  3  For this is the will [θέλημα] of God, your sanctificationG38 [ἁγιασμὸς – holiness (i.e. sexual purity in this case)]: that you [all] should *abstain from fornication [ἀπέχεσθαι ὑμᾶς ἀπὸ τῆς πορνείας – lit. in holding away, be away from prostitution, (by application, sex before marriage)],  4  that each of you should know [εἰδέναι] how to possess [κτᾶσθαι] his own vessel [σκεῦος] in sanctification [ἁγιασμῷ – holiness] and honor [or value (τιμῇ)],  5  not in lustful passion [πάθει ἐπιθυμίας – lit. hurtful/ painful (fig. deeply emotional) heatings upon], like [also (καὶ is omitted in English here)] the Gentiles [lit. nations (i.e. non-Jews)] who do not know [εἰδότα] God,  6  that no one should transgressG5233 [ὑπερβαίνειν – go above/ “beyond” (i.e. the limits); fig. overreach] against and to defraudG4122 [πλεονεκτεῖν – steal from/ defraud] his brother in this matter [πράγματι], because [διότι – lit. through that (i.e. that through/ because of/ on account of this)] *the Lord [* Κύριος] is the [an] avenger [ἔκδικος – lit. one who brings out righteous justice (on criminals/ sinners); (a disher) out (of) justice] concerning [περὶ] all [these things (πάντων τούτων – omitted in English)], just as [καθὼς] we [also (καὶ)] told you before [προείπαμεν] and *solemnly [thoroughly] testified [διεμαρτυράμεθα – lit. (intensely) witnessed/ testified through (and through)].  7  For God did not call [ἐκάλεσεν] us to [ἐπὶ – lit. upon] uncleanness [ἀκαθαρσίᾳ], but in sanctificationG38 [ἐν ἁγιασμῷ – in holiness].  8  Therefore [τοιγαροῦν] he who rejects this [ἀθετῶν – lit. disarranges (this appointment); fig. breaks/ disobeys/ ignores/ contradicts/ makes void this law] does not reject [ἀθετεῖ – disarrange] man, but [ἀλλὰ] God, who has given [δόντα] *His Holy Spirit [τὸ Πνεῦμα αὐτοῦ τὸ ῞Αγιον – the spirit of his, the one (that is) holy] to [εἰς – into] you.  9  Now concerning [περὶ – arround] brotherly love [φιλαδελφίας]

> Update translation: (1) no dating (Scrip & List); (2) Sin Lists; (3) Woes of Wordiness;

 

A. Greek Definitions:

 

i.                    Go beyond” or “take advantage” kai pleonektein ton adelphon autou

G5233 ὑπερβαίνω huperbainō hoop-er-bah'ee-no

From G5228 and the base of G939; to transcend; that is, (figuratively) to overreach: - go beyond. (Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries)

ii.                  1) to step over, beyond 2) metaphorically 2a) to transgress 2b) to overstep the proper limits 2c) trespass, do wrong, sin 2c1) of one who defrauds another in business 2d) overreaches, (Thayer’s Greek Definitions).

iii.                Contextually: To “Go Beyond” has ideas of, “come upon” or ‘lying with’ and so defrauding. Sometimes used in Greek writings for adultery.

iv.                G4122 “Defraudπλεονεκτέω pleonekteō pleh-on-ek-teh'-o From G4123; to be covetous, that is, (by implication) to over reach: - get an advantage, defraud, make a gain. (Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries)

v.                  The World’s Definition: To “Score!” with a girl or guy.

 

B. Other Thoughts

 

i.                    Cheapening Vs. Honor ß

ii.                   “Go Beyond/ Defraud” - Treating fine china like a paper plate.

iii.                 To “Go Beyond” is the predecessor of “Unbridled Lust”

 

2Pe_2:18-22 MKJV  For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they lure through the lusts of the flesh, by unbridled lust 766, the ones who were [just] escaping from those who live in error;  19  …they themselves are the slaves of corruption… 22 (WEB)  But it has happened to them according to the true proverb, "The dog turns to his own vomit again," and "the sow that had washed to wallowing in the mire."

 

iv.                You must bridle passions, so that they don’t take you “beyond proper limits”.

v.                  Don’t think that you are practically connected with Jesus if you are flirting, because you are committing the first parts of fornication!  And God says that He, “…is an avenger in all these things…” (V.6) not just what we see as the technical sin but “all” things that lead up to it, as also the Bible has continually “forewarned you and testified,” (V.6).

 

Not Even Named Once

 

Fornication” is premarital sex.  But we can commit it before actually going all the way by means of lust, (Mat_5:27-30).  In the same way, anything that even leads toward the direction of the literal act of fornication is sin.  Many people ask, “How far is to far?” – Any amount of the direction of fornication at all is sin.

 

A. Fornication Not even Named

 

Eph_5:3 MKJV …let fornication4202 and all uncleanness or covetousness not be once named among you, as becomes saints…

[Eph_5:3 NIV …But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality4202…]

 

Jud_1:23 WEB and some save, snatching them out of the fire with fear, hating even the clothing stained by the flesh.

 

B. No Appearance of Evil

 

1Th_5:22 KJVA  Abstain from all appearance of evil.

 

2Co_6:3 MKJV  We are in nothing giving cause of stumbling, in no way, so that the ministry may not be blamed,

 

C. Right in The Eyes of Others

 

Rom_12:17 NIV Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do [or “provide”] what is right in the eyes of everybody.

 

2Co_8:21 NIV For we are taking pains to do what is right, not only in the eyes of the Lord but also in the eyes of men

 

 

D. Ruth’s Example – Appropriate Cross Gender Boundaries

How this Moabite gentile learned the purity boundaries of monotheism!

 

“Stay close by the young women” – Rth_2:8, Rth_2:22; Rth_3:2, Rth_3:10-11

 

Exo_19:12-13 KJV  And you shall set boundaries [i.e. like the “limits” of a fence] unto the people round about, saying, “Be careful to yourselves. Do not go up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whoever touches the mount shall be surely put to death:  13  There shall not a hand touch it, that won’t surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live”

 

This applies to the holiness of sexuality in many ways as the holiness of God.

 

Boundaries

Shulamite at elisha's feet

 

Same with women at Jesus

 

Yes, distant saftey is right with those you do not pertain to, but it is not so with all.

 

Beauty Holified

 

See: BDC > Beauty Holified

Biblical-Dress-Code.htm#BeautyHolified

 

(Remember: BDC is about visual purity form the heart)

 

Holiness Proclamation

Holiness Revelation

9/9/21-9/10/21; 9/12/21; ~9/17/21-9/22/21; 11/8/22-11/9/22; 10/24/23; [10/29/23; 11/1/23; {11/8/23;} 1/13/24];  [1/2/24; 1/14/24]; 1/8/24; 9/5/24; 12/19/24-12/20/24 [2/17/25…3/31/25] …6/7/25; 6/12/25

See: SRP > Be Perfect! & SRP > Circumcision = Holiness

See: Purity-Proclamation.htm#Holiness

 

Reminders

·         Clean Heart see God

·         No Holiness, No Heaven! (Heb_12:14)

 

Consider these most important convicting passionate exciting motivating deep critical fiery versus in the Bible about holiness and how it convicts of sin, and how much we need it in order to get heaven, and how the only way we can seriously consider ourselves real Christians or worthy of heaven is if we've got Holiness as an essential requirement and prerequisite for eternal life…

 

 

Holiness Defined

~8/26/21-8/27/21

 

Holy ≈ Separation

 

ָקדוֹשׁ

H6918

 

AHLB claims it eventually comes from:

חד

See: H2297-H2301

 

H2297 H2298 H2299 H2300 H2301

 

 

Greek: Holy-Purity ≈ Holiness

 

Holiness Lost

the decline of Holiness and the rise of Apostasy

9/12/21; 6/12/25

 

interestingly the usage frequency of the word “holiness” drastically dropped from the 1800s to 1900.

 

We can see a very interesting and provocative and disturbing correlation with the sloppiness of the 1900s with the abandonment of caring about holiness.

 

 

A. W. Tozer:

 

"God is holy with an absolute holiness that knows no degrees, and this He cannot impart to His creatures." [1]

A. W. Tozer. The Knowledge of the Holy. HarperOne. 1978. pp. 105-106.

 

This claims that God has declared Christians to be holy and righteous, even though they are not in their daily walk.

...

Christ did everything that is necessary for our salvation. He did all the work! But our practice is still sinful. In theology this is called our position versus our practice.

https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa-archives/question/what-is-difference-between-holy-and-righteous-in-bible/

9/9/21

 

Jer_2:2 WEB  Go, and cry in the ears of Jerusalem, saying, Thus says Yahweh, I remember for you the kindness of your youth, the love of your weddings; how you went after me in the wilderness, in a land that was not sown.

Jer_2:2 I remember the kindness of your youth, and the love of your betrothal,

Jer_2:2  Καὶ εἶπεν Τάδε λέγει κύριος Ἐμνήσθην ἐλέους νεότητός σου καὶ ἀγάπης τελειώσεώς σου τοῦ ἐξακολουθῆσαί σε τῷ ἁγίῳ Ισραηλ, λέγει κύριος

Jer_2:3 WEB  Israel was holiness to Yahweh, the first fruits of his increase: all who devour him shall be held guilty; evil shall come on them, says Yahweh.

Jer_2:3 in following the Holy One of Israel,” says the Lord. “Israel was holiness unto the Lord, and the firstfruits of His increase. All that devoured him shall offend; evils shall come upon them,” says the Lord.

Jer_2:3  ἅγιος Ισραηλ. τῷ κυρίῳ ἀρχὴ γενημάτων αὐτοῦ· πάντες οἱ ἔσθοντες αὐτὸν πλημμελήσουσιν, κακὰ ἥξει ἐπ᾿ αὐτούς, φησὶν κύριος.

 

Righteousness, Then Holiness

9/10/21; 6/12/25

 

Rom_6:22 – being a slave of righteousness produces Holiness, and Holiness results in eternal life

>> TSK

 

doing what is right is righteousness / real Justice

 

doing what is right makes you righteous

 

righteousness can begin immediately but Holiness is a product of righteousness

 

Holiness from Hebrew is the oneness and unity of purpose unto which you are separated.

 

being separated unto one special unique purpose is the immediate meaning of being holy.

 

the devoted singularity of purpose makes you holy.

 

but when the separation of holiness is achieved in the Bible we are talking about a longer-term deeper character accomplishment where not only are immediate actions are right but the deeper integrity of our soul has dormant inactive strongholds removed so that we can serve not only doing what is immediately right but also having the resulting separation of cleanliness from inactive unresolved potential sins.

 

so righteousness is an immediate action to do what is right and holiness is a deeper separation that results by patient perseverance and endurance that systematically removes all common impulses of the flesh and the deeper strongholds that disagree with the truth of God to the point that we can serve God in increasingly special unique clean capacities...

 

Glory of Holiness

and this special unique clean holiness allows us to participate in the Divine glory of God upon the earth.

 

because we can also see a profound reality that increasing in this clean holiness downloads a Divine Glory upon the one who is holy.

 

participating in Holiness directly correlates with a Divine substance of Glory...

 

we can profoundly see this glorious and deep mystery in Isaiah 6...

 

>>Scrip:

Isa_6:3 – holy holy, holy... the whole earth is full of his glory

 

we see that Holiness has a Divine Glory emanating out of it.

 

Exo_15:11

Rev_4:8-9

Rev_15:3-4

 

this is where the idea eventually came from, that holy ones can have a Halo of Glory around their heads in pictures.

 

the pictures themselves can be quite fictional, but the original concept is absolutely real.

 

Only God is Holy?

and yet, of course we have to deal with the hecklers and Christian atheists who deny the very cherished and special hope of participating in such great and sizzling promises...

 

without thinking at all, and without any scientific integrity or any real text of Scripture, Protestants will automatically reflex to say that only God is holy and only God has Glory...

 

and that's one of the solas of the Protestant Reformation: to the glory of g-d alone

 

and sure, God will not share his glory with another, but what happens if those who were once humans are upgraded and made one spirit with God?

 

as the perfect Scriptures say which cannot be broken:

 

>>Scrip:

the two will be one flash

 

and this is directly applied to the assembly and to anointed one in Ephesians 5, and Paul goes on to say:

 

and a husband who is loving his wife is loving himself

 

>>Scrip:

but what he is really speaking about is Anointed one and the assembly...

 

>>Scrip:

therefore we are under ‘a better covenant that is based on better promises’, so that...

 

and much orthodoxy the Old Testament truly said:

 

>>Scrip:

I will not share my glory with another

 

and yet the New Testament promises of being joined to the godhead says:

 

>>Scrip:

if you are persecuted on account of anointed one the glory of God and of Anointed One rests on you...

 

and we shouldn't be so worried about the orthodoxy of these things in one sense because this Glory which rests on a man no matter how profound it is, it is a borrowed righteousness and a borrowed Holiness and a borrowed Glory which still belongs to God.

 

but watch out on wicked Bible hating protestant! because when the bride is joined physically with God as well as spiritually, you will have no more excuses when she speaks from Heaven as one spirit and one body with God!

 

and consider the profoundness of having God's holy Glory resting upon us...

 

... dup?

therefore we are under a better covenant that is based on better promises, so that...

....

 

>>Scrip:

we are commanded to be holy because he is holy, and therefore it is not our own righteousness nor our own Holiness we are pursuing or seeking to establish, but in fact, we are actually pursuing the same substance of Holiness that is God.

 

if we are to be holy because God is holy, the only Holiness or righteousness we can have is that which is borrowed directly from God, and there is nothing that emanates out of God that is not Divine.

 

because of this we are commanded to participate in God's holiness which emanates directly out of God and is God, in the exact same orthodoxy that Jesus is God.

 

Inspired Holiness

2/19/26

Be Holy as God is Holy -- Holy, Like God’s Holiness

 

Lev_11:44 – Be holy as God is Holy

 

>>Scrip: ES

Lev_11:44 NKJV For I am the LORD your God. You shall therefore consecrate yourselves, and you shall be holy; for I am holy. Neither shall you defile yourselves with any creeping thing that creeps on the earth.

Lev_19:2 NKJV Speak to all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say to them: ‘You shall be holy, for I the LORD your God am holy.

Lev_20:26 NKJV And you shall be holy to Me, for I the LORD am holy, and have separated you from the peoples, that you should be Mine.

1Pe_1:15 NKJV but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct,

1Pe_1:16 NKJV because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.”

Holiness includes practical obedience and separation from defilement:

2Co_7:1 NKJV Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

Heb_12:14 NKJV Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:

Eph_5:27 NKJV that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish.

Rom_6:22 NKJV But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.

1Th_4:7 NKJV For God did not call us to uncleanness, but in holiness.

 

Get Enlightened!

6/15/25

 

>>Scrip:

 

Eph_4: everything that enlightened IS light

 

2Co_2:

 

When you seriously look at righteous Holy light, you become transformed into that light!

 

You cannot stand unholiness and sin any longer!

 

Connecting to the HOLY God In Prayer

Connecting to the Right God In Prayer

10/29/23; 11/1/23; 1/13/24; 6/12/25

 

Come into The Fire!

>>Scrip:

Exodus 32-33

notice that God really wishes He had people that loved Him enough to come up on the mountain

this is fulfilled in Romans 12 and other passages

 

What does that look like?

 

>>Scrip:

Isaiah 6

notice that God likes to involve you in His flaming fire when He sticks His fiery purifying Truth all up in your mouth

 

>>Scrip:

Jesus in the Throne Room

Rev_4 – 5

 

Lamp Shinning Over Head -- in Prayer

Job_29:3 WEB  when his lamp shone on my head, and by his light I walked through darkness,

Job_29:3 LB  As when His lamp shone over my head; when by His light I walked through darkness.

Job_29:3  ὡς ὅτε ηὔγει ὁ λύχνος αὐτοῦ ὑπὲρ κεφαλῆς μου, ὅτε τῷ φωτὶ αὐτοῦ ἐπορευόμην ἐν σκότει·

 

>>Scrip:

2 Corinthians 3

 

 

 

God had been burning and flaming and consuming the fiery mountain with his blazing Glory, and He wished people would be able to Love Him enough to come be with Him, but instead He took that blazing fiery glory and stuck His burning finger into stone - so hot it could burn Rock and write the ten commandments, and now He wants to stick His flaming burning finger all up in your heart to write His law, his blazingly holy burning fiery Truth in your very nature and essence so that you come out of a prayer closet with the divinely inspired scriptures burning from your insides and your conscience and your mind consumed with the burning  preoccupation of the glory of His holiness.

 

and when you come on up out of your prayer closet and you don't live a life of Holiness it's because you didn't meet him when you turned aside to pray on your own.

 

When your life looks nothing like Him it's because you've never met Him like Isaiah did and the New Covenant does to disciples who meet the fiery God who burns his inspired scriptures on your poor being with His flaming finger

 

2Co_13:5 – examine yourself if you're in the faith

 

Have You Seen Him? - Critical Question!

1/8/24; 6/7/25; 6/12/25

 

Isa 6 saw Him indeed!

 

fiery burning holiness is what it means to see Him!

 

1Jn 3

no purity = no hope

1Jn5?

...& never seen him or known him!

 

are you really motivated by holiness?

that's what happens when/if you've really seen Him!

 

examples

·         TV, movies, music

·         Conversations

·         See wow

·         Where's some serious obedience!?

 

what Spirit are you being motivated by?

 

don't talk vanity to me about your soulish 'spiritual' gymnastics...

 

you're tongue-talking, but you are cold toward the fiery essence of Holiness of who He Is...!

 

...goofing around at the front of the church floor at the altar, but you have no perception or idea of what Holiness has anything to do with, and you're free indulging in all the nasty garbage of this polluted soulish subdivine evil dirty life!

 

the HOLY Spirit keeps you burning for, and motivated by, holiness!

 

that's who the real God and real Holy Spirit is!

 

 

Hating Sin Proves Saving Holiness

11/8/23

 

praying to the right God makes you immediately aware of sin

 

the zeal that burns in you from interacting with the right God makes you throw out the garbage...

 

reality of Truth, holiness, and the realization of the evil of this life makes you do that...

 

example: when someone dies you should be moved to kill the sin that killed your beloved one...

 

you realize how unclean your lips can be and you burn with anger against the ongoing hypocrisy of those polluting the house of God's name...

 

...

 

>>Scrip:

I hate the works of those who turn aside

I will put no evil thing before me

Works of the Nicolations Which works I also hate

>> wow

 

 

Only Clean People See God!

9/5/24

 

>>Scrip:

Isaiah 6

Rev_4:8

 

Transfiguration

John: we saw his glory

1jn: God is light

2co2 - ministry of righteousness and transforming Glory

 

>>Scrip:

the clean and heart are blessed because they will see God

without Holiness and no one will see the Lord

who will ascend the hill of the Lord

 

God's holiness will either make you holy or it will kill you

 

If you were approaching the right God and you were offering strange fire you would be falling down dead

 

Lev 10

 

 

 

Do You Seriously Love Jesus?

3/31/25; 6/7/25

 

-- Under Construction --

 

If you think so, then why do you also think you can live day after day not getting ready to see Him?

 

INSP: Getting Holy = Getting Ready to see Jesus

Holiness

>> Sync: INSP | PUR | DTA

 

 

>>Scrip: ES

Heb_12:14 – without Holiness no one will see the Lord

 

Flesh vs. Holiness

More Holy than Flesh!

[1/2/24; 1/14/24]; 2/17/25; 6/7/25

 

>> Sync: PUR > Holiness | SRP > Dessolation

 

Your Unholiness is worse than you think -- Repent of trivializing your extreme desolation!

 

-- Under Construction --

 

Research:

The Guarantee of Holiness

https://www.ccwtoday.org/2019/12/the-guarantee-of-holiness/

 

It's not that you've already heard about holiness, it's that you desperately need to finally hear it proclaimed to you.

 

That's the thing about holiness: it's special! it’s not something your flesh already knows about!

 

 

The flesh knows how to state that god is holy, but it doesn't know how to proclaim the deep and profound essence of his holiness in a way that convicts common conventional flesh of its unchecked wild and reckless unholiness, therefore you have never met the God of holiness with your uninspired flesh.

 

 

1/2/24; 1/14/24; 6/7/25

 

goof ball rolls out of bed and says g-d told him this or that

 

1Co_5:6 – your boasting isn't good

Jam_4:16 – all such boasting is evil

 

unholy flesh ball doesn't even know God!

 

>>Scrip:

Isa 6

Rev 1-2

Heb 13 & the Lord doesn't change

 

note: Isa 6 is the real God of the Bible, and know that's not just the Old Testament that's the unified Revelation of Jesus anointed one himself!

 

seeing the unity of the Scriptures is when you really understand them.

 

you don't just need to move from a disbelieving secular world view to thinking that gd is talking to you, but rather, you need to know the biblical God, and he's holy!

 

you don't know Him when you're rolling around in your flesh and indulging in your soul!

>> see: soulish

God Cares About Holiness

11/8/22-11/9/22

 

famous last words of a fool:

i don't see nothing wrong with it...

 

Danger Of Being...

 

Being Right Requires...

 

>>PUR | TOB?

 

 

Salvation of Holiness

Holiness Required for Salvation

Holiness = The Only hope of heaven!

GPT:

some of the most powerful, convicting, passionate Bible verses on holiness

Holiness isn't optional; it's a divine demand and proof of genuine faith.

It’s an ongoing pursuit, empowered by Jesus (Rom_6–8), not self-effort alone.

It sanctifies our character, aligns us to God’s will, and secures our fellowship with Him both now and eternally.

If we profess Christ but disregard holiness—we risk forfeiting both seeing God and claiming heaven. Holiness is not a fringe expectation—it is the heart of authentic Christianity, the evidence of being born again, and the gateway to eternal communion with Christ.

 

 

Heb_12:14 NKJV Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:
Heb_12:14 διώκετε εἰρήνην μετὰ πάντων καὶ τὸν ἁγιασμὸν, οὗ χωρὶς οὐδεὶς ὄψεται τὸν κύριον.

Harvest:

GotQuestions.org

1Pe_1:15-16 NKJV but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, because it is written, "Be holy, for I am holy."

Mat_5:3, Mat_5:8 – Poor & Pure in heart see God

 

PPX: Holiness Required: Heb_12:14, Mat_7:21-23, 1Jn_3:6-10, Gal_5:19-21, Eph_5:5-6

GPT: Heb_12:14; 1 Pe_1:15; Rom_6:22; 2 Co_7:1; Eph_4:24; 1 Pe_2:9; 1 Jo_3:6; Mat_7:21; Rev_20:12

GPT: Holiness Required for Heaven

High Standards of Holiness and Virtue

PPX: Holiness is explicitly required to see God.

 

Heb_12:14 NKJV Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord.

 

This is an absolute rule of required holiness for salvation that gets heaven.

“don’t be deceived” by any other nonsensical substitutions and excuses to believe something different than what it actually says about the salvation of holiness!

 

Rom_6:22 NKJV But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness, and the end, everlasting life.

 

Holiness → Heaven

This is absolutely clear and it absolutely rebukes and overrules all of the Protestant heresies of Faith Alone.

[GPT: Holiness leads straight to eternal life]

 

 

 

General Reminders

[do the Father’s will = walking in holiness]

Mat_7:21 NKJV Not everyone who says to Me, “Lord, Lord,” shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

Rev_20:12 NKJV And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened… And the dead were judged according to their works.

 

 

Holiness = Knowing God!

GPT: awe-inspiring, fearsome, and worship-filled verses that proclaim God’s own holiness, often accompanied by trembling, awe, or glory

 

Holiness Relates to the REAL God

 

Hos_11:9 NKJV For I am God, and not man, The Holy One in your midst; And I will not come with terror.

 

2Co_7:1 NKJV Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

>> Sync: PUR | SRP

 

 

Fearing God is at the core of relating to Him, and we see that holiness is the essential foundation to coming before God with fear and reverence to truly connect to Him in a saving way that He recognizes and blesses.

 

Lev_19:2 NKJV “Speak to all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say to them: ‘You shall be holy, for I the Lord your God am holy.’”

 

1Pe_1:15 NKJV But as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct.

1Pe_1:16 NKJV Because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.”

[GPT: sacred privilege and responsibility (holy nation, royal priesthood)]

 

Jer_2:2 WEB  Go, and cry in the ears of Jerusalem, saying, Thus says Yahweh, I remember for you the kindness of your youth, the love of your weddings; how you went after me in the wilderness, in a land that was not sown.

Jer_2:2 I remember the kindness of your youth, and the love of your betrothal,

Jer_2:2  Καὶ εἶπεν Τάδε λέγει κύριος Ἐμνήσθην ἐλέους νεότητός σου καὶ ἀγάπης τελειώσεώς σου τοῦ ἐξακολουθῆσαί σε τῷ ἁγίῳ Ισραηλ, λέγει κύριος

Jer_2:3 WEB  Israel was holiness to Yahweh, the first fruits of his increase: all who devour him shall be held guilty; evil shall come on them, says Yahweh.

Jer_2:3 in following the Holy One of Israel,” says the Lord. “Israel was holiness unto the Lord, and the firstfruits of His increase. All that devoured him shall offend; evils shall come upon them,” says the Lord.

Jer_2:3  ἅγιος Ισραηλ. τῷ κυρίῳ ἀρχὴ γενημάτων αὐτοῦ· πάντες οἱ ἔσθοντες αὐτὸν πλημμελήσουσιν, κακὰ ἥξει ἐπ᾿ αὐτούς, φησὶν κύριος.

 

Eph_4:24 NKJV And that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.

>> Sync: Multiple references Herein

 

Comp. Pro_30:12-14 – generation pure in their own eyes

 

1Pe_2:9 NKJV But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people…

 

No hypocrisy allowed!

 

Moses’ Good Confessions

Exo_15:11 NKJV Who is like You, O Lord, among the gods? Who is like You, glorious in holiness, Fearful in praises, doing wonders?

 

Moses recognized who God was on Earth; other Bible passages reaffirm that this is who God really is in heaven!

 

>>Scrip:

I exceedingly fear and tremble

Exo_3: – Moses hasten to bow to the ground

>>TSK

 

 

Psa_22:3 NKJV But You are holy, Enthroned in the praises of Israel.

 

Psa_99:3 NKJV Let them praise Your great and awesome name—He is holy.

Psa_99:5 NKJV Exalt the Lord our God, And worship at His footstool—He is holy.

..

Psa_99:9 NKJV Exalt the Lord our God, And worship at His holy hill; For the Lord our God is holy.

 [GPT: His name and presence are terrifying in holiness]

 

1Sa_2:2 NKJV No one is holy like the Lord, For there is none besides You, Nor is there any rock like our God.

 

Rev_15:4 NKJV Who shall not fear You, O Lord, and glorify Your name? For You alone are holy. For all nations shall come and worship before You…

 [GPT: He alone is pure, exalted, unapproachable, and fearfully majestic (Rev_15:4; Hos_11:9).]

 

 

Heavenly Visions

Isa_6:3 NKJV And one cried to another and said: “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts; The whole earth is full of His glory!”

 

Rev_4:8 NKJV And they do not rest day or night, saying: “Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, Who was and is and is to come!”

 

[GPT: God's holiness is proclaimed eternally]

 

 

Holy Purity Is Required

 

>>Scrip:

1ti2 - saved minded holy purity

1ti_5:1-2 - younger women as sisters with all holy purity

2ti 2 - purifying yourself and fleeing youthful lusts so that you will be a useful container in His hands

 

 

Exodus_34:10 - Bigger Than Moses’ Other Miracles

It is time for you to get holy so you can get all up in the end times greatness of mega miracles that are about to explode publicly upon the earth when he saves a people yet still for himself and find the reveals who the real God is

 

monotheistic Holiness is about separation and its glorious resulting cleanness:

~9/17/21-9/22/21

 

Isaiah_48:20

Jeremiah_50:8

Jeremiah_51:6

Jeremiah_51:45

Zachariah_2:6

2 Corinthians_6:17

Revelation_18:4

 

….

 

The Joking JC in Our Own Image

>> PUR | SPI | JBS

10/24/23

 

"All this seems to me that Jesus would have been laughing and smiling over pretty much the same things we all do. And for inappropriate comments, I’ve little doubt He would have artfully distracted them with some other humorous statement."

https://www.quora.com/Was-Jesus-laughing-when-he-said-You-strain-out-a-gnat-but-swallow-a-camel-Matthew-23-24-And-what-exactly-was-he-saying-to-the-Pharisees

 

this is not just an embarrassment to churchianity and all of christianism, but this is actually also an embarrassment to the human race, that humans can be so foolish and mindless absurd and ridiculous, and are no better than the animals as the scripture says

>>Scrip:

 

Executed for Unholiness

 

God is giving church people the death penalty for boldly going about and confidently celebrating their privileges and the sin-defiled pleasures of this life without holiness!

 

Lev_10:1 NKJV Then Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, each took his censer and put fire in it, put incense on it, and offered profane fire before the Lord, which He had not commanded them.

Lev_10:2 NKJV So fire went out from the Lord and devoured them, and they died before the Lord.

Lev_10:3 NKJV And Moses said to Aaron, “This is what the Lord spoke, saying: ‘By those who come near Me I must be regarded as holy; And before all the people I must be glorified.’” So Aaron held his peace.

[GPT: God must be approached on His terms, not man’s. Even “leaders” and “priests” are not exempt. His holiness demands reverence, not creativity or enthusiasm {or self-expression!} that disregards His command.]

 

>>Scrip:

Think: the Lord’s prayer

10 Commandments: Name not taken in vain!

>>TSK!

you profaned my name among the nations

 

Ark

 

Jos_3:4 WEB  Yet there shall be a space between you and it, about two thousand cubits by measure. Don't come near to it, that you may know the way by which you must go; for you have not passed this way before."

Jos_3:4 LB  But let there be a distance between you and it; you shall stand as much as two thousand cubits from it. Do not draw near to it, that you may know the way which you are to go; for you have not gone the way before.”

Jos_3:4  ἀλλὰ μακρὰν ἔστω ἀνὰ μέσον ὑμῶν καὶ ἐκείνης ὅσον δισχιλίους πήχεις· στήσεσθε, μὴ προσεγγίσητε αὐτῇ, ἵν᾿ ἐπίστησθε τὴν ὁδόν, ἣν πορεύεσθε αὐτήν· οὐ γὰρ πεπόρευσθε τὴν ὁδὸν ἀπ᾿ ἐχθὲς καὶ τρίτης ἡμέρας.

>> Sync: PUR | ROW

 

2Sa_6:6 NKJV And when they came to Nachon’s threshing floor, Uzzah put out his hand to the ark of God and took hold of it, for the oxen stumbled.

2Sa_6:7 NKJV Then the anger of the Lord was aroused against Uzzah, and God struck him there for his error; and he died there by the ark of God.

1Ch_15:13 NKJV For because you did not do it the first time, the Lord our God broke out against us, because we did not consult Him about the proper order.

[GPT: Even good intentions cannot override God's holy protocols. Uzzah died because he touched holy things presumptuously—God had given clear instructions that only Levites were to carry the ark on poles, not on a cart (see Exo_25:14; Num_4:15).]

[GPT: Holiness is not optional. It is lethal to treat God's presence with irreverence.

Even leaders and insiders (like Nadab, Abihu, and Uzzah) are held to the highest standard.

God must be sanctified and glorified in all those who draw near Him (Lev_10:3).

Ignorance or innovation in spiritual matters is no excuse when God's word has already spoken.]

Even good interventions must obey holiness protocols

These tragic episodes occurred across covenants— from Moses and Aaron to the early church.

God’s holiness demands awe, obedience, and reverence in worship, leadership, and church life.

Even minor disobedience towards holiness can provoke serious, sometimes immediate, judgment.

 

Rebellious Lie: All the congregations is holy, every one!

Result:

Num_16:31 NKJV Then it came to pass, as he finished speaking all these words, that the ground split apart under them… and they went down alive into the grave with all those associated with them.

[God preserves His holiness by judging rebellion among His leadership.]

 

Josh_7:1 NKJV But the children of Israel committed a trespass… by taking some of the accursed things; and the anger of the Lord burned against the children of Israel.

→ Key lesson: Hidden sin brings corporate consequences and Divine judgment.

Josh_7:24 NKJV Then Joshua… said, “Why have you troubled us? The Lord will trouble you this day.” So all Israel stoned them… and they burned them with fire.

 

Act_5:3 NKJV Then Pe_ said, “Ananias… why have you lied to the Holy Spirit…?”

Act_5:5 NKJV And Ananias… fell down and died.

Act_5:9 NKJV Peter said to her… “How is it that you have agreed together to test the Spirit of the Lord?” She fell down dead.

→ Key lesson: Even in the New Covenant, deceit toward the Spirit incurs fatal judgment

Act_12:21–23 NKJV And … the people shouted, “It is the voice of a god and not of a man.” Immediately an angel struck him… eaten by worms and died.

Other Examples

Moses barred from Canaan: Num_20:12—struck rock instead of speaking; dishonored God forbidden entry.

Gehazi’s leprosy: 2Ki_5:26–27—greed for reward leprous, forever.

Elijah’s bears: 2Ki_2:23–24—mocking godly authority 42 youths mauled.

Elijah calling fire: 2Ki_1:10–12—sending fire at king’s soldiers consumed by fire.

 

Hard-hearted unbelief leaves you unresolvably despairing against God’s holiness!

 

Num_17:12-13 KJV …Behold, we die *, we perish, we all perish… shall we be consumed with dying *? [WEB: shall we perish all of us?]

[* expire/suffocate]

>> Sync: PUR | INSP

 

 

 

Not Knowing God = Hell

[GPT: some of the most serious, fearful, and essential verses about not being saved because a person does not know God—even if they claim religious affiliation. These verses highlight that salvation depends on personally knowing God and being known by Him, not merely outward religion.]

 

Joh_17:3 NKJV And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

 [Eternal life is knowing God personally—not just about Him.]

 

 

1Jo_3:6 NKJV Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.

 

This is not just some sort of a subjective personal confirmation of one’s own philosophical assurance, but rather, this is hard reality of concrete proof that every human with a working logical brain is responsible for acknowledging and submitting to, and it morally demands for us to be brokenhearted with bowed heads, under the convicting-convincing light of truth proclaimed by the holiness of the no-sinning requirements demanded from us.

 

2Th_1:8 NKJV in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

[GPT: God punishes both ignorance of Him and disobedience to the gospel.]

 

Mat_7:21 NKJV Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.

Mat_7:22 NKJV Many will say to Me in that day, “Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name…?”

Mat_7:23 NKJV And then I will declare to them, “I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!”

 

Mat_25:11 NKJV Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, Lord, open to us!’

Mat_25:12 NKJV But he answered and said, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.’

 [A lack of readiness and relationship leaves people shut out—even if they look religious from the outside.]

 

 

It doesn't matter if you claim to know God; it matters if He says he knows you!

You’re unholy professions of faith are worth absolutely nothing! -- except fiery judgement that will devour the adversaries

and we've already seen what the Bible says about God's demands for Holiness before he will ever tolerate it being insinuated that you know anything about who he really is!

 

>>Scrip:

Not the one who commend himself

fiery judgement that will devour the adversaries

claiming to be free but bondservants of corruption

 

Tit_1:16 NKJV They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.

 [True knowledge of God must result in obedience and godliness.]

 

2Pe_2:1 NKJV But there were also false prophets… who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction.

 [People who claim religion but deny Christ's Lordship are under condemnation.]

 

More Holiness Required

11/25/24; 6/7/25

>> Sync: PUR > Holiness | LOW | SPI

 

Chastised confidence that required reverence to return back to jealous favor

 

Examples of people who were chastised despite their divine favor

·         Joshua

·         Samson

·         David

 

 

Song of Solomon -- Overview

Other date(s); 5/2/25-5/3/25

 

Song_2:4 - wife as beautiful as an army?

How is a woman beautiful like an army?

How is an army beautiful?

 

WEB is saying an army with banners, which could refer to her clothes as making her “all dressed up” like the uniforms of armies, and Greek is saying as arranged which could refer to her preparing herself to be seen in public with ornate and Royal clothing

 

Song_2:5 - eyes overcoming is good in marriage but illegal and prohibited outside of marriage

 

Song 4 & song_2:5:

 

Hair appears up again from Gilead?

 

If hair appears from Gilead that would imply that it was previously hidden by Gilead, which very easily fits the cultural context of the head covering that afterward reveals the hair and the event of a close encounter of the romantic kind

 

This does not mean she does not have a head covering

 

all it takes today for an apostate to congratulate themselves is one perceived opportunity of vulnerability where the scriptures can be fragmented and molested from their heretical attacks, yet obviously that wouldn't make sense in light of the rest of the Bible or of the rest of History throughout the whole world regarding women...

 

a Bible disobeyer is typically going to say that 'he's seeing her hair therefore she doesn't have a head covering, so we don't need a head covering either', whereas a Bible obeyer is going to say her hair is appearing therefore it was previously hidden, so we need to "go and do likewise"

 

Song_6:6 - teeth are seen

Song_6:7- temples behind your veil

 

How does he see her teeth?

 

It must be some kind of close encounter of the romantic kind.

 

 

If he is considered pertaining to her flesh and owning her body, she could be temporarily letting down her veil in this close encounter of the romantic kind

 

furthermore, it is saying that her teeth are like animals which come up from the washing which means they are in a certain movement that is coming into view after having been washed which is similar to the hair which came into being seen from Gilead, therefore what we're seeing here is an appearance of hair that was previously not apparent and similarly the teeth are described as herds that are coming up from the washing which would imply they also were not previously being seen (edited)

10:13 AM

by the time we get to song_6:7 we have seen that hair became apparent from behind her Gilead head covering, her teeth became apparent after coming up from the washing, and then also her temples are like a piece of pomegranate coming up from behind her face veil. if we construe this inconsistently then we have a case for Bible disobedience by ignoring logic, however if we understand this consistently then the whole Bible makes sense and we can obey it and be righteous so we need to seriously decide which direction we want to go.

 

>>Scrip:

Choose this day whom you will serve

 

PUR

SONG_6:12 - romance does stuff to you without you even knowing it

 

Song of Solomon -- Summaries

Other date(s); 5/3/25 (recompiled)

 

SoS Sections

 

Son_1:2-17Son_2:1-7 – The Banquet

 

Son_2:8-17 – The Beloved's Request

 

Son_3:1-5 – A Troubled Night

 

Son_3:6-11Son_4:1-16Son_5:1-16Son_6:1-3 – The Coming of Solomon

 

Son_6:4-13 – Praise of the Shumlamite's Beauty

 

Son_7:1-13Son_8:1-14 – Expressions of Praise

 

SoS Summary

Incl. ‘Who’s Talking?’ -- as Originally Compiled from NKJV, NIV, & More, then enhanced for Excellence

 

DoJ = Daughters of Jerusalem

 

Son_1:1 - Title

 

Son_1:2-17Son_2:1-7 – The Banquet

Son_1:2-4 – The Shulamite

Son_1:2your MS

MT uses this “love” as sexual love: Eze_16:8 (MT); Pro_7:18; Eze_23:17

Used again in: Son_1:2; Son_1:4; Son_1:13; Son_1:14; Son_1:16; Son_2:3; Son_2:8; Son_2:9; Son_2:10; Son_2:16; Son_2:17; Son_4:10; Son_4:16; Son_5:1 (NKJV: says comp this verse); Son_5:2; Son_5:4; Son_5:5; Son_5:6; Son_5:8; Son_5:9; Son_5:10; Son_5:16; Son_6:1; Son_6:2; Son_6:3; Son_7:9; Son_7:10; Son_7:11; Son_7:12; Son_7:13; Son_8:5; Son_8:14;

 

Son_1:3 – love = same as: Son_1:4: rightly do they love you…; Gen_24:67 / Deu_6:5 (NKJV: partly like agape in Gr?)

 

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Son_1:4Shulamith and the Daughters of Jerusalem (in responsive song)

 

Son_1:4 (a) – MT: The Shulamite: Draw me... / LXX: they have drawn you...

Son_1:4 WEB Take me away with you. / Son_1:4 CAB They have drawn you:

 

Son_1:4 (b) – DoJ: MT: Let us hurry / LXX: We will run after you...

Let us hurry. / we will run after you MS, for the smell of your ointments:

 

Son_1:4 (c) – The Shulamite:

The king has brought me into his chambers. / the king has brought me into his closet:

 

Son_1:4 (d) – DoJ:

Friends We will be glad and rejoice in you FS. We will praise your MS love more than wine! Beloved They are right to love you MS. [same love as: Son_1:3]

 

let us rejoice and be glad in you; we will love your breasts more than wine: righteousness loves you.

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Son_1:4 (e) – The Shulamite:

 

Son_1:4-7 – The Shulamite

Son_1:7 – (To her beloved)

NKJV: LXX, Syriac & Vul: wanderers

LXX, really??

 

Son_1:8-10 – The Beloved

 

>>??

Son_1:10dear friend?

Son_1:11 – DoJ: We will make you FS

MT: ...Time [season] of singing…; LXX: καιρος; Br: Pruning

 

Son_1:12-14 – The Shulamite

Son_1:13-14 – sexual love

 

Son_1:13 – All night: <<Gr>> (no strong num.) from <<Gr>> G835, to lodge for the night, that is, stay somewhere all night, Mat_21:17 (See: Gr); Luk_21:37

 

Son_1:15 – The Beloved

Gr: Neighbor

 

Son_1:16-17Son_2:1 – The Shulamite

 

Son_2:2 – The Beloved

Son_2:3 – The Shulamite

NKJV: “The apple tree and the raisin cakes (v. 5) are symbols for sexual passion in ancient love songs” (p. 1101)

 

Son_7:6-8

 

Wine & Banner

Son_2:4-7 – The Shulamite to DoJ

Son_2:4 – See: Psa_104:15 – the joy of wine

Banner H1714 Num_1:52

Love = ἀγάπην.

 

Son_2:8-17 – The Beloved's Request

Son_2:8-14 – The Shulamite

Son_2:14 – See: 2Sa_12:1

Son_2:15 – Her Brothers

Son_2:15-17 – Fix the things that hurt, tender emotions, lest simple and pure trust be defiled with contempt from that hurt. Spoiling is not an option. Perfect favor must be maintained: Son_2:16 & Son_2:17

 

Son_2:16-17 – The Shulamite

Son_2:17 – (To her beloved)

NKJV: upon the mountains of bether [lit: separation]

 

Son_3:1-11 – The Shulamite: all of chapter 3...

>> how to organize this...

 

Son_3:11 – JS: crown: not as 1Ki_1:1; 1Ch_23:11

 

Son_3:1-5A Troubled Night

Son_3:1-5 – The Shulamite

 

Son_3:6-11Son_4:1-16Son_5:1The Coming of Solomon

Son_3:6-11 – The Shulamite

Son_3:9 – NKJV: made himself a palanquin [a portable enclosed chair]

 

Son_4:1-15 – The Beloved

Son_4:8 – sightseeing by yourself is usually a wretched and vain evil, and it is eternally redeemed when done with a companion given by God.

 

Son_4:10 – NKJV: erotic love

Psa_104:15

Num_1:52

Sexual love: Eze_16:8; Pro_7:18; Eze_23:17

 

Son_4:16 – The Shulamite

 

Son_5:1 – The Beloved

Son_5:1 b – (to his friends)

 

Son_5:2-16Son_6:1-3The Shulamite's Troubled Evening

Son_5:2-8 – The Shulamite

 

Son_5:2, etc. Spiritually: Luk_12:35-40 vs. Mat_25:5-7

Son_5:3 – Does Jesus defile you? Mat_11:6 blessed is he who is not offended on account of me…

 

Son_5:6 – my heart leaped

my heart leaped – but obedience was partly asleep! (Son_5:2)

>>Scrip:

your desire will be for your husband

 

Son_5:9 – DoJ

Son_5:10-16 – The Shulamite

 

Notice her tenacity which refuses to have a faith crash from romance, even when he has withdrawn!

 

Son_5:10 – yes, indeed, he is white… Especially where he is usually wearing clothing!

Son_5:14-15 – only a wife should know these details first hand…

 

Son_6:1 – DoJ

Son_6:1

Where has he gone?

He has withdrawn to promote the love that was delayed (by delayed obedience).

Where is it? What is he doing?

He is storing up personal romance or her, daydreaming about her even when away!

 

Son_6:2-3 – The Shulamite

Son_6:12 – NKJV: as the chariots of my noble people [heb: ammi nadib – ?]

 

Son_6:4-13Praise of the Shumlamite's Beauty

Son_6:4-10 – The Beloved

Son_6:11-12 – The Shulamite

Son_6:12 – before I knew…

Don’t be a fool and say, I can handle it…

In the bad sense, this is like the trickiness of pride…

 

Pro_30:18-20

 

In the good sense...

 

Son_6:12You got to be pretty wise for your heart to trick you into good!

 

Son_6:13 a – The Beloved and His Friends

Son_6:13 b – The Shulamite

 

Son_7:1-13Son_8:1-4 – Expressions of Praise

Son_7:1-9 a – The Beloved

 

Son_7:5 – being tide up is Biblical

 

Son_7:9-13Son_8:1-4 ?? – The Shulamite

(9 b)

 

Son_7:9 (a) – NKJV/MT: The Beloved: Your mouth like the best wine

Son_7:9 (b) – The Shulamite: that goes down smoothly for my beloved, gliding through the lips of those who are asleep

 

Son_7:9 – NKJV: moving the lips of sleepers [LXX, Syr, Vol: Lips and teeth]

>> LXX???

 

Son_7:10Gen_3:16

 

 

Son_7:12 – SoS Teaches: sex in the morning, sex in the evening, sex all the time…

 

Son_8:1-3 – kiss…fruit…embrace √

 

Son_8:3-4 – to DoJ -- The Shulamite?

 

Son_8:5-14Love Renewed in Lebanon

Son_8:5 – A Relative

Son_8:6-7 – The Shulamite to her Beloved

Son_8:6 – a flame of Yah [NKJV: a poetic form of YHWH]

 

Deu_32:21-22

 

Son_8:8-9 – The Shulamite's Brothers

Son_8:10-12 (not to 11?) – The Shulamite

Son_8:12 – (to Solomon)

Son_8:13 – The Beloved

Son_8:14 – The Shulamite

 

  

Categorical Breakdown of Song of Songs

Here is a break-down of all the references in Song of Songs that give insight into the Biblical Dress Code.

 

The Head -- Song of Songs

1:10-11 Ornaments, cheeks, neck

1:15 Doves eyes

2:14 Face: desire, “attractive”

4:1-4 Eyes, veil, teeth, lips, scarlet, attractive mouth, temples, locks of hair, neck

4:9 Ravished by just one eye in marriage (Compare the “shamefacedness” of 1Ti_2:9 toward non-spouses)

5:7 Veil (worn in public)

5:11-13 His wavy black locks, eyes, cheeks, lips

6:5 Overcoming eyes… hair

6:6 Teeth as sheep

6:7 Temples behind a veil

7:4 Neck, eyes, nose

7:5 Head, hair

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Lips” and “Kissing -- in Song of Songs

1:2 Kissing better than wine

4:2-3 Teeth, lips, scarlet, temples, attractive mouth (see above)

4:11 Honey, milk, tongue

5:13 His cheeks, lips

5:16 His sweet mouth, lovely

7:9 Kissing, roof of the mouth, lips > These things are for “Sleepers

8:1-4, 6-7 Only kiss spouse or relatives:

 

By verse…

(1) Between men and women, ONLY kissing a relative is acceptable in public because otherwise, (2) It stirs up humans for sex*; (3) This means physical romantic affection; (4) So don’t wake it up before marriage, because “Love is as strong as death” (v. 6-7)

 

* 8:2 It stirs up humans for sex

“I would lead you… into the house… I would cause you to drink of spiced wine…the juice of my pomegranate”; compare Son_4:11c-14 below

- Notice it says “spiced wine,” or “sexual arousal” happens in kissing.

- Do you see where she is taking him, and why?

- “the juice of my pomegranate” does not mean they are getting together to drink fruit juice!

 

Song of Songs on The Chest area: “Myrrh-bag,” Mountain(s), Pomegranate(s), Milk, Various Fruits, Clusters, (Spices implicitly)

1:13 All night embrace (i.e. compared to the small Myrrh-bag “necklace” of perfume worn by women all night)

4:5-6 Two breasts like two fawns, twins of a gazelle, mountain of myrrh*, hill of frankincense (* i.e. a reference to the Myrrh-bag)

4:11c-14 Using cloths* to be “Enclosed…shut up…sealed…plants, orchard of pomegranates, pleasant fruits, fragrant henna, spikenard, saffron, calamus, cinnamon, frankincense, myrrh, aloes, with all the best spices…” (i.e. the “necklace” Myrrh-bag of spice)

\/ [*Cloths: v. 11: “garments…like the fragrance of Lebanon” v. 12: “A garden enclosed…”]

5:1 This sexual experience involved “myrrh,” spice, honey, and wine with “milk” (see_4:13)

7:2 Naval & waist

7:3 Two breasts like two fawns, twins of gazelle

7:7-8 Two breasts like clusters of palm tree

8:8-10 Sexually mature breasts needed for marriage,

8:9 Build protection upon/ make “…enclosed”! (also compare Son_4:12 below)

8:10 She accepts protection of brothers > Gen_24:50, 55; 34:6-8

8:14 “Mountains of spices

 

Note: If something is “all hanging out,” or even showing, it is NOT “enclosed!”

 

Thigh -- in Song of Songs 

5:14 His body (only she should know what it looks like)

5:15 His (whole) leg

7:1 The Curves of Thighs are sexual (from the feet up [v. 1-9], notably skipping the calf to the more sexual part of the leg)

 

General Dress -- in Song of Songs

4:7 General attraction, no spot in you

4:9 Jewelry for arousal

4:12 “Enclosed…shut up…sealed” modesty and chastity, a complete virgin in every way

5:3 She wears a robe, Feet washed

5:5 Hands dripped with myrrh
5:14 His hands… and then body (only she should know what it looks like)

6:12 Before I was even aware (this is the way attraction works, so you can’t trust yourself to know what is right)

7:1 Beautiful Feet

7:4 Nose like a tower? (That’s not our cultural way of complementing a woman)

7:13 Laid up for you

8:6-7 Love as strong as death

 

Perfumes for Arousal -- in Song of Songs

1:3-4, 12 Fond “attractive” reputation, drawing, makes a “chick-magnet,” (only Biblical for the OT, & NOT the NT)

3:6 General admiration, perfum, myrrh, frankincense, merchant powder

4:6 …mountain of myrrh, hill of frankincense

4:10-11 perfumes… all spices, fragrance of garments

4:13-14, 16 Chest as "fragrant henna," spikenard, saffron, calamus, cinnamon, frankincense, myrrh, aloes, with all the best spices

5:1 Myrrh, spices

5:13 His cheeks like spices

6:2-3 Her body ["(2)his garden...(3) I am my beloved's"] "to the beds of spices"

7:13 Mandrakes… fragrance

8:14 Mountains of spices

 

Romance is Like Wine -- Song of Songs says

1:2, 4c His love better than wine…His love more than wine

2:4-5Banqueting House” [that is, where you drink wine… and the result?] “Love Sick” (compare Son_5:8 below)

4:9-10 ravished heart…Her love better than wine

5:1, 8 He drank it as wine with milk… Love Sick

7:5, 9, 12 Held captive by it, roof of mouth like wine (v.12 associated with grapes)

8:2, 6-7 Her love like spiced wine, Love as potent as death

 

Soul Tie Comparisons

Gen_34:8 Shechem’s soul-tie with Dinah from fornication

Jdg_16:4-21 The fall of Samson

 

General Themes in Song of Songs

Marriage Son_1:12; 3:7-11 (from couch to crowning)

Foxes Son_2:15

All night Son_1:15; 2:16-17; 4:6

Body Break-Down: Hers Son_4:1-7; His Son_5:10-16; Hers Son_7:1-10

Ravished with just one eye: 4:9 (‘turn away… overcome’ 6:5)

“Perfect”: 4:7; 6:9

6:12 Before I was even aware

 

 

Old

Remarriage is Adultery:

Mat_5:27-32; [Mat_5:32]

Mat_19:3-10; [Mat_19:9]

Mar_10:2-12; [Mar_10:11]; Luk_16:16-18; Rom_7:2-3; 1Co_7:3; 1Co_7:10-11; 1Co_7:39;

Exo_21:1-11; Lev_19:20; Deu_21:10-14 (15-17); Deu_22:13; Deu_23:12-14; Deu_24:1-4 (Sus: Dan_13:63); Eze_16:1; Eze_23:1

http://biblia.com/bible/nrsv/Sir

http://biblia.com/bible/nrsv/Sus

 

Son_8:6 a – NKJV: jealousy as cool as the grave [or sheol]

 

 

 

 

Shamefacedness

Other dates (~2003-2008); 7/31/16

>> TSK and many other searches are needed…..

>> Isea 3

>> Men to God as women to men

>> Hebrew: shame = stare down / see a man

>> pro: staring eyes

 

1Ti_2:9 KJV-Based In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacednessG127 and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array…

 

A. Greek

 

G127 αἰδώς aidōs ahee-doce'● Perhaps from G1 (as a negative particle) and G1492 (through the idea of downcast eyes); bashfulness, that is, (towards men), modesty or (towards God) awe: - reverence, shamefacedness. (Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries)

…modesty, bashfulness, reverence, regard for others, respect (Thayer’s Greek Definitions)

 

B. Cultural Significance

 

“Shamefacedness” is God’s version of what newer translations often merely translate as “propriety.”  But this verse strongly includes being modest with one’s eyes!

     A woman having “downcast eyes” was and is in many places recognized an issue of modesty; It means that they are not being flirtatious.  It is interesting that the Bible approves of, and commands this cultural attitude to be practiced. 

Granted: We are in a different culture.  But modesty never changes, and there is an invaluable chase, non-flirtatious attitude that should and must be harvested from this verse, especially in light of the fact that we are in great deficit of this virtue in our sensually charged society.  Our culture has discipled us to proudly and hastily embrace lustful attitudes toward each other as much as possible.  If we keep this verse, then we do good to make blatant strikes against the foolish love of lust so championed in this perverse age.

 

Shamefacedness really helps explain the following passage…

 

Joh_20:14-16 CAB  And having said these things, she turned back and saw Jesus standing there, and did not know that it was Jesus.  15  Jesus said to her, "Woman, why are you weeping? Whom do you seek?" She, supposing Him to be the gardener, said to Him, "Sir, if You carried Him away, tell me where You put Him, and I will take Him away."  16  Jesus said to her, "Mary!" She turned and said to Him, "Rabboni!" (which means, Teacher).

 

Psa_131:1 WEB  Yahweh, my heart isn't haughty, nor my eyes lofty; nor do I concern myself with great matters, or things too wonderful for me.

Psa_131:1 LB A Song of Degrees. O Lord, my heart is not exalted, neither have my eyes been haughtily raised: neither have I exercised myself in great matters, nor in things too wonderful for me.

Psa_131:1  (130:1) Ὠιδὴ τῶν ἀναβαθμῶν· τῷ Δαυιδ. Κύριε, οὐχ ὑψώθη μου ἡ καρδία, οὐδὲ ἐμετεωρίσθησαν οἱ ὀφθαλμοί μου, οὐδὲ ἐπορεύθην ἐν μεγάλοις οὐδὲ ἐν θαυμασίοις ὑπὲρ ἐμέ.

 

Lifted Eyes are good when there is adoration going on.

See: PrayerL

But things that are beyond your virtue,

 

 

Critical Considerations

 

If you do not even look, how can you get visually romantic or temp people with your eyes?

 

 

Flirting Eyes & Bald Scalps:

 

Isa_3:16-24  Moreover the Lord said, "Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, And walk with outstretched necks and flirting eyes, Walking to trip as they go, Jingling ornaments on their feet;  17  Therefore the Lord brings sores on the crown of the head of the women of Zion, And the Lord will make their scalps bald." 18  In that day the Lord will take away the beauty of their anklets, the headbands, the crescent necklaces, 19  the earrings, the bracelets, the veils, 20  the headdresses, the ankle chains, the sashes, the perfume bottles, the charms, 21  the signet rings, the nose rings, 22  the fine robes, the capes, the cloaks, the purses, 23  the hand-mirrors, the fine linen garments, the hoods, and the shawls. 24  It shall happen that instead of sweet spices, there shall be rottenness; Instead of a belt, a rope; Instead of well set hair, baldness; Instead of a robe, a girding of sackcloth; And branding instead of beauty. (WEB-Based)

 

“Flirting Eyes” Definitions:

 

i.                     Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries  H8265 שׂקר  śâqar  saw-kar'

A primitive root; to ogle, that is, blink coquettishly: - wanton.

ii.                 Brown-Driver-Briggs’ Hebrew Definitions H8265 שׂקר  śâqar 1) (Piel)

to ogle, be wanton 1a) ogling (participle)

iii.               Other Research “…עינים וּמשׁקרות  ûmeshaqerôth ‛ēynāyı̂m. The word שׁקר  shâqar usually means “to lie, to deceive,” and may here refer to the art of alluring by a wanton or fascinating glance of the eye.”

 

The Hebrew word seems to have a hint of painted eyes, or winking eyes.

 

The Direction of Sin

 

We may ask: “Why does He punish them if there is no official sin, (such as “fornication,” or “adultery” etc.)” But… ò

 

ð Why go in the direction of fornication by kissing before you are married?

 

Walking in Wantonness

 

Rom_13:13-14 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.  14  But [you all] put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill its lusts. (KJV-Based, Also: 1Pet4:1-5)

 

ð How different this is from the way that we date! How many times (in dating) do we “make provision” so that the devil can tempt us and draw us in by the flesh?  So many unwittingly prepare themselves for a “noose” and a “dart” by getting alone with a guy or girl that they like.  Practically they are saying, “Hay devil, I’ve ‘prepared a place for you’ to come and get me to do something wrong.”

 

More Examples of Eyes and Lust From Proverbs

These verses describe the end of this direction of sin

 

Pro_5:3 WEB For the lips of an adulteress drip honey. Her mouth is smoother than oil,  4  But in the end she is as bitter as wormwood, And as sharp as a two-edged sword.  5  Her feet go down to death. Her steps lead straight to Sheol [“Hell”]8 Remove your way far from her. Don't come near the door of her house,  9  Lest… You… groan at your latter end, When your flesh and your body are consumed…

 

(Also read all of verses 3-23!)

 

Pro_6:25 WEB Don't lust after her beauty in your heart, Neither let her captivate you with her eyelids.  26  For a prostitute reduces you to a piece of bread. The adulteress hunts for your precious life.  27  Can a man scoop fire into his lap, And his clothes not be burned?

 

(Also read verses 23-35).            

 

Pro_7:13 WEB So she caught him, and kissed him…   21 With persuasive words, she led him astray. With the flattering of her lips, she seduced him.  22  He followed her immediately, As an ox goes to the slaughter, As a fool stepping into a noose.  23  Until an arrow strikes through his liver, As a bird hurries to the snare, And doesn't know that it will cost his life…  25  Don't let your heart turn to her ways. Don't go astray in her paths…

 

(Also read verses 13-27)

 

ð If you give in to the lust described here, you are not just guilty upon committing fornication or adultery, but you start being guilty as soon as you start going in that direction!  The guilt starts when you don’t, “Remove your way far from her…” and you “come near the door of her house,” (5:8).  No one steps “into a noose” (v. 22 b) or has ‘an arrow strike through his liver’ (v. 23) without first going “astray in her paths,” (v. 25).

 

ð When Jesus was preaching “The Sermon On The Mount” He does not say, “Lust = Physically Committing Adultery,” but that lust is in fact the real starting pointof adultery and not just the physical act.

 

In the same way, we are guilty of sin before we actually commit and fulfill it in the flesh.  As it has been said, ‘it is almost impossible to sin in the flesh without first sinning in the heart’

 

As Sisters

 

1Ti_5:1-2 Don't rebuke an older man, but exhort him as a father; the younger men as brothers; 2  the elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity. (KJV-Based)

 

A.      So may say that they believe this scripture, but so so few will Truly practice it!!

B.      If you kiss your sister on the lips, then (in most of all cases) you’re sick.  If you would never do so to your sister, then neither should you do so to any other girl/guy with whom you are not married.

C.   Do you do these things with your sister (or brother):

-Hold hands, -Kiss, -Look her/him romantically in the eyes, -Spend time with her/him in such a way as to stir up and entertain romantic feelings for each other,  –etc.?

 

 

 

Joseph and Mary

 

Do you think the way we do dating is OK before God? Joseph and Mary didn’t even hang out enough for her to tell him that she was pregnant!  We can know that this is true…

 

Culturally

 

Because the Jewish betrothal mindset disallowed dating and the like.  This “No flirting/dating” attitude is still in affect in parts of the world today.  With Jews, the man would “go away and prepare a place” (Jn 14:2-3) for her.  Jesus used this language directly alluding to their typical practice of marriage in their culture.  This is all hugely complicated and has tones of Biblical references not cited here.

 

Contextually

 

Because Biblically, believing a True testimony (especially about God and His supernatural interactions) is an issue of righteousness, (Jn 8:42-47, -especially the last 2 verses, *Jn 16:9).  Because of this Joseph could not have righteously disbelieved Mary’s True testimony that God gave her.  –This shows that they did not have regular communication, in that Joseph heard from “the grape vine” long before he had a chance to hear from her, and had already set himself to divorce her.

 

Mat_1:18 …Mary, was engaged to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found pregnant by the Holy Spirit. 19  Joseph, her husband, being a righteous man, and not willing to make her a public example, intended to divorce her secretly, (WEB-Based).

 

ð It would not be righteous for him to divorce her if he had known her testimony.

ð Our practice of dating is blatantly set against this cultural backdrop of which Christ

     both set up and consistently used to illustrate His relationship with us.

 

Answer: “Flee!”

 

2Ti_2:22  Flee also youthful lusts: but peruse  righteousness, faith, Love, and peace, with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart, (KJV-Based).

 

Pro_5:12 Remove your way far from her. Don't come near the door of her house, (WEB).

 

1Co_6:18-20 CAB Flee fornication. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits fornication sins against his own body.  19  Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?  20  For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.

 

Not committing fornication absolutely includes fleeing from it in the first place.

A.    Why flee if there were no danger of giving in to it???  “I can handle it!” you say. “The holy spirit will help me resist this temptation.” -But the Bible says to flee it. ß

B.     1Co_10:12-14 CAB So then, let him who thinks he stands take heed, lest he should fall!  13  …but with the temptation, He will also make the way out… 14  Wherefore, my beloved, flee

C.     You cannot rely on God to help you to stand in the place that He told you to flee from. (He only gives His Spirit to those who obey Him! Act_5:32, & See Eph_2:2).

D.    So: Resist Sin (Heb_12:4, Jas_4:7) and flee temptation (see above).

E.     How do you “glorify Him?”

F.      1Sa_15:22-23 …Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice! To listen is better than the fat of rams!  23  For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idol-worship. Because you have rejected the Word of Jehovah, He has also rejected you… (MKJV)

G.      1 Jn 5:3 This is love for God: to obey his commands. And his commands are not burdensome, (NIV).

H.    David fell to sexual sin, (2Sam 11). -Are you any better?

I.       Joseph fled from sexual temptation, (Gen_39:10-13).  “Parking” with “A Significant Other,” is the exact opposite!

J.       Avoid the direction of sin! Otherwise: “Oops! We didn’t mean to…” -I’ve seen it happen over and over again!!  So beware you who are called a “christian”.

K.    Psa_119:9 KJV-Based How will a young man make his way clean? [Good Question!] by taking heed according to Your word,
(Pray ‘Lord, You said to flee, so I’ll flee’).

L.      Remember: “…make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill its lusts,” (Rom_13:14).

M.    Note: If you do not actively, intentionally, zealously, and ‘obsessively,’ flee fornication, then you will fall into it, whether partially (by flirtation) or wholly (by premarital sex).

 

 “I’m Not Convicted About That”

 

1Co_4:4 WEB For I know nothing against myself. Yet I am not justified by this

Pro_14:12/16:25 MKJV  There is a way which seems right to a man, but the end of it is the ways of death.

Pro_30:12 WEB There is a generation that is pure in their own eyes, Yet are not washed from their filthiness.

Pro_16:2 WEB  All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes…

Pro_21:2 WEB  Every way of a man is right in his own eyes…

 

But someone will protest, “God knows my heart” to say that they are not lusting when they kiss and hold hands with their girlfriend

 

ð Yes He does know your heart:

 

Gen_8:21 KJV  the LORD said …the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth…

Jer_17:9 KJV  The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Pro_28:26 MKJV  He who trusts in his own heart is a fool; but whoever walks wisely, he shall be delivered.

 

 

 

Questions/Thoughts:

 

ð  Why does not flirting, kissing holding hands and the like and waiting on God to provide a spouse Vs. “Dating” seem weird? -Because you have to die to you’re idea of romance. Attraction is not just about “the dating game”; it’s for marriage and should wait for marriage.

 

ð  If you look for romance you will find judgment from God.

When you look for God instead, you will find Him and, (if you’re to marry),

He will give you romance that is more than you could have imagined!

 

More

 

Temptation

Jam_1:14-15 KJV-Based

But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.  15  Then when lust has conceived, it brings forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, brings forth death.

Remember: Look at woman lustfully = first stage of Adultery (Mt.5:27-30)

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Lustful Desires

Remember: “Lead us not into temptation” (Mt. 6:13)

Col. 3:5-6 ALT-Based Therefore, put to death your* members, the ones on the earth: fornication, impurity [or, immorality], lustful passion, evil desire, and the covetous desire [or, greed], which is idolatry,  6  because of which [things] the wrath of God is coming upon the sons [and daughters] of disobedience…

 

If you want to read some useful passages on fleeing fornication, read Proverbs 5-7

 

Good Question:

What do I Josiahs, (the writer) a young unmarried man have to gain out of saying all of these things except for the sake of righteousness?  Am I not the one who will have to obey it most?  Am I scoring points with all the girls by writing these things?  Do I really have anything else to gain by spending so much time on this, besides saving others?  I challenge you to fearlessly embrace the Truth as well in this matter.

 

Please consider and open your eyes to see:  That all the intimacy levels that we progress through in dating are flirtatious.  1. Gazing into each others eyes  2. Holding hands 3. Kisses which all lead to # 4. “Home run”.  Some people seem to have the attitude after reading some of these scriptures, that as long as they are committed to each other it is ok.  -Wake up!  -If you are not married, you are not married, and flirtation is wrong and worthy of judgment just as when you do it to some one walking down the street.  Granted under the Mosaic Law they would not have stoned fornication between engaged couples, but there was still sever punishment.

Whether engaged or not we are still not to flirt with any one we are not fully married to. 

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● 1Cor was talking to engaged young men and women when he said:

The unmarried are concerned about the lord’s affairs

 

It was said to Ruth

Rth_3:10-11 …you did not follow young men, whether poor or rich.  11  …For all the city of my people knows that you are a woman of virtue.

 

-Why do we think that we can get away with flirtation? It is not virtuous!  Not flirting with, *following around* attractive, (especially young) people that you are not married to proves that you are virtuous.  And the opposite is also true.  Flirts weather to one person or many are not virtuous.  Especially in their day, the qualities of being “young” and “rich” where attractive qualities to have.  May God forbid that we sin by following/ hanging out with attractive people so as to stir up premarital romance.

 

Part Three – How to Actually Get FREE from Lust!!

 

See: Auto-Lust of Men

The Automatic Lust of the Male Brain

 

The Basics of Defeating Forced Lust

Essential basics to getting free and defeating the mystery forced lust

 

Explanation

Some people do not particularly struggle with bondage to this sin, and because of this they can get away with not doing all of the following things and still appear to be doing good in this area. But for many people, especilly men, they cannot even pretend to be free of this profound and imossible tempation and sin that so potantly, easily and frequently brings them into bondage. If you know you are trapped in lust and cannot get free and are desporate to get free and willing to do whatever God says to be pure and free from this sin, then the following guide is written just for you.

If you do these things in truth then you can lay hold of promises from God to defeat the greatest and most imossible monsters of lust

This is not a quick fix, but a godly resolve to value truth and forsake all to fervantly  endure in what God is saying.

 

The Basics

This is a list of gold to me that took me the majority of 14 painful and torturing years of desperate prayer to find. I pray that it would over joy and set you free as it has been given to me

 

1 Be Biblically clothed

2 Quote and memorize primary Scriptures on a regular bases -including a commitment to the no dating Scriptures-

3 Reject and remove specific soul ties by name

(go down the list of name for everyone you have been tempted by)

4 Die to your right to hurt sexually and need sexual consolation -this part can be extremely humbling-

5 Get fear of lust out of your heart!

 

About Being Clothed – It Completely Changes The Way You See “You” And Others About You

We need to get ‘clothed and in our right minds’

 

You do not know what is proper or acceptable for yourself. You need the Bible to come along and school you how to dress morally so you can repent of your culture and be free of shameful immodesty

 

We need to repent and stop doing lust and immorality before we can fight it from over running our own heart, but this first sacrifice of selfish pride and boastful lustfulness of the sexuality of one’s own body and hatred toward the convenience and comfort of one’s own immoral culture is an extreme step that most are not willing to take.

 

If you do not make this sacrifice of repenting of your ignorant, immoral, lustful, and wicked culture so that you deny the pagan corporate indulgence of your personal sexuality, then you cannot cling to any promise from God to be free of the immoral seduction of others when you yourself are still visually participating in their filthy prostitution.

 

Repenting of the way our culture has taught us to dress is one of the primary and fist steps to getting free of the bondage to lust. It requires not only a drastic and extreme change in the way we view our own personal sexuality, but also the way we view everyone else’s sexuality. We can no longer simply walk around in the store having fun shopping as though it is a nice and sunny day, but we MUST walk about grieved by the naked bodies and ignorant pornography all about us. A perfect Modesty will definitely mark us as pilgrims and bizarre strangers in this world. We cannot walk about seeing the bear heads of women and the corporately naked bodies of everyone together as though it is normal or humane social interaction. We should blush and be ashamed on their account, because we have no right to go about casually seeing their shame and nakedness.

 

We should morn for their public exposure of nakedness and immoral display, constantly looking down at the floor the same way we (hopefully) would if everyone was dressed in their underwear. The difference now is that we have a much higher standard of normal human modesty that most people are completely unaware of. And we now seem like zombies walking about to them because we walk ashamed over them with our heads always down, have recoiled from their pagan culture of immoral indulgence, refusing to visually engage with their public display of shame and immorality.

 

Make Sure to Remove Hurt

- Fear of sexual immorality (Fear of falling into sexual immorality)

- Hurt because of being exposed to male/ female sexuality

- My right to hurt and need consolation (see below)

 

Breaking Lust Ties

When it seems impossibly to shake, along with the things below, also make sure to specifically renounce each person by name that comes to mind in your heart as at all tempting. If you are not sure you are free concerning someone specifically, then you probably need to renounce some adultery/ lust ties from you to them, and or them to you.

 

Make Sure to Take Hold of

The love of God - seek until you are consoled and not vulnerable to the exposure of compulsive, binding hurt-lust slavery

 

Die to Sexuality

I die to the pain -passion- of sexuality. i die to my right as a man to hurt sexually, and need sexual consolation, comfort and intimacy.

 

Renouncing the Heritage of Forced Lust

A Declaration for those who have forsaken the immorality of this age to Be Truly Pure according to the demands of the Bible

 

From now on the crimes of sexuality are…

- not what I want

- not what I've done

- not who I am (I am not a fornicator)

 

 

 

Extremist Boundaries

 

Sir_7:24-26 Brenton  Hast thou daughters? have a care of their body, and shew not thyself cheerful toward them.  25  Marry thy daughter, and so shalt thou have performed a weighty matter: but give her to a man of understanding.  26  Hast thou a wife *after thy mind [* might not be original]? forsake her not: but give not thyself over to a light woman.

> see DAR for a more detail consideration of the divorce text

 

Sir_8:17-19 Brenton  Consult not with a fool; for he cannot keep counsel.  18  Do no secret thing before a stranger; for thou knowest not what he will bring forth.  19  Open not thine heart to every man, lest he requite thee with a shrewd turn.

 

Sir_9:1-9 Brenton  Be not jealous over the wife of thy bosom, and teach her not an evil lesson against thyself.  2  Give not thy soul unto a woman to set her foot upon thy substance.  3  Meet not with an harlot, lest thou fall into her snares.  4  Use not much the company of a woman that is a singer, lest thou be taken with her attempts.  5  Gaze not on a maid, that thou fall not by those things that are precious in her.  6  Give not thy soul unto harlots, that thou lose not thine inheritance.  7  Look not round about thee in the streets of the city, neither wander thou in the solitary place thereof.  8  Turn away thine eye from a beautiful woman, and look not upon another's beauty; for many have been deceived by the beauty of a woman; for herewith love is kindled as a fire.  9  Sit not at all with another man's wife, nor sit down with her in thine arms, and spend not thy money with her at the wine; lest thine heart incline unto her, and so through thy desire thou fall into destruction.

Sir_9:1-9 Greek  Μὴ ζήλου γυναῖκα τοῦ κόλπου σου μηδὲ διδάξῃς ἐπὶ σεαυτὸν παιδείαν πονηράν.  2  μὴ δῷς γυναικὶ τὴν ψυχήν σου ἐπιβῆναι αὐτὴν ἐπὶ τὴν ἰσχύν σου.  3  μὴ ὑπάντα γυναικὶ ἑταιριζομένῃ, μήποτε ἐμπέσῃς εἰς τὰς παγίδας αὐτῆς.  4  μετὰ ψαλλούσης μὴ ἐνδελέχιζε, μήποτε ἁλῷς ἐν τοῖς ἐπιχειρήμασιν αὐτῆς.  5  παρθένον μὴ καταμάνθανε, μήποτε σκανδαλισθῇς ἐν τοῖς ἐπιτιμίοις αὐτῆς.  6  μὴ δῷς πόρναις τὴν ψυχήν σου, ἵνα μὴ ἀπολέσῃς τὴν κληρονομίαν σου.  7  μὴ περιβλέπου ἐν ῥύμαις πόλεως καὶ ἐν ταῖς ἐρήμοις αὐτῆς μὴ πλανῶ.  8  ἀπόστρεψον ὀφθαλμὸν ἀπὸ γυναικὸς εὐμόρφου καὶ μὴ καταμάνθανε κάλλος ἀλλότριον· ἐν κάλλει γυναικὸς πολλοὶ ἐπλανήθησαν, καὶ ἐκ τούτου φιλία ὡς πῦρ ἀνακαίεται.  9  μετὰ ὑπάνδρου γυναικὸς μὴ κάθου τὸ σύνολον καὶ μὴ συμβολοκοπήσῃς μετ᾿ αὐτῆς ἐν οἴνῳ, μήποτε ἐκκλίνῃ ἡ ψυχή σου ἐπ᾿ αὐτὴν καὶ τῷ πνεύματί σου ὀλίσθῃς εἰς ἀπώλειαν.

 

 

Part Four – What to Do, When It's Time to Pursue

A practical application and admonition

 

First added 5/15/07

 

Find as many people you can submit to, and submit.

Don't trust your own judgment

Don't make decisions on your own, ask others first.

> Don't get alone <

Don't forget: > Don't get alone <

Get stricter than you've ever been in your whole life

Reject all of the 10,000,000 excuses you can think of to not be so strict on yourself

Determine to not let yourself think that others are being over-precocious [THEY ARE NOT]

Don't “accountability-Hop”

Don't indulge in romance, indulge in Jesus. Be completely chaste until marriage!

Don't “Practice” being married, practice being Single, and in it prepare to get married.

Put on the “Parachute of Preparation” to be pure

Tie your shoes so that you do not trip

Remember: If you ever gone to far, you were going in the wrong direction to get there

 

 

Where is your significant other?

I know, “she’s tired from running through your mind all day long” -- but really, where is she?

She is in your heart, because that is where you love her.

Now here is the point: You can't trust your heart! It will lie to you.

 

Your wanting to become more devoted to someone than you've ever been in your whole life, and you will naturally want to add DEVOTION, on top of DEVOTION to express your commitment.

The only catch is: you’re not married yet.  Challenge your perception of devotion to your significant other, because it is not accomplished how you would naturally assume.

    Godly Premarital Devotion is made of different ingredients than the carnal mind comes up with.

 

Integrity and Accountability

You can’t trust yourself

If you reject submission, like nearly everyone does, then this verse falls on you:

 

Pro_18:1 KJ2000  A man, having separated himself, seeks his own desire, and rages against all sound wisdom.

 

Pro_18:1 CAB  A man who wishes to separate from friends seeks excuses, but at all times he will be liable to reproach.

 

That is, “separated himself” from the people he ought to be in community and accountability with. How might this play out with a woman who is supposed to be dependent and seeks to be independent?

 

Godly Devotion is not made up of:

Long hours together

Sharing your most intimate feelings

Going to social events just to go off and sit in a corner together

Acting like you already own their body:

Holding hands, kissing, putting your arm around them etc.

 

What you would not want another to do to them before you met, do not do to them now.

 

 

Godly Devotion is made of:

Saving all the fun of romance till marriage

Patience: waiting till marriage to share intimate feelings

Sobriety

Refusing to cross lines

letting others gage when you're going too far.

 

A Curfew is a good idea

 

Remember what was said to Ruth:

Rth_3:10-11 …you did not follow young men, whether poor or rich.  11  …For all the city of my people knows that you are a woman of virtue.

 

 

Don't forget that the purity principal of sisters still applies to you

 

 

-- Resist the lie that says you have special privileges now that you are in a relationship

 

 

Journal:

 

 

Relationships are not for a trial run, but they are for marriage.

If you don't see it this way, then the principal that you operate on is no different than dating.

 

Don't prepare in case you are tempted, prepare because you know you will be tempted.

This includes setting up clear boundaries and standards that set you up to not compromise.

 

Between all of the faithful friends that you have, who love you and have your best interests in mind, there is no reason at all that you should be doing things and making decisions on your own without submission.

 

Don't lie to yourself and say, “My friend is being too strict! I wish he would loosen up and not worry so much.”

 

Since you know for sure that these thoughts will cross your mind, and they will convince you if you don't determine ahead of time that you will reject them when they come.  Otherwise, I ask you to write it down and make plans on lying to yourself.

 

Make the good and humble confession:

I am capable of lying to my self

I am more than capable of deceiving myself when it becomes convenient

I am not more capable of handling my relationship than my countless predecessors who have gone before me and have fallen

I am not above the temptation of David, who when he was left to his own was able to convince himself and justify his sin for a season.  When his accountability was unexpectedly reestablished by a rebuke he quickly regained his senses

Let your confession be: My heart is not more trustworthy than David's heart that deceived him, though he had walked as a man after God's own heart.

 

Though your heart is as wise as an angel (as it was said of David) it will be deceived by the enticing of romance without accountability.

 

Don't say to yourself, “We can hear God for ourselves” and ignore that He has put others in your life for this very purpose of speaking to you.

“We can't please others, we've got to come up with what we think God is saying about how we should handle our relationship”

 

Sin has cast down many wounded before you came on the scene, and it will not spare you either.

 

 

 

 

No one lives to himself nor does he die to himself. Your relationship is other people's concern. When you, as a hand, put yourself in an ant-pile you cannot say, “it's my business” when you cause the ants to bite the other members of Christ's body.

 

Through the enticing of sin and the insubordination from protection, a strong mans heart is overcome and Samson's hair is cut off and his eyes plucked out.  He comes here by isolating himself to his own decisions and leaving the submission of his parents.

 

Don't say, “Our relationship is holy and ordained by God so that we will not fall to the same things that others give into” because the Bible has said that way of a man with a made is as the way with a man and a seductress.  Don't dismiss the Bible as a lie. Because it says that though your relationship be as pure as can be and set in place by God, you are as capable of falling as a man with a seductress.

 

You can justify anything when romance is thinking for you.

 

So “submit to one another out of the fear of God” 

 

You are fighting against “The Seductress” no matter how Godly your significant other may be, because Satan is the one tempting you.

 

 

 

“Safe Proposals”

How do you propose or seek marriage while keeping with the Biblical purity boundaries of not “Stirring up love” before marriage, and treating “younger woman as sisters”?

 

At first consideration, the Biblical boundary stops flagrant immorality and lustfulness because, “You wouldn’t do that with your sister.” Afterwards, we see it involves more than simply a mirror of how one would treat their siblings, because the Bible shows us that siblings have more intimacy than non-relatives (Song 8), even in the Church.

 

What are the methods?

 

Chaperones are Biblical

- Chaperones, authorities, representatives and delegations serve as go-betweens on different levels, and are the primary means to avoid stirring things up before marriage. This often filters out a lot of guesswork and helps manage and properly convey difficult emotions and desires that can be inappropriate if expressed in the wrong way.

- Chaperones are not always Authorities, but they could also be faithful friends, or “delegates,” or “representatives.”

- This especially holds true when an advising authority is not available.

 

Still

- there are some cases where go-betweens are not necessarily the most appropriate avenue.

(such as Ruth)

 

But even with this…

- There ought to always be authority or delegation somehow as much as possible for all integrity.

(such as Naomi)

 

- The status of your submission is nearly always the teller if you are doing things right or not.

 

- Sometimes there are Adam and Eve scenarios

- But this is a situation of forced circumstance that a couple should not seek out.

 

Societal Obligations

- God wants us to include societal accountability as much as possible.

- We are not an island, and do not have a right to pretend that marriage is our “private business” and “personal decision.”

- Disciples are to show that God made people with an obligation to the Church and society, to cooperate with accountability and live above reproach.

- Your marriage is not “your personal business.” People have a right to monitor what you are doing and how you are living

- Marriage is rightly called “The smallest unit of society.” Therefore, we have no right to rob others of the life God gave us to serve others with.

- We are taking up a life allotment, and possibly a marriage, that is mint to benefit others, not to please ourselves. We have no right to do with it whatever we please without asking and considering others.

So…

- When societal delegates are available we should use them.

 

But while you seek submission

- There’s no reason to submit to “Carnal Sue”: Pro_15:22; Pro_11:14, Pro_20:18

(get councilors who are more committed to righteousness than yourself, when possible)

 

 

Ruth Proposal

 

- They can send me or someone there first to the man to explain to him what “feet” mean, so she can later make a “Ruth Proposal.”

 

Prep: Integrity

“Stay close by the young women” (Rth_2:8, Rth_2:22; Rth_3:2, Rth_3:10-11)

He deferred to not pleasing himself (Rth_3:10, Rth_3:13)

 

Dressing up to show honor is good: Rth_3:3

(does not say “expensive” but “best” clothing, whatever that may be)

 

Protecting, Not Flirting

- If you’re already indulging, you could still propose, but forget the “Safe Proposal” and that “favor” God wants to give. [Somehow, maybe we can see how to “express eagerness and openness” to marriage without flirting if we keep reading…]

- Boaz was in the business of protecting her, not flirting with her. He maintained no flirting through the time they finally had to say something

(“Is he the right guy/girl? Am I ready?” – First see if these previous points are in place)

 

Patience

- There was good favor leading up to it. So there should be in our relationships.

 

What Did She do?

- Gave a few direct honest submissive words about marriage, and even demonstrated her virtuous ideal in her posture

- Not a persuasion speech, but very persuasive!

- Not “caught,” and “forced” (as seductress in Prov)

- She clearly and powerfully displayed the proposal, while being humble, submissive and quiet at the same time.

 

Why Didn’t He Propose?

- Possibly could have been that he was older 

- There was another guy ahead of him (3:12)

- Whatever other reasons he may have had, a significant part of it was probably that He did not want to impose when his job was to protect.

- It was not because he didn’t want to marry her

- It seems clear that he was not blind to her appealing qualities (2:5), but he was more concerned for her best than he was in taking advantage of the situation.

- He considered her proposal “Kind” (3:10) as though he didn’t previously expect that she would want to marry

- But had the thought crossed his mind? (3:12)

- But in this way of not imposing on her, there were no mixed motives in the end on his behalf.

 

 

- She had come to his field looking for, and found, favor and protection (Ruth_2:2, 8-9, 15)

- She was in a pretty vulnerable spot

- What position would that put her in if he had proposed?

- All “brothers” are to protect, but if there are situations were a female is particularly seeking help, it can be inappropriate for a spiritual brother to take advantage of the vulnerability of the situation instead of seeking her best interest.

- Almost similar with Kevin Scott situation, (Sort of…)

- This probably has much to do with why it was necessary for her to propose to him.

- This type of scenario is what might call for her to take the 1st step, for the sake of maintaining his sincerity in all matters.

- No “gain saying” for him.

- Sometimes she may need to “permit” him, so that he does not impose on her.

 

How to Propose?

- Things should be carried out for the purpose of shinning the greatest righteousness, not for the best way of meeting lustful desire

- Is there a guy who is not proposing for good integrity reasons? – Then righteousness might be best exalted best when she says something first.

- In most cases (other than this one) she should probably let him take the first step.

- But if she thinks she should say something and he hasn’t yet, she should first ask herself if integrity restricts him, and the need bids her.

- If not, in most cases she should wait for him to initiate, until and unless God makes things to be clearly otherwise.

 

A Summary of this

There is something so good about the story of Ruth and Boaz:

What’s beautiful is that they each displayed submission to God’s integrity to withhold themselves from lust and presumption in their respective particular scenarios and roles of life which God had placed them in as man and woman:

Boaz was not a presumptuous forceful male who sought to please himself when he had the opportunity to do so, and Ruth was virtuous, submissive, gentle, and highly effective in presenting a quiet and pure proposal and “invitation,” without flirting, indulging, or seducing.

 

What about Dialoging (and dropping hints) in that direction?

Proposals by nature are active toward a relationship of intimacy.

Suggesting an interest in taking things in that direction is also very active, and is a strong force to be managed by virtue.

- Rebecca and Ruth increased their modesty in the face of seeking marriage

- Rebecca worked hard for the one who was deciding her marital “readiness.”

- Ruth worked hard in front of her future husband (Ruth_2:7, 11-12, 15)

- The more virtue you live, the more you’re ready, and the more a godly prospect is interested –

 

Seek to speak spiritual truths about the possibility of marriage, but if they are not listening to God, then you’re out of gas here with being subtle.

But what do I mean?

- Hear clearly what God is saying, and speak about it. (This should always apply anyway, but it is especially necessary here)

- This should be with all relationships anyway, but…

- If you’re called in the same direction God will confirm it to the other person when they hear where God is pointing you.

- If both are seeking God, then they know what “Spouse Requirements” (or “lists”) they have, and can compare notes with what an authority says in light of the one they are considering.

- By speaking God’s calling, you can let God “drop hints” if those elements are there in the other person’s life.

 

With Lifestyle

If a prospect is in your life, virtues should surface:

- women humble, hard work and pure

- men protecting, displaying integrity and kindness.

 

- Moses and Boaz were in the business of protecting, not flirting. God exalted them to marriage as a result

- Compare: “If she has washed the saint’s feet”

- Guy should be exhibiting “The Law of His Mother” Pro_31:4-9

 

- Demonstrating virtues shows readiness, and a common calling might “drop hints”

- Speaking to Authorities and representatives is one of the safest ways to communicate considerations, (if it does not happen some other way such as a “Ruth Proposal” or prayer confirmations).

 

Her Invitations

- If the she does drop hints, they should be discrete and passive. Gentleness and quietness are very persuasive to the godly.

Whether direct or subtle:

- Any hints she gives should be saying things like, “Isn’t God saying this?” and “I’m interested and I’m waiting on you,” rather than trying to direct and make things happen.

 

His Suggestions

- If he’s shy, it’s his responsibility to “get over it” through much prayer and fighting (though it’s easier said than done).

- Obviously there needs to be a definite display of good favor as with Boaz (Rth_2:8, 10, 13-14, 16).

- Gifts are ok (Isaac servant; Rth_2:16; 3:15, 17)

- There is no reason a guy should ever enter into a situation where he is not assured that he is welcome.

 

For Them Both

- Expressing these things without indulging and awakening things that ought not to be there is accomplished by brokenness, desperation, fasting, eagerness, and a display of God’s good favor and faithful joy towards the person.

 

Ask Family First

If she has parents or bothers who are involved in her life, these should always be consulted for permission when possible.  Though siblings are ideally to function as spokes people because they are to have an inherent part in their sister’s life for her well-being, the father has the final say and authority.

 

Especially if a guy initiates proposal, when possible, her parents should be asked first.

He has no right to ask what she is not independent to grant. If parents are truly gone out of the picture, then she stands on her own decision, as it was with Ruth (see Num_30:9). But there are surrogate parents and brothers (such as Naomi).

 

If something does happen before this, consider Mosaic vow principal with daughters (Num_30:2-16).

 

If she has unsaved family, females should seek to act as “shrewd as a serpent” (Mat_10:16) in “gaining their freedom” (1Co_7:21) from their authorities to “marry whom they will” (1Co_7:39). (All reapplied Bible verses)

 

Trust God Enough to Forgo Pursuing, Until He Exalts

Activate your faith in action to believe these things:

 

God will not allow favor to be diverted from the faithful!

- You can trust good authority. God will guide their heart.

- If you can pass it up in faith, God will bring it around in reward

 

These verses are mostly about money, but could possibly be reapplied here:

 

Ecc_11:1 WEB  Cast your bread on the waters; For you shall find it after many days.

 

Pro_11:24 WEB  There is one who scatters, and increases yet more. There is one who withholds more than is appropriate, but gains poverty.

 

Psa_126:5 WEB  Those who sow in tears will reap in joy.

 

Heb_6:10 WEB  For God is not unrighteous, so as to forget your work and the labor of love…

 

Humble Exalted

 

Sacrifice In Order to Seek

Pray and fast beforehand to take hold of character

 

Guard Heart

You don’t need to volunteer info

 

In these cases, a passive attitude is necessary to avoid sin, even if you are as active as Ruth.

(Her activeness was in submission to the will of her authority)

 

Single Indeed

An unfinished meditation

 

'Save church $ for those who are widows indeed'

> There is a such thing as those who are "unmarried indeed"

Those who are truly living single for Jesus until He would give them a wife God has resurved a special treasure.  The Church is not to waist its money on thos widows who are widows by technicallity but don't live as such in their lives.

Similarrly a virtuous woman is a pricless comodaty. What does it say?

"Her caust is more than rubies..."

They are truly rare

"....who can find"

even to the point that it is only by the favor of God that one obtains such a wife.

"Finds a wife... [is acctually] obtaining favor from the Lord"

And what does that single person look like who is 'single indeed'?

"The unmarried man is concerned about the lord's affares"

If we will know that there are truly thos woman who are virtuous and especially priceless in his eyes then to whom has He promised them?  If the Church is to be like Christ and we are clearly told not to waist mony on the socalled 'widows' which are not so in heart, will Christ then contradict this pattern and give those precious virtuous women to thos who are not single indeed? Certinly not! Indeed, if we live single but are not so indeed, then we are on our own when it comes to finding a spouse. For god does not exalt thos who exalt themselves, but those who humble themselves. Those who seak out their wife will not be obtaining favor of God, but they will be exalting themselves and forfiting God's exaltation for them.

 

 

Think: Dating (as we know it) offers a deceptive sense of comfort from emotional pain; it offers a false sense of love and well being. But it leads to death, because it is in the direction of adultery:

 

Pro_7:18 LITV  Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning, let us delight ourselves with caresses.

 

(But it says she leads to hell)

 


Old:

What if you say “I’m not convicted about my relationship with my girlfriend” -My answer?

Who cares whether or not you’re convicted?

Who cares about your convictions if they don’t line up with the Bible?  Your opinions apart from the Truth of God are worthless disgusting cancer in God’s sight so why should any one treat them different than the refuse that they flush down the toilet?  Yes I’m being offensive, and I hope that anyone who reads this and continues in their own convictions is thoroughly offended.  -If they aren’t then I’m not doing a very good job.

ð This does not justify any one

 

 

 

 

Purity Devo

 

Don’t go beyond

1Th_4:2-9

-          Will of God abides forever (1Jn_2:15)

-          Beyond a troop (2Sa_22:30)

 

Song of Songs

Son_8:8-9 WEB  We have a little sister. She has no breasts. What shall we do for our sister In the day when she is to be spoken for?  9  If she is a wall, We will build on her a turret of silver. If she is a door, We will enclose her with boards of cedar. Beloved

-          Who here believes that the Bible is True?

-          Say (to bros) after me: “It’s your job to keep us pure!”

 

Betrothal

1Co_7:1-4

 

Ø  Do not touch (v. 1)

Ø  v. 6 shows it’s a command

Ø  Later part shows it includes engaged couples (1Co_7:34-38)

Ø  Understand and believe sharp contrast with verse 3!

Ø  -Feet (non-romantic)

 

To “Touch” 680 comes from Greek “ἅπτω 681 (haptō) meaning to “set on fire”

Used in: Luk_8:16; 11:33; 15:8; 22:55;

 

2Co_6:17-18 KJVCNT  Therefore come out from among them, and be separate, says the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.  18  And will be a Father unto you, and you shall be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty.

 

As Sisters

1Time 5: “As sisters”

Ø  Bro / Sis signs

 

Equation

No touch + As sisters/ feet = Purity

 

Physical Romantic Affection

 

Romance with Gas

 

Remember touch compared with setting on fire

- Intoxicant thoughts-

 

Can a man soup fire lap not burned? (Pro_6:27)

Strong as death (Son_8:6)

So is the way with a man and an adulteress  (Pro_30:18-20)

Make a 1st Cor 7 for Singles

- She somehow seemed to know the other guy relative (who would have been next in line) was not the best choice, but he apparently did not know she had concluded this till she said so

 

 

 

 

Define "dating"

(see 2007 email)

monogamas flirtation is the same sin as being loose with many people. Somehow we conclude that we have more rights to romance and affection when we are planning to marry someone than with other relationships. What? Does this sound familiar? "It's ok, we love each other and We are going to get married anyway..." Is'nt it strange how we mimic th excuses of the world for fornication to justify flirtation! 

I wish this was as obvious as it sounds: Human beings were never desiged nor intended nor permitted by God to have "Partial" sexual relationships. Do you think He designed such a strong drive so that we could go part way? When a person goes part-way is'nt it obious that this steep slope of intoxicating drive was mint to make us go all the way? God did not build us or permit us to hold hands and drink tea together, He mint for married couples to have sex. If God did not design nor allow us to open the "love box" before marriage, why do we engage in physical romance before it is lawful to have sex?  I need to continue to be blunt:

Do you hold hands with someone you want to play cards with, or with someone you desire to have sex with? Do you crave romantic afection from a person for the purpose of estalishing a buisness partnership, or because you want a mate?

It is clear that physical romantic affection is sexual. All sexual relationships are restricted within the bounds of marriage and everything outside of this is against God's design and His law.

 

If you are not married you do not own another person's body.

 

Quote - References for God likes romance

Here is familiar Scripture (Psa. 19): "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament showeth his handiwork. .... In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run his course." That does not betray any lack of sympathy with the exuberant spirit of a lover. So Isa_62:4-5 : "For Yahweh delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married. For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee; and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee."

-

 

"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh" (Gen_2:24).

 

 

 

Sin Messed up God’s Design

 

Sex was made good

- hyper - sensitive soul established for youth to celebrate the initiation of marriage

- Guys melt simply based on how a woman looks

- God made beauty repute value upon her and favor in her man’s eyes

- touch designed to catapult into sex

- Designed to completely crave and need it

 

But is it now Bad?

- So you say: "But God made me to feel this way... about girls. Why is it wrong to act on it?"

- But God did not design you to lust after people before marriage: lacks understanding... destroys sol... body was not made for fornication...

- You see the evident perversion in that we live in a way to be with people and afect them sexually outside of marriage

 

Sin is the Culprit

Sin > Most immediately thing affected: sexuality (shame)

- My mom's story of my fit over the sandwitch

- you care more about mom's injustice than the bus driver's

What was of the highest good for relationships was turned into the highest level of evil.

 

Messed up, and Given to Vanity

beauty is vain

don't lust after it in your heart

flee lust

 

Only Answer: Redemption

 

God's promises mean getting unimaginable marriage if we are pure

 

Touch

1Co_7:1-2

Gen_20:2-6

Pro_6:29

 

Soul Ties

 

-- Under Construction --

 

before i knew’ (Song of Songs)

So is the way of an adulteress… (seduction is mysterious, not obvious or easily seen)

get Facebook quote —now it is hard

 

Add ‘lust ‘ to wall quest.

delight in sin that not supposed to do

 

 

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Incomplete thoughts

 

There are different words that come into use between the application of 1Cor_7:1, and other Greek words and charges throughout the Bible concerning cross-gender touching and purity. The word in question here, addressing a man's interaction with a woman, is ἅπτομαι (G680) which "Refers to such handling of an object as to exert a modifying influence upon it or upon oneself." (The Complete Word Study Dictionary) To “Touch” in this case comes from the Greek word “ἅπτω 681 (haptō) meaning to “set on fire” as used in: Luk_8:16; Luk_11:33; Luk_15:8; Luk_22:55;

 

As a female God designed your body to be sexually modified when a guy touches you romantically

 

But in the Bible there is also that which could be called "non-relational" touching, (such as helping a woman get up Mar_5:40-42; Mar_1:31; Act_9:40-41) and in Greek, the Bible might use a variety of other words to describe these actions, such as the word, psēlapháō (ψηλαφάω - G5584), which is typically used of touching slightly to gather information (whether physical or spiritual): “(Luk_24:39; Act_17:27; Heb_12:18; 1Jo_1:1; Sept.: Gen_27:12, Gen_27:21-22).” (Word Study)

This word, as well as others, have varying degrees of meaning which do not necessarily include “exert[ing] a modifying influence” as ἅπτομαι (G680) and ἅπτω (G681) do:

 

"Syn.: prospsaúō (G4379), to touch upon, touch slightly (Luk_11:46); eggízō (G1448), to come near; piázō (G4084), to lay hand on; kolláō (G2853), to glue; proseggízō (G4331), to approach."

And from  psēlapháō (ψηλαφάω - G5584)...

" Deriv. of psáō (n.f.), to touch lightly: psállō (G5567), to play a stringed instrument..."

 

If these words in action are applied in a cross-gender way in the Bible, it is nearly always restricted to the head of a woman and the feet of a man (except as shown previously with helping a woman up). And from 1Co_7:1 we can see that touching is not moral where the action changes the inside of the person touched by exerting an influence upon them, or alters or establishes anything relationally in the act. In other words, romantic touching is the touching that 1 Corinthians is referring to and effectively forbidding for singles. Such touching is described as only happening in marriage for a Christian and is deemed as a sufficient descriptive term for fornication for those who sin by “touching” before marriage.

Secular psychologists tell us that if a woman hugs a guy for more than about 20 seconds her system will naturally release chemicals that establish trust in her heart for a man. Similar things could very easily be said of many other affections including holding hands, which in Westernized culture, is reserved for men and women who wish to share a romantic influence over each other. Such touching engages sex-based interaction, and exerts a sexually modifying effect upon each party.

I would hope that it is revealing to note that this is the very act that the Bible uses as a euphemism or social expression for both lawful sex within marriage as well as the unlawfulness of fornication (before marriage).

 

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Your putting restrictions and limits on your display of affection to observe what is moral and right.

 

It is more important to God that you respect the sexual distinction that He has established in the earth, than for you to express your love and care for someone in affection.

 

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In the case of Jesus and Peter, not touching in a modifying way is so important to them that they will change the way they raise a person from the dead before they will change the way a person feels romantically by their touch! Wow! And what do our minute excuses amount to which we use to touch people in inappropriate ways!

 

But some will argue that the term is ONLY a euphemism for sex and does not actually include the literal act of romantic touching. But if the Bible did not first consider such touching as inherently sensuous and erotic, then how would it ever come to indicate sex? No, we need not be so shallow: Because the Bible acknowledges the sexual indulgence of influential touching between opposite sexes, it naturally flags this touching as a corner stone for the area of fornication which it initiates.

 

 

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Resurrections:

When raising men from the dead, this often involved considerable physical contact

1Ki_17:18-22; 2Ki_4:31-36; Act_20:9-10;

 

[Exceptions: Luk_7:15, boy in casket; Joh_11:43-44, Lazarus; (but I don’t think Paul was dead: Act_14:19-20)]

 

But with women it was never this way:

Mar_5:40-42; Mar_1:31; Act_9:40-41

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Anti-lust scriptures

I need to compile a brief list like this

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How to Flee Lust

 

Seven Daily Scriptures

Quote them basically every day of your life, until you are delivered completely from lust

 

Pro_6:25

Pro_27:20

Mat_5:27

1Ti_5:1-2

2Ti_2:22

Gal_5:24

Gal_2:20

 

Lust Dreams, Wet Dreams, Nocturnal Emissions

Other dates (~2011-2014?); 4/6/17

>> combine “Biblical Bathrooms” & PurPro

(i.e. Deu_23: & Lev_15: Summary)

 

Lev_15:1-18 -- men seed

Lev_15:19-30 -- women blood

Lev_15:31-33 -- Summary for men and women

 

Men’s seed is paralleled with woman’s blood -- this entire chapter, including its parallels, are all circumstantial, and almost everything in this section of Leviticus is about the particular parable of the Jews and does not address absolute moralities for all peoples.

 

Can a man, even a non-Jewish man, sin by being with a woman during her blood? Absolutely.

But this potential sin is not covered in this section because it only addresses Jew-only parables here.

Only later, in Lev_18 and the surrounding chapters does Leviticus describe abslute moral boundaries that applies to all the children of Adam.

 

Lev_15:2-18 - Man unclean

esp.

Lev_15:2-3 - ῥύσις* ἐκ τοῦ σώματος αὐτοῦ, ἡ ῥύσις αὐτοῦ ἀκάθαρτός ἐστιν

Lev_15:16 - ἐξέλθῃ ἐξ αὐτοῦ κοίτη σπέρματος

 

Lev_15:19-30 - woman

Lev_15:31-33 - recap

(...εὐλαβεῖςG2126 ποιήσετε τοὺς υἱοὺς Ισραηλ...; ἐάν τινι ἐξέλθῃ ἐξ αὐτοῦ κοίτη σπέρματος... ἐν τῇ ῥύσει* αὐτοῦ...)

 

(*"ῥύσις," ALS, p. 484 - issue/ flow/ discharge/ course; but see: ῥύσειG4511 -as used in NT below-; ῥέωG4482; ῥυπόωG4510)

 

1Sa_20:26 - David thought to be?

(simply: "συμπτωμα* φαινεταιG5316...μὴ καθαρὸς εἶναι, ὅτι οὐ κεκαθάρισταιG2511")

[*"συμπτωμα" ALS, p. 513 - "chance event, mishap; sign, indication, symtom"]

 

Lev_22:4-7 - Seed of Aaron

(τοῦ σπέρματος Ααρων...ᾧ ἂν ἐξέλθῃ ἐξ αὐτοῦ κοίτη σπέρματος)

 

Num_5:2-3 - Put them out of camp (πάντα γονορρυῆ*)

 

[*"γονορρυῆ" ALS, p. 114 - "discharge of seed or blood, suffering from gonorrhea"]

 

TSK - with Greek inserted by Josiahs

2Sa_3:29 [γονορρυης*]; Mat_9:20 [αιμορροουσαG131]; Mar_5:25 [ἐν ῥύσειG4511 αἵματος], Mar_7:20-23; Luk_8:43 [ἐν ῥύσειG4511 αἵματος]" (Zec_13:1)

 

 

 

Both woman's and man's life generation was cursed by sin at the fall.

the very core essence of their being was cursed and affected.

They did not just feel the curse outside with their skin.

They felt it from their deepest insides and generative capacities, and from the inside out they felt shame.

The very first thing sin touched and corrupted and marred was the human gender identity.

As soon as they sinned, the next thing we are told is that they felt shame on the gender. 

 

generation contains a reminder of what was cursed by sin.

Jews were required to contradict this reminder with the strictest diligence.

God saw the microsoptic parable, and they were required to live with that awareness which their eyes could not see, and their heart could not otherwise appreciate without some position acknowledging the truth of faith.

 

 

 

 

Part Five – Miscellaneous

 

 

 

PSA -- Personal Sexual Activity

 

 

 

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5/14/25

 

>>Scrip:

It is not good for man to be alone

 

Therefore fulfilling God’s design of the human body outside of a woman made for him is called “not good” from the very beginning of human creation.

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April 2016

>> google: if you remember your wife you will never sin

4/3/16

>>Scrip:

If you always remember your wife you will not sin

2/9/18

if you always remember your wife you will never sin

> The Shepherd of Hermes

 

 

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come together quickly that Satan not tempt you

 

Deuteronomy 22 and woman is killed for doing sexual gratification before marriage

 

Matthew 19 being a eunuch is the only alternative to marriage

 

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The Parable of Seed - Don't Wastefully Pour It Out!

3/17/18-3/19/18

 

>>Scrip:

God's word does not return to him empty

the word of God is like seeds (sperm)

he can't send because his seed remains in him (he is a legitimate son who was produced by valuable seed, and that seed was not wasted, but it produced the fruit that it intended)

 

the real terminology when people sleep together is called a bed of sperm / seed

Pouring it outside of a woman defiles a jewish man -- and we also can feel that defilement if we are not completely desensitized.

Gen38

 

there are two sins here

in one sense they are different and distinct, and in another sense one cannot exist without the other.

if someone insists and presses the issue and says that the only sin here was that he would not give seed to his brother and that is the only reason God killed him, this can be essentially shown to be false, because when a man declined to give seed to his brother in a social, formal way, he was not killed by the death penalty, but he was simply reprimanded and disapproved.

Onan participated in sexual behavior and wasted the seed by pouring it out and not putting it in a woman, and therefore he not only deserved a rebuke but also death. he indulged in sexuality in a non valuing way and was therefore killed.

so in one sense, you can say that his primary sin was not loving Tamar or her potential children, but one sin leads to the other, and if he did not want to give her seed, he could have at least bowed out in a socially honest way, but he deceptively defiled seed (the most valuable climax of sexuality) in the process and therefore committed an outrageous Abomination before God

 

to avoid fornication, do marriage

come together so that Satan does not tempt you

 

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psa --

8/17/17

look at the high standards of both absolute monogamy and virginity that women are held to throughout the Bible. if she remarries then she is defiled, although this is never said of men who can even practice polygamous marriage without sin.

but if she is not anatomically virgin she can be killed....... and if she is found to have been unfaithful within marriage then she can be killed...

for the longest time throughout history, the Bible did not emphasize the absolute sexual Chastity and purity of men.

there was less anatomical social accountability, and a man was never stoned for being found to not be a virgin.

men assumed that because it was not specifically forbidden, therefore it was not condemned and it would not make them guilty of sin or make them go to hell.

this would be the type of social problem that made Samson vulnerable to fall into being with prostitutes.

who knows for how many years men did not feel guilty for being immoral, and people Justified themselves and complained that the Bible did not specifically command men not to be with prostitutes,

but just when no one felt guilty and no one expected that they were responsible and liable for committing crimes, the prophet says that he will no longer punish their women for being prostitutes because the men themselves are separated unto prostitutes.

and then thousands of years later, the end result was that Revelation praises the male virgins -- the same standard that was applied to women is unexpectedly applied to men!

just as women could not be with men before marriage, nor could they tamper with their anatomical virginity, so also now men are demanded to be absolutely pure until marriage.

that's what it means to be a virgin indeed!

a widow who was separated from her husband by death yet lived in pleasure and indulged despite her sad state of life was not worthy to be helped by the church.

she was dead already if she lived in pleasures.

now here you are, waiting for marriage, presumably, and if you indulge in Pleasures you are not a virgin indeed any more than a fake widow who lives in pleasures.

it is high time someone finally remembered what the word Chastity means, and took to heart the high standard that the Bible sets for this type of virtue.

...

remember that the Bible progressively Titans and makes more strict the standard of sexual purity as time goes on...

as seen with incest, polygamy, and even virginity.

 

>> See: LO > “Don’t Go Beyond What is Written”

 

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Heretic Defends Masturbation

8/16/17; 1/9/22

 

http://atruechurch.info/masturbation.html

 

and Polygamy

https://atruechurch.info/polygamy.html

 

core heresies:

(1) Things are permitted unless explicitly forbidden

(2) The Bible addresses all things that are condemned / g-d is not silent on things that send you to hell (BIG assumption!)

(3) “Scripture Alone” -- even though they supposedly condemn Protestantism, they still love their heresy

Assuming non-inspiration

 

Specifically:

All things are lawful

 

Directly Ignoring / Disobeying the Bible

Deu_22:

Mat_19:

1Co_7:

Heb_13:4

 

key words to confront in this article:

silent

All things are lawful

 

PSA ≠ mightiness, but indulgence/participation

 

Mightiness to not marry is only “mighty” if one abstains from all PSA, otherwise, it is essentially effortless…

 

Thess: Imitate the Jews in purity

 

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For example, the Catholic Catechism states,

By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. "Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action." (Catechism of the Catholic Church, copyright 1994, p. 564, #2352)

 

One Catholic web site plainly posts,

Masturbation is against the biblical teachings which always talks about sex with respect in the marriage context and to have children. To pursue sexual pleasure or orgasm in manner not associated with marital intercourse that is love-giving and open to the creation of new life violates the will of God and is immoral. (www.biblia.com/sex/masturbation.htm)

According to the Jewish Virtual Library, masturbation is strictly forbidden.

Jewish law clearly prohibits male masturbation. This law is derived from the story of Onan (Gen. 38:8-10), who practiced coitus interruptus as a means of birth control to avoid fathering a child for his deceased brother. G-d killed Onan for this sin. Although Onan's act was not truly masturbation, Jewish law takes a very broad view of the acts prohibited by this passage, and forbids any act of ha-sh'cha'tat zerah (destruction of the seed), that is, ejaculation outside of the vagina. In fact, the prohibition is so strict that one passage in the Talmud states, "in the case of a man, the hand that reaches below the navel should be chopped off." (Niddah 13a) (www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/sex.html)

Onan "emitted" (NKJV, more literally, "ruined") on the ground. Indeed, Onan ruined or destroyed his seed on the ground, but there is a reason given as to why he did this:

lest he should give an heir [literally, "seed"] to his brother. (Genesis_38:9)

Bud and Betty Miller of Christ Unlimited Ministries teach that masturbation is self-abuse and sexually immoral citing 1 Corinthians_6:18 (http://bible.com/answers/amasturb.html).

 

Bible Media Online, an ecumenical ministry in South Africa, argues,

The Bible gives us no direct answer to the question. It does not even mention masturbation. But we can deduct from Scripture principles that masturbation is an unnatural sexual practice. It is not according to the purpose of God who gave sex as a gift to be used between a man and his lawful wife, within the marriage bond only. Any other deliberate sexual act, where true love is not the main driving force, is unnatural. (www.bmedia.co.za/faq/masturbation.htm, bold added)

Colossians_3:5 says to put to death "passion."

Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, (etc. Colossians_3:5).

Also, Galatians_5:24 says,

Those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. (Galatians_5:24)

[and heretic points out:]

What passions are being spoken of here? Sinful passions (Romans_7:5) and vile passions (Romans_1:26) are what have been crucified and are to be put to death. Passion, in and of itself, is not evil. Otherwise, the passion found between a married couple would also have to be put to death. But, on the contrary, Scripture cultivates this passion (see the Song of Solomon and Proverbs_5:19), and never identifies self sexual gratification as an evil passion or lust.

 

[and heretic points out:]

 

What about "uncleanness" (Colossians_3:5)? Doesn't the law identify masturbation, or at least the result of it, unclean? Yes it does.

If any man has an emission of semen, then he shall wash all his body in water, and be unclean until evening. And any garment and any leather on which there is semen, it shall be washed with water, and be unclean until evening. (Leviticus_15:16-17; see also verse 32)

[and heretic points out:]

Heterosexual intercourse is not in view here, because that comes in the following verse (verse 18). Therefore, there are two ways in which this "emission of semen" could happen. The ejaculation could be the result of a wet dream, "some occurrence in the night" (NKJV Deuteronomy_23:10; NAS "nocturnal emission," Hebrew, miqqerêh-lâylâh). Or, it could be the result of masturbation. Either way, the man is "unclean" until evening…

[and heretic points out:]

In the law, people are called unclean, but they have done nothing evil (Romans_14:14; Colossians_2:20-22), in and of itself (e.g. Leviticus_11:39; 15:5-8, 10-11, 19-23, 27; 17:15). In fact, in Numbers_19:7-8, 10, & 22, there they are obeying God's command, yet they become “unclean.” Also, the very next verse classifies people who have been involved in heterosexual intercourse as unclean as well (Leviticus_15:18)

[and heretic points out:]

Moreover, Leviticus also says a woman who has a period is unclean (Leviticus_15:19-24). Does that make having a period evil? Leviticus also says when a woman has a discharge of blood other than her period she is unclean (Leviticus_15:25-30). Does that make such activity evil? Also, in the same verses that speak of uncleaness via an emission of semen, it also says you are unclean if you touch a corpse, an insect, or someone who is unclean (Leviticus_22:4-5). Does that mean it is evil to touch a corpse, or an insect, or someone who is unclean? Since Jesus touched a leper (Mark_1:41), and a leper is unclean (Leviticus_13:44), did Jesus sin? The answer to these questions should be obvious.

1 Thessalonians_4:3-8?

This is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality; that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in passion of lust, like the Gentiles who do not know God; that no one should take advantage of and defraud his brother in this matter, because the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also forewarned you and testified. For God did not call us to uncleanness, but in holiness. Therefore he who rejects this does not reject man, but God, who has also given us His Holy Spirit. (1 Thessalonians_4:3-8)

[and heretic says:]

These are some serious words to heed (Psalm_119:60)! But, again, what is being spoken of is sexual immorality, and masturbation is never identified as such. Someone may argue, "masturbation is not 'in sanctification and in honor.'"

[and heretic says:]

Evil Thoughts Are Evil

Wicked men have debased minds that are filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, and evil-mindedness (Romans_1:28-29). They are "past feeling" and "have given themselves over to lewdness, to work all uncleanness" (Ephesians_4:19). Therefore, it is no wonder that masturbation would be greatly abused and misused.

Jesus said,

You have heard that it was said to those of old, "You shall not commit adultery." But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. (Matthew_5:27-28)

[and heretic says:]

Jesus made it clear that adultery can be committed in the heart, even though no physical intercourse has taken place. "The imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth," (Genesis_8:21) so it would not be surprising to find evil masturbatic activity rampant in society. Masturbation with evil imaginations, which could include the use of pornographic material, is most certainly wicked (see also Job_31:1-4; Proverbs_6:25).

[and heretic says:]

But, masturbation, in and of itself, does not demand such evil thoughts. To say it does, goes beyond what is written (1 Corinthians_4:6), adds to the word of God (Proverbs_30:5-6), and denies Biblical freedom in Christ (Colossians_2:20-22).

[and heretic perversely says:]

Paul wrote,

All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful. (1 Corinthians_10:23)

Masturbation is lawful.

Paul point blank says "All things are lawful,"

Finally, Paul said, "All things are lawful, but not all things are helpful." Can masturbation be helpful? Certainly, it can be helpful in alleviating the sexual drive, as long as it is done with pure thoughts, as it is written, "To the pure, all things are pure" (Titus_1:15). A godly person, motivated by a godly motive, certainly could masturbate without it being sinful or self-seeking. For example, a man of God wanting to alleviate the sexual drive in his striving to be pure and not wanting to be in a vulnerable position for temptation towards sexual immorality via pent-up sexual desires, could certainly masturbate with this in mind (wanting to be sexually pure) and it would be pure. Nothing in the word of God condemns this.

 

>> Truth says: Paul said: get married, and otherwise Jesus said: start cutting things off to stay pure if needed, and heretics say: be immoral…

[and heretic says:]

Such a regulation of "Do not touch, . . . do not handle" your genitals, i.e. do not masturbate, is a commandment and doctrine of men. It may very well have the appearance of wisdom, but no such "wisdom" is found in the word of God. It is the wisdom of the world, which God calls foolishness (1 Corinthians_3:19); and it is indeed "self-imposed religion." It may very well result in "neglect of the body," that is, the body that is crying out for relief! It is also of "no value against the indulgence of the flesh."

"believers, who have the Holy Spirit (Galatians_5:23, "self-control"), should be able to overcome in such a situation." On the contrary, Scripture identifies Spirit filled married people as those who lack self-control in this area (1 Corinthians_7:5).

 

[and heretic says:]

The sexual desire is a God given desire (Romans_11:36) and it is not evil in and of itself (Romans_14:14). Moreover, God has made a way for even those who are not married (male or female), or those who are away from their spouse (like a soldier at war), to at least somewhat satisfy the sexual drive via masturbation. It is oppressive to teach that such an act is against the will of God

"If it is to marry, then is teaching an unmarried person to masturbate, instead of marrying, adding to the scripture (Proverbs_30:5-6) of 1 Corinthians_7:9?"

"Do you think Jesus had control over His sexual passion or did He “burn with sexual passion” (1 Corinthians_7:9)?"

 

 

 

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Masturbation – The indulgence in forbidden fornication is not suddenly lawful just because you do it by yourself

The Gratification of lust is still evil

~2010; 9/25/11; 5/30/13; 7/12/13

 

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PSA is Worse than “Not Good”

"it is not good for man to be alone" (gen2) means that God intentionally designed man in such a way that he could not handle his own nature "alone" in a good way. This fundamentally assignes all attempts at meeting sexual needs "alone" as "not good". This is actually extremely clear and direct from the Scriptures without any exaggeration. Adam is already very far from PSA, just knowing that it is "not good" for him to simply sit there "alone" with such enormius needs, and because he is already in "not good" trouble just by his very nature of being a man and being alone, he does not even need to be told not to multiply evil by indulging in something that is "not good". It would be pure insanity to sugest that Adam would agressively despise God and inhance that "not good" effect by abusing his sexuality before God made him a "very good" solution in Eve. Adam can and absolutely must wait, and oh wow, she is worth the wait! Remember, Adam has not sinned yet, so he is not about to go mocking God when God just said 'this is not good...' Forbiden fruit is for those who want to sin, but for those who love God, knowing that "alone" sexuality is "not good", we have enough information to make us rather die than to defy God by premature indulgence by loving what is "not good"!

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7/12/13 – A Whole Summary of Why PSA is Immoral

 

 

If emission were a lawful biological need outside of marriage, then it would not be wrong to activate your own sexuality and partake of sexual lust on your own. But since the Bible say not to do this, we know that both are not good. Just as the law indicates that it is sexually “unclean”, it is not a good thing for emission to happen outside of marriage.

 

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12/7/14

"It is not good for man to be alone"

 

Solution was not bestiality, or even psa, but all gener needs were solved by creating a woman. From the very beginning God said that everything in the realm of man dealing with his own sexuality alone was "not good". It left man alone and exposed to gaping gender needs that would not be lawful to meet in any other way except if God made a woman out of Adam's side.

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No PSA

 

9/14/14

sexual sin does not start when you involve someone else in your lust, as though your body is free to burn on its own and desire whatever it feels a need for. But rather fornication starts with internally activating the individual hurts, passions, lusts themselves before ever interfacing another person.

A child is very capable of lust and perversion long before they understand how to desire the oposit gender.

Your bodies are not your own

Eph/etc.: Mordify the desires on earth... Fornication -- TSK

Gal 2 & 5: Those who are anointed One's... Have crucified...

A woman was stoned for hiding psa, and usually not if discovered before marriage.

Mat15 fornication starts in the heart

 

Bbs: purity Pro: PSA:

7/12/13

PSA is wrong because...

for men:

 

- in Mat_5:27 Jesus said to avoid lust at all costs, even if it comes to *cutting off body parts*! This is not a partial satisfying of sexual desire, but a ruthless crucifiction of it! Cutting off body parts that make you lust leaves absolutly no room for PSA - and this is in the foundational proclamation of the SOM! It is extremely obvios that Jesus teaches a hard-core and even self-violent war against all lust, even to the point (if necisary) of cuting of body parts that cause lust.

 

- in Mat19:10-11 Jesus again said that if you do not marry, and you remain in celebacy, the only answer was to make yourself into a unic. If you were still wndering what Jesus refers to in Mat 5, now He talks more specifically by using the word "unic"

)) look up Greek!

 *unics do not have the capacity to do PSA !!!* ---

 

The only alternative to making yourself a unic in Mat 19 is getting married, because Jesus says that all men are not able recieve the teaching on excelency of celabacy, so the only solution for them is to get married.

Men and women:

 

- law of Moses commands the Jews to consider sexual emitions outside of marriage to be unclean. Obviously, they were to gaurd against this happening, and to do it intentionally is morally absurd! - to what degree does this apply to us today, now that Paul has commanded us to be like the Jews in demanding sexual purity?

For women:

 

- in Deu 22 if a woman had been involved in PSA, she could have torn her hymen, and if so, she would be stoned as a harlot. There is no room for a woman to do PSA when it is obviosly expected that her sexual organ is to be absolutly preserved, *as a true vergine* and she must produce blood on the wedding night as proof that she has not been "used" or sexually active privious to this. Any discrepence or slightest suspition that she had been sexually active was brought before the rabinical courts and she could be put to death if found indulgent. This is commanded in the Torah, was practiced in Judaism, and even recorded in explicet detail in court case after detailed court case in the Talmud.

 

- in Song of songs, she is an enclosed garden, and a sealed fountain, with many good things laid up for him. "Sealed" shows that she is a very true virgine, because he would unseal her sexual organ in marriage, and suppose if you buy milk and find that the lid has already been opened, you do not trust it and you take it back for a refund, because you suspect that it has been contaminated. So also with the seal and proof of a woman's viginity.

 

When she says "laid up for you" it is clear that she is waiting for sexual activity, because PSA is clearly *not waiting* or storing up chastity for marriage

 

- truly, as others have said, throughout all of history Monotheism (esp. Judaism) has chanelled all sexuality into marriage. Everything else is abominated to God.

 

- Paul says to crucify the passions, not indulge in them! Sexual needs are obviously passions, and we are to kill them, not partake in them!

 

- 1co 7 and Heb_13:4 are absolutely clear that marriage is the only solution to avoiding fornication, if you do not have the favoring gift of celibacy (which Jesus called, being a unic). 1co7 specifically says, if you do not have mightyness, that marriage is the only way to avoid fornication. PSA is not even concieved of as a partial solution. This might be the modern answer for how to survive as a single, but God's answer is clearly marriage. No other solution is provided except the spiritual gift of celebacy.

 

He also even says to the married to "come together quickly so that the Satan does not temt you" -- when you are not experiencing marriage for a short season, it is only for fasting - fasting clearly means "not eating" and Paul clearly teaches that, even for the married, if you sit in a room by yourself too long, you might get temted by sexual thoughts. So paul learly says 'quickly run back to the marriae bed' (come to gether quickly) so that you are not tempted with sexual needs when you are away from your lawful spouse.

- in the same way, Heb_13:4 only gives 3 categories of sexual activity:

The (lawful) Marriage, Fornication, Adultery.

 

PSA does not fit in lawful marriage. If you commit PSA God will judge you, just like Paul says 'don't be decieved... For this reason the wrath of God comes on the children of disobedience'.

- don't be decieved... Fornicators will not make it!

 

5/30/13 – PSA

Jesus said going without marriage means *being a unic*. Unics do not practice PSA. In the same way, Paul said that marriage was the only lawful solution to "burning" under the temptation of prostitutes. Jesus did not say you could "find relief" from lust by PSA but instead He put forward the alternative of cutting off body parts! Pro says find refuge in the wife of your youth to be kept from the immoral woman, and likewise Paul says "let each man have his own woman".

 

 

Anything else means cutting off your own body parts to live as a unic. Unics do not go off in secret and activte their own sexuality. They have killed their seuality, and this crucifiction is the only solution to liveing pure outside of marriage.

 

 

-- note: we all know Jesus lived as a virgine, and you know that Jesus did not practice PSA, and you know your own shameful practice of it defys following His example, and makes you very much, not like Jesus.

 

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The solution to sexual temptation before and after marriage, is marriage (1Co 7)! It even talks about temptation during fasting, and still says the only lawful answer to this is 'coming together again quickly' to your wife (notice you cannot even 'meet your own needs' while away).

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Many are missing the vey basic realities:

- Problem is not just with the physical act, but with the heart that goes in that direction before you even go into the action

- If it is about the heart, then it not necisarily about the involvement of another person in the act, but involvement of lust in your heart in the act

 

- PSG mimics doing what is unlawful apart from marriage (it is is still in your heart)

 

Lust = desire

we all know that we lust because we hurt

we do PSA to comfort our hert and satisfy our desire

There is a good version of this: "Issack was comforted after the death of his mother"

 

But there is also a bad version of this:

 

Passions of lust

 

By default, it is bad and defiled. But lest you should think marriage is bad too we are given Hebrews:

marriage bed undefile

this is why it makes sense:

issack was comforted

 

everything outside of this one lawful context is defiling indulgence of apitite, and the violating evil and falsifying comfort of lust:

let us solace ourselves

 

 

so what we often miss is the very basic foundation of what lust is:

 

Lust = desire, and passions of lust is a clear reference to the emotion hurting that crys out to be comforted ("passions") and sexuality was designed to comfort that hurting paine, but only in marriage! Every other description of lustful desire from passion is always described as sin in the Scriptures.

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whatever things are good nobal, just pure

- is it clean?

- Is it noble?

- Rom_13:13 let us walk in the day (sensuality is forbiden)

(Rom_6:13)

 

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1Co 7 - solution to fornication is marriage, not PSA

Mariage is the only sexual outlet that is undefiled

let them practice: SELF CONTROL! PSA is not self control

 

1Thes - posses your own vessle

-PSA is a lcak of self control

- 'not in the passion of lust'

- Why do you do it? "Don't tell me there is no lust involved"

 

 

Heb_16:9 – marriag bed is the only purity

- ask yourself: is personal sexual activity (PSA) closer within what is "honorable" or "shameful"

- in the Bible, they appealed to shame to indicate and point to what is not of truth!

- What fruit... the things you are now ashamed? ...these things result in death

- we have renounced the hidden works of darkness

- there is no command in Hebrews to honor the inheritently shameful activity of PSA

 

Greatest proof: Tearing of the hymen = fornication (Deu 22)

It could have been...

- by a man

- by an animal

- by her self

 

In all cases, there is no blood because she has been sexually active, and penitrated, and is legally not a virgine. She is automatically categorised as having committed fornication (porneia) as having sex before marriage, for all purposes of sociall accountibility given by God.

 

There is no room for prsonal sexual activity outside of "fornication" acording to Deu 22.

 

Mat_5:27-28 - is it possible to have personal sexual activity without immages?

- even if you can avoid images at the moment, crumbling into the desire makes you lustful toward females later, because you have embraced the overall problem: lust

 

If so, why do you think you are off the hook simply because another person is not involved?

Isn't your body sexual?

Isn't PSA the opposit of a "closed up" and "sealed fountain" that song of songs charges us to?

How will you explain this to the society that is ready to stone the woman in Deu 22?

 

Suicide = Hell

because killing yourself is no less murder than killing another

is personal imorality lust? (desire)

- If you lust after your own body, it is still lust (desire)

1 Co 6 - Flee fornication... lusting after your own body is still lust... it goes toward sex before marriage, not away from it

 

food for the stomatch, stomach for food

all thing lawful for me = if it does not say it is bad, then it is ok

- Paul opposes this assumtion

- Jesus says, on the contrary, I only do what God tells me is right

 

beat my body so not disqualified

- is body under control?

 

Tit 3 - slaves to desires

Rom 8 - put to death the deeds of the body

- Those who are christs have crucified the flesh, with its passions (hurt-based sins) and desires

 

 

Flee Passages

8/18/05 (original title: FLEE!; +Word: Created/Modified); 2/21/17 (recompiled)

 

Tim_2:22  Flee also youthful lusts: but peruse  righteousness, faith, Love, and peace, with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart, (KJV-Based).

 

1Co_6:18-20 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits fornication sins against his own body.

 

1Tim_5:1-2 Don't rebuke an older man, but exhort him as a father; the younger men as brothers; 2  the elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity. (KJV-Based)

 

Job_31:1 WEB  "I made a covenant with my eyes, How then should I look lustfully at a young woman?

 

Mat_5:27-30 WEB  "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall not commit adultery;'   28  but I tell you that everyone who gazes at a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.   29  If your right eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it away from you. For it is profitable for you that one of your members should perish, than for your whole body to be cast into Gehenna [Hell].   30  If your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off, and throw it away from you: for it is profitable for you that one of your members should perish, and not your whole body be thrown into Gehenna [Hell].

 

Pro_6:25 Don't lust after her beauty in your heart, Neither let her captivate you with her eyelids.

26  For a prostitute reduces you to a piece of bread. The adulteress hunts for your precious life.  27  Can a man scoop fire into his lap, And his clothes not be burned? (WEB, Also read verses 23-35).

 

Pro_5:12 Remove your way far from her. Don't come near the door of her house, (WEB).

 

Gal_5:24 WEB  Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts

[or desires].

 

Extra Anti-Flirtation Scripture:

 

Isa_3:16-24  Moreover the Lord said, "Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, And walk with outstretched necks and flirting eyes, Walking to trip as they go, Jingling ornaments on their feet;  17  Therefore the Lord brings sores on the crown of the head of the women of Zion, And the Lord will make their scalps bald." 18  In that day the Lord will take away the beauty of their anklets, the headbands, the crescent necklaces, 19  the earrings, the bracelets, the veils, 20  the headdresses, the ankle chains, the sashes, the perfume bottles, the charms, 21  the signet rings, the nose rings, 22  the fine robes, the capes, the cloaks, the purses, 23  the hand-mirrors, the fine linen garments, the hoods, and the shawls. 24  It shall happen that instead of sweet spices, there shall be rottenness; Instead of a belt, a rope; Instead of well set hair, baldness; Instead of a robe, a girding of sackcloth; And branding instead of beauty. (WEB-Based)

 

 

Common Assumptions and Misconceptions about Romance

Ask yourself if you have said or thought anything like these common excuses before. See if you can relate to any of these statements. – Hopefully you will not relate to all of these statements.

 

List

  1. I'm over 18 now, so I can make my own decisions.
  2. It's my body and my life. I can do what I want with it. [But, God is even offended at Sodom who didn't redemptively “belong” to Him. God, Parents, and brothers do own you. Parents and brothers are socially responsible for your purity]
  3. If we love each other it is OK [But Dut 22 treats it as a crime]
  4. We are married in God's eyes, so it's OK [But such were criminals in the Bible. I've had a family member commit fornication with this excuse]
  5. If we are not hurting anyone else, so it is OK
  6. Our relationship is pure because we are committed to each other [Pat's story]
  7. If our parents did it when they were dating, it must be OK for us too.
  8. It can't be sin if everyone else in church is doing it. Are you saying that they are all in sin?
  9. Even if everyone else is doing it wrong, our relationship is pure because we are the exception.  We don't go too far when we get alone in the car. [The typical “I'm Special” syndrome.]
  10. We're being responsible.  We are mature enough to be alone and still do what's right.
  11. We are keeping each other accountable to be pure about our relationship
  12. I can handle the temptation. I will not let myself fall if I go this far in my relationship.
  13. It would be wrong to flirt around with any and everybody, but if we are dating, it's OK to “flirt” with your significant other.
  14. The Bible does not say you will go to Hell for kissing/etc.... [or fill in the blank... but compare Thessalonians below]
  15. Pursuing romance before marriage is OK, as long as you don't go too far.
  16. We’re not doing anything wrong... we're not having sex or nothing. [but would you do that with your sister/brother?]
  17. We need to spend a lot of time together to see if we are compatible.  You've got to test drive a car to see if you want to buy it. [But consider being: “Single indeed”]
  18. It's OK to date someone as long as they are a christian.
  19. You'll never get married if you don't date around to find the right person.
  20. You have to get to know someone before you get married, or else you will never get married at all! -- [But this turns into, “You've got to get to know someone romantically before you marry them”]
  21. How are you going to find a spouse unless you are looking? Doesn't it say, “He who finds a wife finds a good thing” [but “finds” in Hebrew is in the sense of finding by accident]
  22. Dating is a normal healthy part of being socially well adjusted.
  23. If I don't date, my emotional needs won't be met. I won't be fulfilled if I don't date.
  24. God wants me to be happy! [...As though He would never have you to suffer?]

 

Home Work

Home Work

Isa_3:16-24, (compare with 1Ti_2:9); 1Ti_5:1-2; 1Th_4:2-9

 

Extra

1Co_7:1              “...It is good for a man not to touch a woman”

1Co_7:32, 34-35 “...that you may wait on the Lord without distraction,” (1Cor_7:35 c).

1Co_7:36-38       These were engaged unwedded men and women

Mat_1:18-19       Joseph and Marry didn't even talk when they were engaged

Gen_24:63-67     Isaac & Rebeca had 1 verse to “get to know each other” before they married

 

Culture

Jesus and His appointed followers authenticated (that is, they approved of and made valid) the extreme purity standards of their day, as well as making the standard higher.

We would be foolish to simply except the perverted Westernized loose standards in our culture today, whether in or outside the church.  We would be foolish not to question and continually reevaluate and renovate our default assumptions about romance by searching the Scriptures.

 

Realize the implications of Mat_5:27-31!

Also consider the impact and meaning of Isa_3:16-24.

 

What does this say about what we expect as normal dating practices?

 

Pro_6:25 WEB Don't lust after her beauty in your heart, Neither let her captivate you with her eyelids.

 

(Also read verses 23-35)

 

Jesus said that looking to lust was adultery, but here we can see that lust can even include looking at the beauty of a woman!

 

Flirtation with many people or with one person, it is the same sin

We who follow the Bible are not just against emotional (heart) fornication with the multiple attractive people that we interact with in life, but we are also against monogamous heart-prostitution with only one significant other.  Our premarital “commitment” to another person does not excuse us the purity-boundary (and standard) of brothers and sisters, nor does it release us from the responsibility and obligation to be “without distraction” and “single indeed.”

 

Fornication Realization

Realize: If sleeping around with various people is wrong, so is wishing to do so in your heart by flirting with them. And if sleeping with one person apart from marriage is wrong, so is doing so in your heart by flirtation and stirring up romance which cannot lawfully be fulfilled. 

 

Rth_3:10-11 …you did not follow young men, whether poor or rich.  11  …For all the city of my people knows that you are a woman of virtue.

 

 

Redeeming Immorality

1/9/26

 

The Hope of Redemption

·         Children of fornication can be redeemed into greatness.

·         God can redeem fornication, even despite horribly bad motives of lust for sexual murder.

·         In some kind of surprising way, God is involved in redeeming all prostitution and immorality for His glory, despite all of the evil motives of the men and women who commit such horrible crimes.

·         After escaping all such sin, you can make it into God’s greatness by faith.

 

Preview

·         Jdg_11/Heb_11 (Jephthah); 2Sa_12 (David); Gen_38 (Tamar & Judah)

·         Rahab & Genealogies (Mat_1)

 

Jephthah: Born by Prostitution; Redeemed into Greatness!

1/9/26

 

(1) Jephthah Driven Away & Brought Back

Jdg_11:1 WEB  Now Jephthah the Gileadite was a mighty man of valor, and he was the son of a prostitute: and Gilead became the father of Jephthah.

Jdg_11:1 LB  Jephthah And Jephthah the Gileadite was a mighty man; and he was the son of a harlot [αὐτὸς υἱὸς γυναικὸς πόρνης], who bore Jephthah to Gilead. [ἣ ἐγέννησεν τῷ Γαλααδ τὸν Ιεφθαε]

Jdg_11:1  Καὶ Ιεφθαε ὁ Γαλααδίτης ἐπηρμένος δυνάμει· καὶ αὐτὸς υἱὸς γυναικὸς πόρνης, ἣ ἐγέννησεν τῷ Γαλααδ τὸν Ιεφθαε.

Jdg_11:2 WEB  Gilead's wife bore him sons; and when his wife's sons grew up, they drove out Jephthah, and said to him, You shall not inherit in our father's house; for you are the son of another woman. [think: Abraham sending other children away…]

>>Scrip: /\/\

Jdg_11:2 And the wife of Gilead bore him sons; and the sons of his wife grew up, and they cast out Jephthah, and said to him, “You shall not inherit in the house of our father, for you are the son of a concubine [????].” [υἱὸς γυναικὸς ἑταίρας σύ]

Jdg_11:2  καὶ ἔτεκεν ἡ γυνὴ Γαλααδ αὐτῷ υἱούς· καὶ ἡδρύνθησαν οἱ υἱοὶ τῆς γυναικὸς καὶ ἐξέβαλον τὸν Ιεφθαε καὶ εἶπαν αὐτῷ Οὐ κληρονομήσεις ἐν τῷ οἴκῳ τοῦ πατρὸς ἡμῶν, ὅτι υἱὸς γυναικὸς ἑταίρας σύ.

Jdg_11:3 WEB  Then Jephthah fled from his brothers, and lived in the land of Tob: and there were gathered vain fellows to Jephthah, and they went out with him.

Jdg_11:3 And Jephthah fled from the face of his brothers, and dwelt in the land of Tob; and worthless men gathered to Jephthah, and went out with him.

Jdg_11:3  καὶ ἔφυγεν Ιεφθαε ἀπὸ προσώπου ἀδελφῶν αὐτοῦ καὶ ᾤκησεν ἐν γῇ Τωβ, καὶ συνεστράφησαν πρὸς Ιεφθαε ἄνδρες κενοὶ καὶ ἐξῆλθον μετ᾿ αὐτοῦ.

Jdg_11:4 WEB  It happened after a while, that the children of Ammon made war against Israel.

Jdg_11:4 And it came to pass when the children of Ammon prepared to fight with Israel,

[Jdg_11:4 ABP-G+  καιG2532 εγενετοG1096 μεθ΄G3326 ημεραςG2250 καιG2532 επολεμησανG4170 οιG3588 υιοιG5207 ΑμμωνG* μεταG3326 ΙσραηλG* καιG2532 εγενηθηG1096 ηνικαG2259 επολεμησανG4170 οιG3588 υιοιG5207 ΑμμωνG* μεταG3326 ΙσραηλG*]

Jdg_11:5 WEB  It was so, that when the children of Ammon made war against Israel, the elders of Gilead went to get Jephthah out of the land of Tob;

Jdg_11:5 that the elders of Gilead went to fetch Jephthah from the land of Tob.

Jdg_11:5  Καὶ ἐγένετο ἡνίκα παρετάξαντο οἱ υἱοὶ Αμμων μετὰ Ισραηλ, καὶ ἐπορεύθησαν οἱ πρεσβύτεροι Γαλααδ λαβεῖν τὸν Ιεφθαε ἀπὸ τῆς γῆς Τωβ

Jdg_11:6 WEB  and they said to Jephthah, Come and be our chief, that we may fight with the children of Ammon.

Jdg_11:6 And they said to Jephthah, “Come and be our leader, and we will fight with the sons of Ammon.”

Jdg_11:6  καὶ εἶπαν τῷ Ιεφθαε Δεῦρο καὶ ἔσῃ ἡμῖν εἰς ἀρχηγόν, καὶ παραταξώμεθα πρὸς υἱοὺς Αμμων.

Jdg_11:7 WEB  Jephthah said to the elders of Gilead, Didn't you hate me, and drive me out of my father's house? and why have you come to me now when you are in distress?

Jdg_11:7 And Jephthah said to the elders of Gilead, “Did you not hate me, and cast me out of my father’s house, and banish me from you? And why have you come to me now, when you need me?”

Jdg_11:7  καὶ εἶπεν Ιεφθαε τοῖς πρεσβυτέροις Γαλααδ Οὐχὶ ὑμεῖς ἐμισήσατέ με καὶ ἐξεβάλετέ με ἐκ τοῦ οἴκου τοῦ πατρός μου καὶ ἐξαπεστείλατέ με ἀφ᾿ ὑμῶν; καὶ διὰ τί ἤλθατε πρός με νῦν, ἡνίκα χρῄζετε;

Jdg_11:8 WEB  The elders of Gilead said to Jephthah, Therefore are we turned again to you now, that you may go with us, and fight with the children of Ammon; and you shall be our head over all the inhabitants of Gilead.

Jdg_11:8 And the elders of Gilead said to Jephthah, “Therefore have we now turned to you, that you should go with us, and fight against the sons of Ammon, and be our leader over all the inhabitants of Gilead.”

Jdg_11:8  καὶ εἶπαν οἱ πρεσβύτεροι Γαλααδ πρὸς Ιεφθαε Διὰ τοῦτο νῦν ἐπεστρέψαμεν πρὸς σέ, καὶ πορεύσῃ μεθ᾿ ἡμῶν καὶ παρατάξῃ πρὸς υἱοὺς Αμμων· καὶ ἔσῃ ἡμῖν εἰς ἄρχοντα, πᾶσιν τοῖς οἰκοῦσιν Γαλααδ.

Jdg_11:9 WEB  Jephthah said to the elders of Gilead, If you bring me home again to fight with the children of Ammon, and Yahweh deliver them before me, shall I be your head?

Jdg_11:9 And Jephthah said to the elders of Gilead, “If you turn me back to fight with the children of Ammon, and the Lord should deliver them before me, then will I be your leader.”

Jdg_11:9  καὶ εἶπεν Ιεφθαε πρὸς τοὺς πρεσβυτέρους Γαλααδ Εἰ ἐπιστρέφετέ με ὑμεῖς παρατάξασθαι ἐν υἱοῖς Αμμων καὶ παραδῷ κύριος αὐτοὺς ἐνώπιον ἐμοῦ, καὶ ἐγὼ ἔσομαι ὑμῖν εἰς ἄρχοντα.

Jdg_11:10 WEB  The elders of Gilead said to Jephthah, Yahweh shall be witness between us; surely [Heb. if-not = oath] according to your word so will we do.

Jdg_11:10 And the elders of Gilead said to Jephthah, “The Lord be witness between us [Κύριος ἔστω ἀκούων ἀνὰ μέσον ἡμῶν], if we shall not [εἰ μὴ – if-not = oath] do according to your word.”

Jdg_11:10  καὶ εἶπαν οἱ πρεσβύτεροι Γαλααδ πρὸς Ιεφθαε Κύριος ἔστω ἀκούων ἀνὰ μέσον ἡμῶν, εἰ μὴ κατὰ τὸ ῥῆμά σου οὕτως ποιήσομεν.

Jdg_11:11 WEB  Then Jephthah went with the elders of Gilead, and the people made him head and chief over them: and Jephthah spoke all his words before Yahweh in Mizpah.

Jdg_11:11 And Jephthah went with the elders of Gilead, and the people made him head and ruler over them. And Jephthah spoke all his words before the Lord in Mizpah.

Jdg_11:11  καὶ ἐπορεύθη Ιεφθαε μετὰ τῶν πρεσβυτέρων Γαλααδ, καὶ ἔθηκαν αὐτὸν ὁ λαὸς ἐπ᾿ αὐτοὺς εἰς κεφαλὴν καὶ εἰς ἀρχηγόν. καὶ ἐλάλησεν Ιεφθαε τοὺς λόγους αὐτοῦ πάντας ἐνώπιον κυρίου ἐν Μασσηφα.

 

(2) Jephthah = Savior

Jdg_11:12-40 – Jephthah goes on to Save Israel

·         Jdg_11:12-28 – Jephthah recites history -- NO liberal historical revisionism!

·         Jephthah References Monotheistic God: (A) in Israel: Jdg_11:11-12, (B) To Pagans: Jdg_11:21-27 (C) In “Prayer”/Oath: Jdg_11:29-36

·         Jdg_11:29 – Jephthah Inspired!

·         Jdg_11:30-40 – Jephthah's Tragic Commitment

 

(3) Jephthah in “the Hall of Faith”

Heb_11:32 CAB  And what more should I say? For the time would fail me to tell of Gideon, both Barak and Samson and Jephthah, both David and Samuel and the prophets:

Heb_11:32  Καὶ τί ἔτι λέγω; ἐπιλείψει γὰρ με διηγούμενον ὁ χρόνος περὶ Γεδεών, Βαράκ τε καὶ Σαμψών καὶ ᾿Ιεφθάε, Δαυΐδ τε καὶ Σαμουὴλ καὶ τῶν προφητῶν,

Heb_11:32  και τι ετι λεγω επιλειψει TSBγαρ με Aγαρ διηγουμενον ο χρονος περι γεδεων βαρακ TSBτε TSBκαι σαμψων TSBκαι ιεφθαε BAδαυιδ TSδαβιδ τε και σαμουηλ και των προφητων

Heb_11:38 of whom the world was not worthy, wandering in deserts and mountains and caves, and the holes of the earth.

Heb_11:38  ὧν οὐκ ἦν ἄξιος ὁ κόσμος, ἐν ἐρημίαις πλανώμενοι καὶ ὄρεσι καὶ σπηλαίοις καὶ ταῖς ὀπαῖς τῆς γῆς.

Heb_11:38  ων ουκ ην αξιος ο κοσμος Aεπι TSBεν ερημιαις πλανωμενοι και ορεσιν και σπηλαιοις και ταις οπαις της γης

 

The Point: Jephthah could have initially seemed shameful, rough (Jdg_11:3), and even doomed from being born of prostitution (Jdg_11:1-2), yet God’s name inspired him with saving zeal to deliver Israel and make it in the Hall of faith!

 

David’s Child by Adultery

1/9/26

Comp. SRP > David Rebuked & Thankful & PUR > Redeeming Immorality

Sin-Repentance-Perfection.htm#DavidRebukedAndThankful

Purity-Proclamation.htm#RedeemingImmorality

 

David Cared: David cared very deeply for his child by adultery, even though the child was initially illegitimate, and died in judgement

 

2Sa_12:14-23 – child by adultery died, David Cared deeply

 

Learning form David’s Example: David showed that it was right to care deeply for your son, even if he was generated by sin.

 

[David Confronted]

2Sa_12:13 WEB  David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against Yahweh." Nathan said to David, "Yahweh also has put away your sin. You will not die.

2Sa_12:13 LB  And David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The Lord has put away your sin; you shall not die.

2Sa_12:13  καὶ εἶπεν Δαυιδ τῷ Ναθαν Ἡμάρτηκα τῷ κυρίῳ. καὶ εἶπεν Ναθαν πρὸς Δαυιδ Καὶ κύριος παρεβίβασεν τὸ ἁμάρτημά σου, οὐ μὴ ἀποθάνῃς·

2Sa_12:14 WEB  However, because by this deed you have given great occasion to Yahweh's enemies to blaspheme, the child also who is born to you shall surely die."

2Sa_12:14 Only because you have given great occasion of provocation to the enemies of the Lord by this thing, your son also that is born to you [ὁ υἱός σου ὁ τεχθείς σοι] shall surely die.” [θανάτῳ ἀποθανεῖται]

2Sa_12:14  πλὴν ὅτι παροξύνων παρώξυνας τοὺς ἐχθροὺς κυρίου ἐν τῷ ῥήματι τούτῳ, καί γε ὁ υἱός σου ὁ τεχθείς σοι θανάτῳ ἀποθανεῖται.

[David’s Son Dies]

2Sa_12:15 WEB  Nathan departed to his house. Yahweh struck the child that Uriah's wife bore to David, and it was very sick.

2Sa_12:15 And Nathan departed to his house. And the Lord struck the child, which the wife of Uriah the Hittite bore to David, and it was ill.

2Sa_12:15  καὶ ἀπῆλθεν Ναθαν εἰς τὸν οἶκον αὐτοῦ. Καὶ ἔθραυσεν κύριος τὸ παιδίον, ὃ ἔτεκεν ἡ γυνὴ Ουριου τῷ Δαυιδ, καὶ ἠρρώστησεν.

2Sa_12:16 WEB  David therefore begged God for the child; and David fasted, and went in, and lay all night on the earth.

2Sa_12:16 And David inquired [ἐζήτησεν] of God concerning the child, and David fasted, and went in and lay all night upon the ground. [ηὐλίσθη ἐν σάκκῳ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς]

2Sa_12:16  καὶ ἐζήτησεν Δαυιδ τὸν θεὸν περὶ τοῦ παιδαρίου, καὶ ἐνήστευσεν Δαυιδ νηστείαν καὶ εἰσῆλθεν καὶ ηὐλίσθη ἐν σάκκῳ ἐπὶ τῆς γῆς.

2Sa_12:17 WEB  The elders of his house arose, and stood beside him, to raise him up from the earth: but he would not, neither did he eat bread with them.

2Sa_12:17 And the elders of his house arose and went to him to raise him up from the ground, but he would not rise, nor did he eat bread with them.

2Sa_12:17  καὶ ἀνέστησαν ἐπ᾿ αὐτὸν οἱ πρεσβύτεροι τοῦ οἴκου αὐτοῦ τοῦ ἐγεῖραι αὐτὸν ἀπὸ τῆς γῆς, καὶ οὐκ ἠθέλησεν καὶ οὐ συνέφαγεν αὐτοῖς ἄρτον.

2Sa_12:18 WEB  It happened on the seventh day, that the child died. The servants of David feared to tell him that the child was dead; for they said, Behold, while the child was yet alive, we spoke to him, and he didn't listen to our voice: how will he then harm himself, if we tell him that the child is dead!

2Sa_12:18 And it came to pass on the seventh day that the child died. And the servants of David were afraid to tell him that the child was dead; for they said, “Behold, while the child was yet alive we spoke to him, and he would not listen to our voice; and should we tell him now that the child is dead?—for he would do himself harm.”

2Sa_12:18  καὶ ἐγένετο ἐν τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῇ ἑβδόμῃ καὶ ἀπέθανε τὸ παιδάριον· καὶ ἐφοβήθησαν οἱ δοῦλοι Δαυιδ ἀναγγεῖλαι αὐτῷ ὅτι τέθνηκεν τὸ παιδάριον, ὅτι εἶπαν Ἰδοὺ ἐν τῷ ἔτι τὸ παιδάριον ζῆν ἐλαλήσαμεν πρὸς αὐτόν, καὶ οὐκ εἰσήκουσεν τῆς φωνῆς ἡμῶν· καὶ πῶς εἴπωμεν πρὸς αὐτὸν ὅτι τέθνηκεν τὸ παιδάριον; καὶ ποιήσει κακά.

2Sa_12:19 WEB  But when David saw that his servants were whispering together, David perceived that the child was dead; and David said to his servants, Is the child dead? They said, He is dead.

2Sa_12:19 And David knew that his servants were whispering, and David perceived that the child was dead. And David said to his servants, “Is the child dead?” And they said, “He is dead.”

2Sa_12:19  καὶ συνῆκεν Δαυιδ ὅτι οἱ παῖδες αὐτοῦ ψιθυρίζουσιν, καὶ ἐνόησεν Δαυιδ ὅτι τέθνηκεν τὸ παιδάριον· καὶ εἶπεν Δαυιδ πρὸς τοὺς παῖδας αὐτοῦ Εἰ τέθνηκεν τὸ παιδάριον; καὶ εἶπαν Τέθνηκεν.

2Sa_12:20 WEB  Then David arose from the earth, and washed, and anointed himself, and changed his clothing; and he came into the house of Yahweh, and worshiped: then he came to his own house; and when he required, they set bread before him, and he ate.

2Sa_12:20 Then David rose up from the ground, and he washed and anointed himself, and changed his clothes, and went into the house of God, and worshipped Him. And he went into his own house, and called for bread to eat, and they set bread before him and he ate.

2Sa_12:20  καὶ ἀνέστη Δαυιδ ἐκ τῆς γῆς καὶ ἐλούσατο καὶ ἠλείψατο καὶ ἤλλαξεν τὰ ἱμάτια αὐτοῦ καὶ εἰσῆλθεν εἰς τὸν οἶκον τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ προσεκύνησεν αὐτῷ· καὶ εἰσῆλθεν εἰς τὸν οἶκον αὐτοῦ καὶ ᾔτησεν ἄρτον φαγεῖν, καὶ παρέθηκαν αὐτῷ ἄρτον, καὶ ἔφαγεν.

2Sa_12:21 WEB  Then said his servants to him, What thing is this that you have done? you fasted and wept for the child while he was alive; but when the child was dead, you rose up and ate bread.

2Sa_12:21 And his servants said to him, “What is this thing that you have done concerning the child? While the child was yet living you fasted and wept, and kept watch; but when the child was dead you rose up and ate bread, and drank.”

2Sa_12:21  καὶ εἶπαν οἱ παῖδες αὐτοῦ πρὸς αὐτόν Τί τὸ ῥῆμα τοῦτο, ὃ ἐποίησας; ἕνεκα τοῦ παιδαρίου ἔτι ζῶντος ἐνήστευες καὶ ἔκλαιες καὶ ἠγρύπνεις, καὶ ἡνίκα ἀπέθανεν τὸ παιδάριον, ἀνέστης καὶ ἔφαγες ἄρτον καὶ πέπωκας.

2Sa_12:22 WEB  He said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who knows whether Yahweh will not be gracious to me, that the child may live?

2Sa_12:22 And David said, “While the child yet lived, I fasted and wept; for I said, ‘Who knows if the Lord will pity me, and the child should live?’

2Sa_12:22  καὶ εἶπεν Δαυιδ Ἐν τῷ τὸ παιδάριον ἔτι ζῆν ἐνήστευσα καὶ ἔκλαυσα, ὅτι εἶπα Τίς οἶδεν εἰ ἐλεήσει με κύριος καὶ ζήσεται τὸ παιδάριον;

2Sa_12:23 WEB  But now he is dead, why should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he will not return to me.

2Sa_12:23 But now the child is dead, why should I fast thus? Shall I be able to bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.”

2Sa_12:23  καὶ νῦν τέθνηκεν· ἵνα τί τοῦτο ἐγὼ νηστεύω; μὴ δυνήσομαι ἐπιστρέψαι αὐτὸ ἔτι; ἐγὼ πορεύσομαι πρὸς αὐτόν, καὶ αὐτὸς οὐκ ἀναστρέψει πρός με.

[Solomon's Birth]

2Sa_12:24 WEB  David comforted Bathsheba his wife, and went in to her, and lay with her: and she bore a son, and he called his name Solomon. Yahweh loved him;

2Sa_12:24 And David comforted Bathsheba his wife, and he went in to her, and lay with her; and she conceived and bore a son, and he called his named Solomon, and the Lord loved him.

2Sa_12:24  καὶ παρεκάλεσεν Δαυιδ Βηρσαβεε τὴν γυναῖκα αὐτοῦ καὶ εἰσῆλθεν πρὸς αὐτὴν καὶ ἐκοιμήθη μετ᾿ αὐτῆς, καὶ συνέλαβεν καὶ ἔτεκεν υἱόν, καὶ ἐκάλεσεν τὸ ὄνομα αὐτοῦ Σαλωμων, καὶ κύριος ἠγάπησεν αὐτόν.

 

The Point: We should care deeply for all children, even of immorality like David did.

 

Tamar & Judah: Bad Motives; God’s Purpose

 

Pretending Prostitution to Obey God

·         Judah’s Children owed Tamar a Child by “Kinsmen Redeemer”

·         Tamar Tricked Judah into giving her the owed child (seed) by pretending prostitution.

·         Judah’s Motives: Prostitution

·         Tamar’s Motives: Child by Kinsmen Redeemer (obeying God’s morality/law)

 

Tamar: Pregnant & Justified!

Gen_38:24 WEB  It happened about three months later, that it was told Judah, saying, "Tamar, your daughter-in-law, has played the prostitute; and moreover, behold, she is with child by prostitution." Judah said, "Bring her forth, and let her be burnt."

Gen_38:24 LB  And it came to pass after three months, that it was told Judah, saying, “Tamar your daughter-in-law has grievously played the harlot, and behold she is with child by harlotry.” And Judah said, “Bring her out, and let her be burned.”

Gen_38:24  Ἐγένετο δὲ μετὰ τρίμηνον ἀπηγγέλη τῷ Ιουδα λέγοντες Ἐκπεπόρνευκεν Θαμαρ ἡ νύμφη σου καὶ ἰδοὺ ἐν γαστρὶ ἔχει ἐκ πορνείας. εἶπεν δὲ Ιουδας Ἐξαγάγετε αὐτήν, καὶ κατακαυθήτω.

Gen_38:25 WEB  When she was brought forth, she sent to her father-in-law, saying, "By the man, whose these are, I am with child." She also said, "Please discern whose are these--the signet, and the cords, and the staff."

Gen_38:25 And as they were bringing her, she sent to her father-in-law, saying, “I am with child by the man whose these things are.” And she said, “See whose ring this is, and bracelet and staff.”

Gen_38:25  αὐτὴ δὲ ἀγομένη ἀπέστειλεν πρὸς τὸν πενθερὸν αὐτῆς λέγουσα Ἐκ τοῦ ἀνθρώπου, τίνος ταῦτά ἐστιν, ἐγὼ ἐν γαστρὶ ἔχω. καὶ εἶπεν Ἐπίγνωθι, τίνος ὁ δακτύλιος καὶ ὁ ὁρμίσκος καὶ ἡ ῥάβδος αὕτη.

Gen_38:26 WEB  Judah acknowledged them, and said, "She is more righteous than I, because I didn't give her to Shelah, my son." He knew her again no more.

Gen_38:26 And Judah acknowledged them, and said, “Tamar is more righteous than I, because I did not give her to Shelah my son”; and he never knew her again.

Gen_38:26  ἐπέγνω δὲ Ιουδας καὶ εἶπεν Δεδικαίωται Θαμαρ ἢ ἐγώ, οὗ εἵνεκεν οὐκ ἔδωκα αὐτὴν Σηλωμ τῷ υἱῷ μου. καὶ οὐ προσέθετο ἔτι τοῦ γνῶναι αὐτήν.

 

Ruth Blessed by Tamar’s Legacy

Rth_4:11 And all the people who were in the gate said, “We are witnesses”; and the elders said, “The Lord make your wife who goes into your house, as Rachel and as Leah, who both together built the house of Israel, and wrought mightily in Ephratha, and there shall be a name to you in Bethlehem.

Rth_4:11  καὶ εἴποσαν πᾶς ὁ λαὸς οἱ ἐν τῇ πύλῃ Μάρτυρες. καὶ οἱ πρεσβύτεροι εἴποσαν Δῴη κύριος τὴν γυναῖκά σου τὴν εἰσπορευομένην εἰς τὸν οἶκόν σου ὡς Ραχηλ καὶ ὡς Λειαν, αἳ ᾠκοδόμησαν ἀμφότεραι τὸν οἶκον Ισραηλ καὶ ἐποίησαν δύναμιν ἐν Εφραθα, καὶ ἔσται ὄνομα ἐν Βαιθλεεμ·

Rth_4:12 WEB  and let your house be like the house of Perez, whom Tamar bore to Judah, of the seed which Yahweh shall give you of this young woman.

Rth_4:12 And let your house be as the house of Perez, whom Tamar bore to Judah, of the descendants which the Lord shall give you of this maidservant.”

Rth_4:12  καὶ γένοιτο ὁ οἶκός σου ὡς ὁ οἶκος Φαρες, ὃν ἔτεκεν Θαμαρ τῷ Ιουδα, ἐκ τοῦ σπέρματος, οὗ δώσει κύριός σοι ἐκ τῆς παιδίσκης ταύτης.

 

Tamar Justifies Marry with Jesus

·         Marry could not be stoned because of Tamar’s example, and the law which reinforced required proof.

·         Tamar contributed to justifying Mary’s most blessed virgin birth

 

God Controls Sin

Judah’s example proves that God is in complete control of men who are motivated by prostitution -- their actions and the outcomes are providentially controlled by God for His purpose & glory, despite the bad motives of those who sin.

 

The Point: God has completely planed out and ordained what children are born for His purpose, despite the sexual murderers who might generate and conceive them.

 

Rahab

See: ISR > SRP > LOB > Rahab Saved by works

·         Rahab was a prostitute!

·         Saved by Faith.

·         Got into Jesus Genealogy!

 

The Point: Even though Rahab had lived an evil pagan immoral life, God used her right where she was, despite her previous occupation, to escape sin, apprehend faith, and even get into Jesus’ very flesh!

 

Genealogies Redeem Immorality!

 

(1) Tamar

Mat_1:3 Judah begot Perez and Zerah by Tamar, Perez begot Hezron, and Hezron begot Ram.

Mat_1:3  ᾿Ιούδας δὲ ἐγέννησε τὸν Φαρές καὶ τὸν Ζαρὰ ἐκ τῆς Θάμαρ, Φαρὲς δὲ ἐγέννησε τὸν ᾿Εσρώμ, ᾿Εσρὼμ δὲ ἐγέννησε τὸν ᾿Αράμ,

√ GNT-V

 

(2) Rahab, Bathsheba

Mat_1:5 Salmon begot Boaz by Rahab, Boaz begot Obed by Ruth, Obed begot Jesse,

Mat_1:5  Σαλμὼν δὲ ἐγέννησε τὸν Βοὸζ ἐκ τῆς ῾Ραχάβ, Βοὸζ δὲ ἐγέννησε τὸν ᾿Ωβὴδ ἐκ τῆς ῾Ρούθ, ᾿Ωβὴδ δὲ ἐγέννησε τὸν ᾿Ιεσσαί,

Mat_1:5  σαλμων δε εγεννησεν τον Aβοες TSBβοοζ εκ της ραχαβ Aβοες TSBβοοζ δε εγεννησεν τον Aιωβηδ TSBωβηδ εκ της ρουθ Aιωβηδ TSBωβηδ δε εγεννησεν τον ιεσσαι

Mat_1:6 and Jesse begot David the king. David the king begot Solomon by her who had been the wife of Uriah.

Mat_1:6  ᾿Ιεσσαὶ δὲ ἐγέννησε τὸν Δαυΐδ τὸν βασιλέα. Δαυΐδ δὲ ὁ βασιλεὺς ἐγέννησε τὸν Σολομῶνα ἐκ τῆς τοῦ Οὐρίου,

Mat_1:6  ιεσσαι δε εγεννησεν τον BAδαυιδ TSδαβιδ τον βασιλεα BAδαυιδ TSδαβιδ δε TSBο TSBβασιλευς εγεννησεν τον BAσολομωνα TSσολομωντα εκ της του ουριου

 

Talk about troubled genealogies!

“Tamar…Rahab…her who had been the wife of Uriah”

 

(3) Jesus!

Mat_1:16 And Jacob begot Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus who is called Christ.

Mat_1:16  ᾿Ιακὼβ δὲ ἐγέννησε τὸν ᾿Ιωσὴφ τὸν ἄνδρα Μαρίας, ἐξ ἧς ἐγεννήθη ᾿Ιησοῦς ὁ λεγόμενος Χριστός.

√ GNT-V

 

 

 

Temple Renewal

More than Recovery from Damage, but a restoration to more glory than the original state!

Many other pre-compiled dates (from ~2008-2015); 5/12/15-5/13/15; 5/16/15-5/17/15; 5/24/15-6/18/15; 9/12/15-9/13/15; 4/23/25

A statement of faith

 

Locked Up: The Excitement Of A Locked Up And Sealed Garden

Son_4:12 WEB  A locked upH5274 [נָע֖וּל (na·'Ul) – eng: nail] gardenH1588 [גַּ֥ןgan] is my sister [אחתי H269], my bride [כלה H3618]; a locked upH5274 [נעולH5274 – eng: nail] springH1530 [גלH1530 gal], a sealedH2856 [חתום׃H2856] fountainH4599 [מעיןH4599].

Son_4:12 CAB  My sister, my spouse is a garden enclosed; a garden enclosed, a fountain sealed.

Son_4:12 Greek  Κῆπος κεκλεισμένος ἀδελφή μου νύμφη, κῆπος κεκλεισμένος, πηγὴ ἐσφραγισμένη·

(also: Son_8:6 – quoted else ware)

 

[called a "sister": (A) she is as a relative now, (B) partly because of Being joined next to: Exo_26:3, Exo_26:5-6, Exo_26:17; Eze_1:9; Eze_3:13)

 

Laid up many good things

Son_7:13 CAB  The mandrakes have given a smell, and at our doors are all kinds of choice fruits, new and old. O my kinsman, I have kept them for you.

 

You can be spiritually sealed: 2Co_1:22, Eph_1:13, Eph_4:30, Rev_7:3

 

This is what we said at the beginning: if you have blown it, seal up and start storing up Godly passion now!

 

Parabolic Repentance & Redemption

Other dates; 5/29/15-5/31/15; many other dates - 6/18/15; 6/19/15 (Initially Presented); 9/12/15

 

Healed Hymen

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Parabolic Repentance

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Marital Redemption After Defilement – From Old Covenant to New Covenant

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Horizontal Parabolic Forgiveness – The Only Way to Get Horizontal Forgiveness When You Have Been Ordained From The Beginning

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Restoration Must Be Deep

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Obsession -- Proof!!

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Josiahs’ Particular Parable of Exclusivity

 

Parabolic Repentance | Healed Hymen | Marital Redemption After Defilement – From Old Covenant to New Covenant

>> Not as Something Owed, But As A Privileged Opportunity to Testify

>> Let the Memory of Them Perish

>> The Great Risk of a Righteous Man Redeeming a Non-Virgin into a Proper Wife

>> Marital Redemption 101

>> Parabolic Basics

Parable Matchup | The Mightiness of Celibacy | “No False Starts!” | Accept their Restoration By Faith

http://www.trueconnection.org/BibleStudies/purity-proclamation.htm#ParabolicRepentance

http://www.trueconnection.org/BibleStudies/purity-proclamation.htm#NotasSomethingOwed

Exclusivity--08--Parabolic-Repentance-&-Redemption--6.19.15.mp3

 

 

>> Like usual, pls remember not to read ahead.

 

>> Add: Father w daughter

>> her fornication still required the father to give her away -- and this is a separate event

 

 

Slay the foxes!

Do some Justice;

Raise up the banner of exclusivity!

Preach repentance;

Seal up hope and faithfulness;

Apprehend the unhindered promises of fully glorifying exaltation!

 

Review of Preceding Elements

·          This does indirectly give some partial understanding on what's going on, and even some partial hints on who some of us are... (so could be used for some important things)

 

Question: Healed Hymen or Accepted by Faith?

Define: Virginity

Critical Questions from A Pure Disciple

 

“In the area of restoration I have also wondered and prayed for years about being fully restored/created all together physically as well as spiritually and emotionally. In the area of physically being restored, can a female pray specifically for the replacement of her hymen (especially if she gets physically married upon the earth) and other things? I have not yet seen this done in the Bible and I wanted to know if this was important for a female to desire? Is it so that the man in whom she should marry should just “accept her” by faith without a hymen. To me this seems like a “settling for less” situation. Shouldn’t true and thorough restoration restore everything that was lost/taken? But then again I don’t know if Mary’s hymen was replaced before Joseph entered her. Was Rahab made a physical virgin again before she got married to the Israelite? (These men accepted their wives by faith and they were righteous!) I desire to know these things because I want restoration to be thorough as you have said and without the physical also being restored, it does not seem complete to me.  As a personal testimony, I want no trace of a “former man” to be left in me / evident in me. In fact this is repulsive to me, to enter in a marriage where I am offering anything less than the most utter bestest part of me ever (even if that means I have to wrestle an angel to take a hold of that which was lost).”

May 2015

A righteous sewer

 

Parabolic Repentance | Healed Hymen | Marital Redemption After Defilement – From Old Covenant to New Covenant

 

Healed Hymen

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Parabolic Repentance

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Marital Redemption After Defilement – From Old Covenant to New Covenant

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Horizontal Parabolic Forgiveness – The Only Way to Get Horizontal Forgiveness When You Have Been Ordained From The Beginning

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Restoration Must Be Deep

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Obsession -- Proof!!

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Josiahs’ Particular Parable of Exclusivity

 

The Short Answer: Redemptive Faith From Him is Good, and a Special Miracle in Her is Exciting

There is an initial sense in which we are, “dirty fornicating” gentiles, and the mercy of a man to display forgiveness and courage to work out redemption for her might by default naturally correlate with the physical “marks” left from her past sins. If any woman was especially healed however, that might pertain as a special particular calling to testify to forgiveness, redeemed purity, and possibly even the long-awaited special proclamation of repentance to physical Israel. So, praying for and apprehending the replacement of a hymen would be a special extra supernatural case with lots of spiritual implications.

 

On one hand, mercy and redemption are always good.  On the other hand, who would not want a special miracle? -- what shall we say?  These questions always come down to the same thing: what is your parable?

 

There is a theme of redemption and forgiveness that any remaining “marks” would speak to if they remained.

 

Prerequisites Before Going into Answers

Reminder: We are answering the second first part of a complex question: Healed Hymen or Accepted by Faith?

 

We actually have to go into several sub-points and sidetrack Prerequisites before we can sufficiently answer this very complicated and critical question…

 

We Are Laying a Foundation First

·         I do not know that we are going to actually answer the fullness of this question today.

·         This is another shoe fitting Bible study. Don’t just assume things apply to you unless sufficiently verified in goodness.

·         Even if we talk about some potentially painful things, as the very nature of this question stirs up, yet I am still more persuaded about spiritual answers than any and all dread of “damage” and “hurts”.

·         If you listen to this Bible study, I need you to be stoked with faith and resolutely prepared and committed to not hurt (i.e. feel discouraged, cheapened, contradicted, upset, disturbed) by the things addressed in this Bible study

·         Don't be confused, confounded, disoriented, shamed, cheapened, degraded, demoted, discouraged, upset, hurt…

·         On one hand, I have carefully sought to bring many resolving answers to the inherent hurts raised by the questions that started this Bible study, but on the other hand, if you are going to be tripped up and hurt by hearing some of the evils initially described in addressing all things, then I would much rather you not even listen to this Bible study until you can do so in faith with answers.

·         If you listen, I need you to agree to believe truth and goodness and that the answer is a real answer for you if you have any of these troubles

 

The Main Battle is for the Exclusivity of the Soul, But The Body Might Be Included Too

Basic Reminders: when dealing with the renewal of your being unto purity...

·         We can fully hope that our spirit has been born again with new life when God displays His full mercy and favor in our hearts and mouths.

·         Our spirit is born again, our soul is still in the works, and our body is subjected in hope

·         Our soul is the primary concern for exclusivity -- and generically speaking, it really is a pending battle to win, since we may have to fight to fully conquer all memories, strongholds, desires, preferences, and tendencies, and we may need to do this and win this adventure before each of us is exclusive & ready for marriage

·         ‘He able to do exceedingly and abundantly above all we ask or imagine according to the power at work in us’ Eph_3:20

·         “If the spirit… in-houses/lives in you...” (Rom_8:11) Then it can also surpass all boundaries and bring life to your die-able body and heal and do all kinds of special works and parables and mysteries with changing you physically to match whatever great proclamations you particularly pertain to

 

Rom_8:11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit indwelling in you.

Rom_8:11  εἰ δὲ τὸ Πνεῦμα τοῦ ἐγείραντος ᾿Ιησοῦν ἐκ νεκρῶν οἰκεῖ ἐν ὑμῖν, ὁ ἐγείρας τὸν Χριστὸν ἐκ νεκρῶν ζῳοποιήσει καὶ τὰ θνητὰ σώματα ὑμῶν διὰ τοῦ ἐνοικοῦντος αὐτοῦ Πνεύματος ἐν ὑμῖν.

 

Confession & Healing – Two Notable Points to Consider Your Parable

·         This first point on Parabolic Repentance is initially about how to max out on the default situation laid upon women when coming from a defiled background, and the second point on Healed Hymen is about a special and particular, supernatural glory of physical healing

·         Parabolic Repentance, may still be necessary even if you apprehend a Healed Hymen favor, but a Healed Hymen calling would definitely have its own distinct implications and particular glories

·         Parabolic Repentance is the right place to start no matter which calling you end up apprehending (whether it be default faith or particular healing)

·         As I describe the two ways of answering our main question, carefully and prayerfully listen so as to hear what you are called to, which is the ultimate personalized answer for you in these cases, and yearn to know what you are supposed to apprehend by faith

 

For now, let’s go ahead and start by jumping into this huge question and need…

 

Defilement is Permanent by Nature

Define: Virginity

 

Deuteronomy 22 & 23 – Targum Pseudo-Jonathan Says Not to Even Marry a Woman Who was Raped

 

Deu_22:25-27 – “…if a man find a damsel in the wilderness, and do violence to her and lie with her, the man only shall die who lay with her, for the damsel is not guilty of death; but her husband may put her away from him by a bill of divorcement

(Commentary on Deu_22:25-27 – Targum Pseudo-Jonathan [or, as some call it, Targum Yerushalmi/ “Jerusalem Targum”] – English Translation by JW Etheridge)

 

After trying to clarify Deuteronomy 22, a little bit later this same paraphrase (or commentary) then goes even further by saying,

 

“A man should not take a wife who is bowed down (or violated)…”

 

(Commentary on Deu_23:1 – Targum Pseudo-Jonathan [or, as some call it, Targum Yerushalmi/ “Jerusalem Targum”] – English Translation by JW Etheridge)

 

2nd Samuel 13 – Rape is Permanently Defiling

2Sa_13:12-13 WEB  She answered him, No, my brother, do not force me; for no such thing ought to be done in Israel. Don't you do this folly.  13  I, where shall I carry my shame? and as for you, you will be as one of the fools in Israel. Now therefore, please speak to the king; for he will not withhold me from you.

2Sa_13:12-13 CAB  And she said to him, No, my brother, do not humble me, for it ought not to be so done in Israel; do not do this disgraceful thing!  13  And I, where shall I remove my [name] reproach [ὄνειδός]? And you shall be as one of the fools in Israel. And now, speak to the king, for surely he will not keep me from you.

2Sa_13:12-13 Greek  καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ Μή, ἄδελφέ μου, μὴ ταπεινώσῃς με, διότι οὐ ποιηθήσεται οὕτως ἐν Ισραηλ· μὴ ποιήσῃς τὴν ἀφροσύνην ταύτην·  13  καὶ ἐγὼ ποῦ ἀποίσω τὸ ὄνειδός μου; καὶ σὺ ἔσῃ ὡς εἷς τῶν ἀφρόνων ἐν Ισραηλ· καὶ νῦν λάλησον δὴ πρὸς τὸν βασιλέα, ὅτι οὐ μὴ κωλύσῃ με ἀπὸ σοῦ.

 

Even if a woman was raped, she has permanent and unbearable defilement that cannot be undone -- and if this is the case with the involuntary defilement of rape, much more destructive and defiling and permanent is the willing murder done in fornication.

 

Proverbs 6 – Adultery is Permanently Defiling

Pro_6:32-33 WEB  He who commits adultery with a woman is void of understanding. He who does it destroys his own soul.  33  He will get wounds and dishonor. His reproach will not be wiped away.

Pro_6:32-33 CAB  But the adulterer through lack of understanding procures destruction to his soul.  33  He endures both pain and disgrace, and his [name] reproach [ὄνειδος] shall never be wiped off.

Pro_6:32-33 Greek  ὁ δὲ μοιχὸς δι᾿ ἔνδειαν φρενῶν ἀπώλειαν τῇ ψυχῇ αὐτοῦ περιποιεῖται,  33  ὀδύνας τε καὶ ἀτιμίας ὑποφέρει, τὸ δὲ ὄνειδος αὐτοῦ οὐκ ἐξαλειφθήσεται εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα.

 

Deu_24:1-4 – Even Death Does Not Clean The Defilement Of Remarriage

As seen in Divorce and Remarriage Repentance Revolution

Deu_24:1-4 CAB  And if anyone should take a wife, and should *dwell with [* LXX: συνοικήσῃ – lit. cohabit; MT: ובעלה – lit. (become) master (over); LXX & MT: fig. marry] her, then [καὶ – and] it shall come to pass if she should not have found favor [χάριν] before him, because he has found *some unbecoming thing [* LXX: ἄσχημον πρᾶγμα – lit. a matter of not having fashion/ shape ; fig. an issue (πρᾶγμα) over an embarrassing (ἄσχημον) thing he has now noticed – this “shapeless” word is the exact same Greek term used for “private parts” of the body in 1Co_12:23; MT: H1697דבר H6172ערות בה – a word (dâbâr) of nakedness; – “nakedness” (from Hebrew) = similar to LXX’s “shapeless matter” (from Greek) – i.e. something he discovered by seeing her uncovered] in her, that he shall write [Actual Greek: “καὶ” (kai) – and, “γράψει” (grapsei) Indicative Moodhe writes; forgeries commonly added in English: “thatshall” (a falsification to make it appear as a command (in the Imperative Mood) when the Greek simply states it as occurring (in the Indicative Mood)] for her a certificate of divorce [LXX: βιβλίον ἀποστασίου – lit. a book/ writing of standing away; MT: H3748כריתת H5612ספר לה – a book/ writing of cutting], and give[s] it into her hands, and he shall [not in Greek] send[s]Indicative Mood her away [ἐξαποστελεῖ] out [ἐκ (same as ἐξ within the previous word)] of his house.  2  And *if she should go away [* LXX: ἀπελθοῦσα; one DSS document (4QDeuta) agrees with the LXX here, while MT, the Samaritan Pentateuch, and another DSS document (4QDeutk2) add the specification, “When she is departed out of his house…” (WEB)] and *be married to another man [* γένηται ἀνδρὶ ἑτέρῳ – lit. become another man’s (same Greek as Rom 7!)];  3  and the last husband [4QDeutk2 adds, (who took her) “to be his wife” (DSS Bible); (Not included in 4QDeuta, SP, MT, LXX)] should hate her, and write for her a certificate of divorce [same as v. 1], and should give it into her hands, and send her away [same as v. 1] out of his house [οἰκίας – compare v. 1 (i.e. “dwell with her”)], and [or] the last husband should die [ἀποθάνῃ – lit. die away], who took her to himself for a wife;  4  the former [πρότερος – first] husband who sent her away [ἐξαποστείλαςsame as v. 1] shall not be able to return [ἐπαναστρέψας – lit. turn again upon/ return upon] and take her to himself for a wife, after she has been defiled [μετὰ τὸ μιανθῆναι αὐτήν – lit. after the defilement of her (i.e. after her remarriage)]; because it [ὅτι – lit. that] is an abomination before the Lord your God, and you shall not defile [μιανεῖτε] the land which the Lord your God gives you to inherit [ἐν κλήρῳ].

 

Lev 21 – A Priest’s Marriage Restrictions

Speaking of the Priest...

 

Lev_21:4 WEB  He shall not defile himself, being a chief man among his people, to profane himself.

Lev_21:6-9 WEB  They shall be holy to their God, and not profane the name of their God; for they offer the offerings of Yahweh made by fire, the bread of their God; therefore they shall be holy.  7  " 'They shall not marry a woman who is a prostitute, or profane; neither shall they marry a woman divorced from her husband: for he is holy to his God.  8  You shall sanctify him therefore; for he offers the bread of your God: he shall be holy to you: for I Yahweh, who sanctify you, am holy.  9  " 'The daughter of any priest, if she profanes herself by playing the prostitute, she profanes her father: she shall be burned with fire.

 

Lev_21:4 CAB  ...he shall not defile [μιανθήσεται] himself suddenly among his people to profane [βεβήλωσιν] himself...

Lev_21:4 Greek  οὐ μιανθήσεται ἐξάπινα ἐν τῷ λαῷ αὐτοῦ εἰς βεβήλωσιν αὐτοῦ .

Lev_21:6-9 CAB  They shall be holy to their God, and they shall not profane [βεβηλώσουσιν] the name of their God; for they offer the sacrifices of the Lord as the gifts of their God, and they shall be holy.  7  They shall not take a woman who is a harlot [πόρνην] and profaned [καὶ βεβηλωμένην], or [καὶ] a woman put away from [ἐκβεβλημένηνG1544 (lexical: ἐκβάλλω) ἀπὸ – lit. thrown out from; fig. “rejected by” (NETS)] her husband [ἀνδρὸς αὐτῆς]; for he is holy to the Lord his God.  8  And you shall hallow him; he offers the gifts of the Lord your God: he shall be holy, for I the Lord that sanctify them am holy.  9  And if the daughter of a priest should be profaned [βεβηλωθῇ] *to go a whoring [* τοῦ ἐκπορνεῦσαι], she profanes [βεβηλοῖ] the name of her father [Deu_22:20-21]: she shall be burned with fire [ἐπὶ πυρὸς κατακαυθήσεται – Gen_38:24; Jos_7:15, Jos_7:25].

Lev_21:6-9 Greek  ἅγιοι ἔσονται τῷ θεῷ αὐτῶν καὶ οὐ βεβηλώσουσιν τὸ ὄνομα τοῦ θεοῦ αὐτῶν· τὰς γὰρ θυσίας κυρίου δῶρα τοῦ θεοῦ αὐτῶν αὐτοὶ προσφέρουσιν καὶ ἔσονται ἅγιοι.  7  γυναῖκα πόρνην καὶ βεβηλωμένην οὐ λήμψονται καὶ γυναῖκα ἐκβεβλημένην ἀπὸ ἀνδρὸς αὐτῆς· ἅγιός ἐστιν τῷ κυρίῳ θεῷ αὐτοῦ.  8  καὶ ἁγιάσει αὐτόν, τὰ δῶρα κυρίου τοῦ θεοῦ ὑμῶν οὗτος προσφέρει· ἅγιος ἔσται, ὅτι ἅγιος ἐγὼ κύριος ὁ ἁγιάζων αὐτούς.  9  καὶ θυγάτηρ ἀνθρώπου ἱερέως ἐὰν βεβηλωθῇ τοῦ ἐκπορνεῦσαι, τὸ ὄνομα τοῦ πατρὸς αὐτῆς αὐτὴ βεβηλοῖ· ἐπὶ πυρὸς κατακαυθήσεται.

 

Lev_21:13-15 WEB  " 'He shall take a wife in her virginity.  14  A widow, or one divorced, or a woman who has been defiled, or a prostitute, these he shall not marry: but a virgin of his own people shall he take as a wife.  15  He shall not profane his seed among his people: for I am Yahweh who sanctifies him.' "

Lev_21:13-15 CAB He shall take for a wife a virgin [παρθένον] of his own tribe.  14  But a widow [Eze_44:22 – later specified to not include a priest’s widow], or one that is put away, [ἐκβεβλημένην – lit. thrown out] or profaned [βεβηλωμένην], or a harlot [καὶ πόρνην], these he shall not take; but [ἀλλ᾿ – stronger contrast] he shall take for a wife [the] a virgin [ἢ παρθένον] of [ἐκ] his own people [τοῦ γένους αὐτοῦ].  15  And he shall not profane his seed [σπέρμα (sperma)] among [ἐν (en)] his people: I am the Lord that sanctifies him.

 

Eze_44:22-23 WEB  Neither shall they take for their wives a widow, nor her who is put away; but they shall take virgins of the seed of the house of Israel, or a widow who is the widow of a priest.  23  They shall teach my people the difference between the holy and the common, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean.

Eze_44:22-23 CAB Neither shall they take to themselves a widow *for a wife [* εἰς γυναῖκα – lit. into a woman/ wife (for himself)], or one that is put away [ἐκβεβλημένην], but [the] a virgin [ἢ παρθένον] of [ἐκ] the seed of Israel. But if there should happen to be a priest’s widow, they shall take her [καὶ χήρα ἐὰν γένηται ἐξ ἱερέως, λήμψονται].  23  And they shall teach My people to distinguish between holy and profane, and they shall make known to them the difference between unclean and clean.

 

Fornication Calls for Death, Not Marriage

Fornication and adultery are so violent, so defiling, and so evil, that instead of marriage, truly they deserve the death penalty to end their defiled bodies after they have sinned in this way…

 

Num_31:17-18 – Kill every woman that has known a man

 

Num_31:14 CAB  And Moses was angry with the captains of the army, the heads of thousands and the heads of hundreds who came from the battle array.

Num_31:14  καὶ ὠργίσθη Μωυσῆς ἐπὶ τοῖς ἐπισκόποις τῆς δυνάμεως, χιλιάρχοις καὶ ἑκατοντάρχοις τοῖς ἐρχομένοις ἐκ τῆς παρατάξεως τοῦ πολέμου,

Num_31:15 WEB  Moses said to them, Have you saved all the women alive?

Num_31:15 And Moses said to them, “Why have you saved every female alive?

Num_31:15  καὶ εἶπεν αὐτοῖς Μωυσῆς Ἵνα τί ἐζωγρήσατε πᾶν θῆλυ;

Num_31:16 WEB  Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against Yahweh in the matter of Peor, and so the plague was among the congregation of Yahweh.

Num_31:16 For they were the occasion to the children of Israel by the word of Balaam of their revolting and despising the word of the Lord, because of Peor, and there was a plague in the congregation of the Lord.

Num_31:16  αὗται γὰρ ἦσαν τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ κατὰ τὸ ῥῆμα Βαλααμ τοῦ ἀποστῆσαι καὶ ὑπεριδεῖν τὸ ῥῆμα κυρίου ἕνεκεν Φογωρ, καὶ ἐγένετο ἡ πληγὴ ἐν τῇ συναγωγῇ κυρίου.

Num_31:17 WEB  Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him.

Num_31:17 Now then, kill every male in all the spoil, kill every woman who has known a man intimately.

Num_31:17  καὶ νῦν ἀποκτείνατε πᾶν ἀρσενικὸν ἐν πάσῃ τῇ ἀπαρτίᾳ, καὶ πᾶσαν γυναῖκα, ἥτις ἔγνωκεν κοίτην ἄρσενος, ἀποκτείνατε·

Num_31:18 WEB  But all the girls, who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Num_31:18 And as for all the captivity of women who have not known a man intimately, keep them alive.

Num_31:18  πᾶσαν τὴν ἀπαρτίαν τῶν γυναικῶν, ἥτις οὐκ οἶδεν κοίτην ἄρσενος, ζωγρήσατε αὐτάς.

 

Gen_38:24 WEB  It happened about three months later, that it was told Judah, saying, "Tamar, your daughter-in-law, has played the prostitute; and moreover, behold, she is with child by prostitution." Judah said, "Bring her forth, and let her be burnt."

Gen_38:24 CAB  And it came to pass after three months, that it was told Judah, saying, Tamar your daughter-in-law has grievously played the harlot, and behold she is with child by harlotry; and Judah said, Bring her out, and let her be burned.

Gen_38:24 Greek  Ἐγένετο δὲ μετὰ τρίμηνον ἀπηγγέλη τῷ Ιουδα λέγοντες Ἐκπεπόρνευκεν Θαμαρ ἡ νύμφη σου καὶ ἰδοὺ ἐν γαστρὶ ἔχει ἐκ πορνείας. εἶπεν δὲ Ιουδας Ἐξαγάγετε αὐτήν, καὶ κατακαυθήτω.

 

This is as we already saw with the priest’s daughter when she is burned for prostitution in Lev_21:9, except there were no witnesses in Tamar’s case, and Tamar (who’s story is recorded in the Law) became an illustration of why the actual Mosaic Law (proper) later required two witnesses before ever applying the death penalty.

 

TSK: let her: Gen_20:3, Gen_20:7, Gen_20:9, Lev_20:10, Lev_21:9, Deu_22:21-27, Deu_24:16, 2Sa_12:5, 2Sa_12:7, Jer_29:22, Jer_29:23... Rom_2:2...

 

Deu_22:21 WEB  then they shall bring out the young lady to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done folly in Israel, to play the prostitute in her father's house: so you shall put away the evil from the midst of you.

Deu_22:21 CAB  then shall they bring out the young woman to the doors of her father's house, and shall stone her with stones, and she shall die; because she has wrought folly among the children of Israel, to defile the house of her father by harlotry: so you shall remove the evil one from among you.

Deu_22:21 Greek  καὶ ἐξάξουσιν τὴν νεᾶνιν ἐπὶ τὰς θύρας οἴκου πατρὸς αὐτῆς, καὶ λιθοβολήσουσιν αὐτὴν οἱ ἄνδρες τῆς πόλεως αὐτῆς ἐν λίθοις, καὶ ἀποθανεῖται, ὅτι ἐποίησεν ἀφροσύνην ἐν υἱοῖς Ισραηλ ἐκπορνεῦσαι τὸν οἶκον τοῦ πατρὸς αὐτῆς· καὶ ἐξαρεῖς τὸν πονηρὸν ἐξ ὑμῶν αὐτῶν.

 

Rom_1:29 CAB  having been filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, greed, malice; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness; they are whisperers,

Rom_1:32 Greek  οἵτινες τὸ δικαίωμα τοῦ Θεοῦ ἐπιγνόντες, ὅτι οἱ τὰ τοιαῦτα πράσσοντες ἄξιοι θανάτου εἰσίν, οὐ μόνον αὐτὰ ποιοῦσιν, ἀλλὰ καὶ συνευδοκοῦσι τοῖς πράσσουσι.

 

Rom_1:32 CAB  who, having known the righteous judgment of God, that those practicing such things are worthy of death, not only do them, but also approve of those who practice them.

Rom_1:32 Greek  οἵτινες τὸ δικαίωμα τοῦ Θεοῦ ἐπιγνόντες, ὅτι οἱ τὰ τοιαῦτα πράσσοντες ἄξιοι θανάτου εἰσίν, οὐ μόνον αὐτὰ ποιοῦσιν, ἀλλὰ καὶ συνευδοκοῦσι τοῖς πράσσουσι.

 

Rom_2:2 CAB  But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth upon those practicing such things.

Rom_2:2 Greek  οἴδαμεν δὲ ὅτι τὸ κρίμα τοῦ Θεοῦ ἐστι κατὰ ἀλήθειαν ἐπὶ τοὺς τὰ τοιαῦτα πράσσοντας.

 

Implications of Permanent Defilement

·         By default, society requires physical virginity to preach and communicate holiness.

·         By default a holy man would bring reverse defilement on himself by receiving the defilement of another, and he would profane the holiness of his God by marrying a non-virgin (only exception: if it was a priests’ widow -- i.e. no sin involved at all, and everything else is holy about her context.)

·         It is one thing if a commoner marries a defiled woman, but if you think a holy person could ever righteously marry a non-virgin in holiness, then you have got a lot to contend with after reading these verses, but let us continue…

 

Holiness Takes on Defilement

 

Jeremiah 3 – Confirmation of the Permanent Defilement of Fornication, & The Mystery of God’s Call to Return

As seen in Divorce and Remarriage Repentance Revolution

 

Jer_3:1-2, Jer_3:7, Jer_3:12, Jer_3:14, Jer_3:20, Jer_3:22 CAB

v. Jer_3:1-2  If [Ἐὰν] a man *put away [* ξαποστελῃ – sends out and away (lit. out+from+positioned carefully – ALS p. 501)] his wife, and she depart [πλθ] from [ἀπ᾿] him, and become another man’s, shall she return to him anymore? Shall not that woman be utterly defiled? [referring to Deu_24:2-4] But you have *played the harlot [* ἐξεπόρνευσας – lit. (intensely) done out prostitution; same root (porneia) as Mat_5:32 and Mat_19:9] with many shepherds, and have returned to Me, says the Lord.  2  Lift up your eyes and look straight ahead, and see where you have not been utterly defiled. You have sat for them by the wayside as a deserted crow, and have defiled the land with your fornications [lit. prostitutions] and your wickedness… [as in Deu_24:4; Lev_19:29; Deu_23:17-18]

v. Jer_3:6-9  And the Lord said to me …Have you seen what things the house of Israel has done to Me? They have *gone on [* πορεθησαν] every high mountain, and under every shady tree, and have committed fornication [πρνευσαν] there.  7  And I said after she had committed all these acts of fornication [πορνεῦσαι – lit. prostitution; unlike Rahlfs (incl. Brenton and CAB), NETS says, “these things” (apparently due to a source text variation which is more like the MT)] , Turn again to Me. Yet she returned not...  8  And I saw that (for all the sins of which she was convicted, wherein the house of Israel committed adultery, and I put her away, and gave into her hands a certificate of divorce) yet faithless Judah feared not, but went and also committed fornication herself.  9  And her fornication was nothing accounted of; and she committed adultery with wood and stone.

v. Jer_3:12  Go and read these words toward the north, and you shall say, Return to Me, O house of Israel, says the Lord; and I will not set My face against you: for I am merciful, says the Lord, and I will not be angry with you forever…

v. Jer_3:14  Turn, you children that have revolted, says the Lord; for I will rule over you [κατακυριεύσω] [MT: “I am married to you” just as Deu_24]. And I will take you, one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you in to Zion [that is, Jerusalem] 

v. Jer_3:20  But as a wife acts treacherously against her husband, so has the house of Israel dealt treacherously against Me, says the Lord…

v. Jer_3:22  Turn, you children that are given to turning, and I will heal your bruises...

 

Jer_3:22 WEB  Return, you backsliding children, I will heal your backsliding

 

Jer_13:27 WEB  I have seen your abominations, even your adulteries, and your neighing, the lewdness of your prostitution, on the hills in the field. Woe to you, Jerusalem! you will not be made clean; how long shall it yet be?

Jer_13:27 CAB  your adultery also, and your neighing, and the looseness of your fornication. On the hills and in the fields I have seen your abominations. Woe to you, O Jerusalem, for you have not been purified so as to follow Me; how long yet shall it be?

Jer_13:27 Greek  καὶ ἡ μοιχεία σου καὶ ὁ χρεμετισμός σου καὶ ἡ ἀπαλλοτρίωσις τῆς πορνείας σου, ἐπὶ τῶν βουνῶν καὶ ἐν τοῖς ἀγροῖς ἑώρακα τὰ βδελύγματά σου· οὐαί σοι, Ιερουσαλημ, ὅτι οὐκ ἐκαθαρίσθης ὀπίσω μου, ἕως τίνος ἔτι;

 

The very idea of being made clean from fornication is being provocatively and profoundly suggested…

 

Notice that God is enforcing His mightier power over the pollutions of the filthiness of Israel’s fornication. Can you think of a New Testament teaching like this?

 

(1Co_7:14 CAB  For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified by the husband; otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.)

1Co_7:14 Greek  ἡγίασται γὰρ ὁ ἀνὴρ ὁ ἄπιστος ἐν τῇ γυναικί, καὶ ἡγίασται ἡ γυνὴ ἡ ἄπιστος ἐν τῷ ἀνδρί· ἐπεὶ ἄρα τὰ τέκνα ὑμῶν ἀκάθαρτά ἐστι, νῦν δὲ ἅγιά ἐστιν.

 

So when and how can God enforce such cleaning?

 

As we have said, David also did this forced redemption parable to evil and defiled Michal when he forcefully brought her back into his house. And not only did David do this, but Hosea also pulled this same forced cleanness, but did it even more potently!

 

Hos_1:2 WEB  When Yahweh spoke at first by Hosea, Yahweh said to Hosea, "Go, take for yourself a wife of prostitution and children of unfaithfulness; for the land commits great adultery, forsaking Yahweh."

Hos_1:2 CAB  The beginning of the word of the Lord by Hosea. And the Lord said to Hosea, Go, take to yourself a wife of fornication, and children of fornication: for the land will surely go a-whoring in departing from the Lord.

Hos_1:2 Greek  Ἀρχὴ λόγου κυρίου πρὸς Ωσηε· καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρὸς Ωσηε Βάδιζε λαβὲ σεαυτῷ γυναῖκα πορνείας καὶ τέκνα πορνείας, διότι ἐκπορνεύουσα ἐκπορνεύσει ἡ γῆ ἀπὸ ὄπισθεν τοῦ κυρίου.

 

Hos_3:1-3 WEB  Yahweh said to me, "Go again, love a woman loved by another, and an adulteress, even as Yahweh loves the children of Israel, though they turn to other gods, and love cakes of raisins."  2  So I bought her for myself for fifteen pieces of silver and a homer and a half of barley.  3  I said to her, "You shall stay with me many days. You shall not play the prostitute, and you shall not be with any other man. I will also be so toward you."

Hos_3:1-3 CAB  And the Lord said to me, Go yet, and love a woman that loves evil things, an adulteress, even as the Lord loves the children of Israel, and they have respect to strange gods, and love cakes of dried grapes.  2  So I hired her to myself for fifteen pieces of silver, and a homer of barley, and a flagon of wine.  3  And I said unto her, You shall wait for me many days; and you shall not commit fornication, neither shall you be for another man; and I will be for you.

Hos_3:1-3 Greek  Καὶ εἶπεν κύριος πρός με Ἔτι πορεύθητι καὶ ἀγάπησον γυναῖκα ἀγαπῶσαν πονηρὰ καὶ μοιχαλίν, καθὼς ἀγαπᾷ ὁ θεὸς τοὺς υἱοὺς Ισραηλ καὶ αὐτοὶ ἀποβλέπουσιν ἐπὶ θεοὺς ἀλλοτρίους καὶ φιλοῦσιν πέμματα μετὰ σταφίδων  2  καὶ ἐμισθωσάμην ἐμαυτῷ πεντεκαίδεκα ἀργυρίου καὶ γομορ κριθῶν καὶ νεβελ οἴνου  3  καὶ εἶπα πρὸς αὐτήν Ἡμέρας πολλὰς καθήσῃ ἐπ᾿ ἐμοὶ καὶ οὐ μὴ πορνεύσῃς οὐδὲ μὴ γένῃ ἀνδρὶ ἑτέρῳ, καὶ ἐγὼ ἐπὶ σοί.

 

David took back Michal, and even Hosea was commanded to take a woman of prostitutions, who was already immoral before he married her, just as God took Israel, and took her back again and again after her sins! How can holiness exist like this, when there is so much astounding mercy and Love from God that He would repeatedly redeem such evil people back to Himself?

    Now we must say, “at first you had a lot to contend with from reading the first verses about the permanent defilement of fornication if you expect marriage to follow that”, but now when compared with these latest verses, what shall we make of these great and mysterious and amazing paradoxes?

    When even God takes an immoral woman and does so in parables through His prophets, then it is surely in contrast to the normal boundaries of holiness that God displays the mighty amazingness and supernatural Justice-working of what He is actually doing now through mercy, forgiveness, redemption, and truth.

    Obedient and reverent faith in the real righteousness of God and loving His most personable scandals provokes all of the mercies of heaven out of Him and makes them at work within your life. And as a big mystery and parable of this, the same works true for all of His representative prophets and righteous workers. (And that’s a big hint about how to get great with God and with those who represent Him all at the same time.)

 

Rahab

Define: Virginity

 

Rahab married Salmon (of the tribe of Judah) and she bore Boaz.

 

“She married Salmon of the tribe of Judah and was the mother of Boaz.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahab

May 2015

 

Rahab Saves the Monotheistic Spys

Jos_2:1

 

Rahab Spared/Saved After Jericho is Destroyed

Jos_6:17

Jos_6:23, Jos_6:25

 

(Not: Psa_87:4; Isa_30:7)

 

Our Old Testament does not specify if Rahab was married, but Jews seem to affirm that she was married, and some eventually thought she was even married to Joshua! But let’s hear it from a faithful Jewish witness:

 

Matthew 1 Says Rahab Married Salmon

Mat_1:5 Salmon begot Boaz by [ἐκ] ·[the] Rahab [τῆς ῾Ραχάβ – i.e. the only one famous enough to be called “the”], Boaz begot Obed by Ruth, Obed begot Jesse,

Mat_1:5  Σαλμὼν δὲ ἐγέννησε τὸν Βοὸζ ἐκ τῆς ῾Ραχάβ, Βοὸζ δὲ ἐγέννησε τὸν ᾿Ωβὴδ ἐκ τῆς ῾Ρούθ, ᾿Ωβὴδ δὲ ἐγέννησε τὸν ᾿Ιεσσαί,

Mat_1:6 and Jesse begot David the king…

Mat_1:6  ᾿Ιεσσαὶ δὲ ἐγέννησε τὸν Δαυΐδ τὸν βασιλέα. Δαυΐδ δὲ ὁ βασιλεὺς ἐγέννησε τὸν Σολομῶνα ἐκ τῆς τοῦ Οὐρίου,

 

So…

 

Salmon + Rahab (former fornicator, non-Israelite, non-virgin) = Boaz

Boaz + Ruth (a non-priestly, non-Israelite, non-virgin) = Obed

Obed + someone = Jesse

Jesse + someone = David

 

Great “Non-Virgins” Who Were Married

·         Tamar

·         Rahab

·         Ruth

·         Others -- who can you think of?

 

Accept their Restoration By Faith?

Yes, men would need to accept moral restoration by faith, by default.

This has a lot of particulars and sensitiveness-es with the way spouses relate to each other.

 

Absolute Cleansing from Fornication

 

1Co_6:9-11 CAB  Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites,  10  nor covetous, nor thieves, nor drunkards, nor abusive people, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.  11  And such were some of you [καὶ ταῦτά τινες ἦτε]! But [ἀλλὰ] you were washed [ἀπελούσασθε], but [ἀλλὰ] you were sanctified [ἡγιάσθητε – holy-ified], but you were justified [ἐδικαιώθητε] in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

1Co_6:9-11 Greek  ἢ οὐκ οἴδατε ὅτι ἄδικοι βασιλείαν Θεοῦ οὐ κληρονομήσουσι; μὴ πλανᾶσθε· οὔτε πόρνοι οὔτε εἰδωλολάτραι οὔτε μοιχοὶ οὔτε μαλακοὶ οὔτε ἀρσενοκοῖται  10  οὔτε κλέπται οὔτε πλεονέκται οὔτε μέθυσοι οὐ λοίδοροι οὐχ ἅρπαγες βασιλείαν Θεοῦ οὐ κληρονομήσουσι.  11  καὶ ταῦτά τινες ἦτε· ἀλλὰ ἀπελούσασθε, ἀλλὰ ἡγιάσθητε, ἀλλὰ ἐδικαιώθητε ἐν τῷ ὀνόματι τοῦ Κυρίου ᾿Ιησοῦ Χριστοῦ καὶ ἐν τῷ Πνεύματι τοῦ Θεοῦ ἡμῶν.

 

And after having committed fornication, Paul says to them,

 

1Co_6:18 CAB  Flee fornication. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits fornication sins against his own body.

1Co_6:18 Greek  φεύγετε τὴν πορνείαν. πᾶν ἁμάρτημα ὃ ἐὰν ποιήσῃ ἄνθρωπος ἐκτὸς τοῦ σώματός ἐστιν· ὁ δὲ πορνεύων εἰς τὸ ἴδιον σῶμα ἁμαρτάνει.

 

And even beyond fleeing Paul says,

 

1Co_7:2 CAB  Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband.

1Co_7:2 Greek  διὰ δὲ τὰς πορνείας ἕκαστος τὴν ἑαυτοῦ γυναῖκα ἐχέτω, καὶ ἑκάστη τὸν ἴδιον ἄνδρα ἐχέτω.

 

Paul says, “Such were some of you”, but now each of these is allowed to marry.

 

Not only is a believer allowed to marry another believer in holiness in such cases, but even if a believer is already married to an unbeliever they can holy-ify their flesh (1Co_7:14).

 

If a fornicator is cleansed by faith so much so that all such disciples are allowed to marry, then truly, they are profoundly cleansed by God indeed.

 

Hagar was married by Hosea the prophet!

Rahab was married to Salmon!

New Testament disciples, with murderous pasts, are allowed to marry.

God was betrothed to Israel, and will even be married to her one day!

 

Isaiah 55 – He Will Abundantly Pardon

Isa_55:7 WEB  let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts; and let him return to Yahweh, and he will have mercy on him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Isa_55:7 CAB  let the ungodly leave his ways, and the transgressor his counsels; and let him return to the Lord, and he shall find mercy; for He shall abundantly pardon your sins.

Isa_55:7 Greek  ἀπολιπέτω ὁ ἀσεβὴς τὰς ὁδοὺς αὐτοῦ καὶ ἀνὴρ ἄνομος τὰς βουλὰς αὐτοῦ καὶ ἐπιστραφήτω ἐπὶ κύριον, καὶ ἐλεηθήσεται, ὅτι ἐπὶ πολὺ ἀφήσει τὰς ἁμαρτίας ὑμῶν.

 

God’s Virgin People?

After untold amounts of idolatrous fornication, “God’s people are called a “virgin” and or called unto virginity over and over again all throughout Jeremiah and the prophets:

 

>>h: double-check one day…

Isa_23:4, Isa_23:12 (MT); Isa_37:22 (also 2Ki_19:21); Isa_47:1; Isa_62:5; Jer_2:32; Jer_3:4 (LXX); Jer_14:17 (esp. MT); Jer_18:13; Jer_31:4, Jer_31:21; Jer_46:11*; Lam_1:15; Lam_2:13; Eze_23:3; Eze_23:8; Amo_5:2; (and for the NT compare Mat_25:1, Mat_25:7, Mat_25:11; 2Co_11:2; [and compare Rev_14:4])”

(as seen in Divorce and Remarriage Repentance Revolution)

 

Born Again into Virginity

If we consider the pragmatics of how God’s people could ever possibly be called “virgin” after so much evil, we might finally come to the thought they maybe the new generations did not commit idolatry as their father’s did, and this might reset their definition since the children never “experienced a man” in idolatry. -- Maybe we could say when the nation was replaced by her descendants, she existed again in a new and virgin generation -- so she became virgin by being “born again”. This has its natural place, but there is also the spiritual rebirth that has the same effect spiritually.

 

The Painful Threats Inherent After Fornication When Seeking Redemption

With the previous profound things in mind, we might elaborate on the evils of fornication and also look into the light of redemption…

 

Establishing the Problem of Fornication First

Before we go into answers we have to start with the very basics and fully face the default problems that come with cases of previous fornication. If we first face the default problem, then it is my hope that we can actually fight to establish a fully honest, thorough, and true answer that addresses all things in favor.

    Initially, I am not telling you the full deal here, I am only telling you the beginning of the matter so you can press on in like David and take hold of greater and greater things... -- After all, you have to have sacrifices before you can pray and say, "sacrifice and offering you did not desire..."

 

Redemption vs. Consequences?

Now what shall we do if we have obtained faith and we are seeking the blessedness of redemption but are troubled with the consequences of the sins of our former life, and the marks they have left in our bodies, and the troubles they have left in our souls? How will we resolve our faith with these troubles and hurts and sorrows, especially if we might find the surprising bliss of marriage upon us at some season of exaltations?

 

Fornication-Murder Has Painful Consequences, But There Are Exceptions

Fornication is a cruel and violent murder of sexuality. After Steven was stoned, Paul was not allowed to raise him back from the dead no matter how much Paul could have wished to reverse his sin*. There is something default in the nature of murder that is permanent and cannot be undone (just as it is in fornication-murder), and for most people, all they can do is repent and beg for forgiveness and then courageously get up and walk by faith (because it could potential contradict what they see with their eyes) in that forgiveness despite the continued consequences of their past life. -- This is the default for all men and women, but on the other hand, when Paul was stoned and dragged out for dead, the disciples gathered around him and something special helped him to somehow get back up again.

    Sometimes it is the very painful faith of dealing with consequences that is the glorious redemption and hope and faith you are called to preach. For example: remember how Paul talks about his past sinful life, including being murderous, and speaks much about the redemption of God’s favor? Even David’s faith after repenting is Scripture for all of us to live off of -- such as Psa_51, or even when David was merciful to Shimei, Saul’s persecuting descendant, when David was fleeing from Absalom.

    Many people have born the grief of the consequences of sin. On one hand you have cases where people are assigned to the requirement of walking in the faith of forgiveness and displaying that to the world, and on the other hand you have the hope of special and glorious exceptions being assigned to other people where even the consequences can be snatched away!

    You should initially set your heart on the righteousness and subjection of walking in forgiveness for yourself and others, and set your heart on finding more and more resolve and help by enduring in faith, and at the same time you should not limit anything, but watch and wait and see if by any means there be any case where any might have been given the special faith for a particular reason, calling, and parable, “for such a time as this” to see consequences snatched away -- not for your own consolation and conscience, but much rather for the sake of proclaiming the favor of the real Good Announcement to others! (To your spouse, and to the world.)

    If you do not have anything particular, simply watch and wait with diligence, and resolve on what you have so far according to perception and knowledge, but if any of us see some surpassing calling upon anyone, then we should pray and run fervently and quickly toward the light of that calling for them.

 

[* Another example of regretting murder: David could have wished to undo murdering Uriah, but he had to receive the words, "Your sins have been forgiven" while bearing the enduring consequences. (this is even more needed because it was after David was great vs. Sinning in your past life...)]

 

Initial Default Threats & Challenges Until Help Comes

By default, it is a painful thing for a man to marry a non-virgin. This is the case even if he was not a virgin, but it could be even more painful if he was a virgin and she was not.

    As we say later, the challenge is not just biological (although that has its aspects), but much more so, the threat is actually much more psychological, with the threat of non-exclusivity and “comparisons” being made, when she should be an unexposed blank slate totally surprised, shocked, overwhelmed, and defined afresh, bringing no knowledge or experience at all to the marriage bed. He should be defining her and teaching her about her own sexuality, and particularly his, and she should learn what she never had a clue about before. She should know virtually nothing about men (with the possible exception of dealing with babies?) before she comes to “know a man”.

 

Gen_24:16 – No man had known Rebecca

Num_31:17-18 – Kill every woman that has known a man

Mary said, “I do not know a man” (Luk_1:34)

 

When Mike used to speak against dating he would say, “Whenever you might get to your wedding day, you don't want to come together and start kissing and say, ‘Oh yah, I've done this before...’”

 

Who in this day is truly renewed among men or women after fornication? These inherent challenges and threats and possible “pains” and consequences of past sins are very daunting by default, especially for the flesh that is trying to care about purity. Socially speaking, when managing the flesh, it makes a lot of sense that the idea of a woman marrying after fornication is more of an “if” than a “when”.

    But indeed, even if marriage is a big “if” for the flesh that has fornicated, with many threats stacked on top of that if she even thinks about marriage, yet “if” she is somehow actually in a spiritual community, then it is converted from an “if” into more of a “let”, as when Paul says, “let each man…and woman” marry, despite the fact that “such were some of you”.

    All past threats are things that a very merciful man and a renewed and extremely exclusive woman can resolve to the same degree that they truly walk in surpassing faith. Such men (I would hope) have already thought much about apprehending the picture of God’s unending mercy that redeemed Israel over and over, and constantly called her back to Himself, and if a woman is truly already repented, then this can be relevant to a spiritual man who is called to be merciful, and make a sacrifice, and courageously take it upon himself to walk in this faith for her sake, and actually work out a parabolic redemption for her.

 

What is Parabolic Repentance?

Parabolic repentance is a good confession of parabolic, apology-like confession concerning pre-marital unfaithfulness to the flesh of an ordained spouse. After having come into faith and after having found that lawful marriage is upon you, parabolic repentance is eager zeal and indignation to fully set the record straight and seal up all the magnified glory of superior things in front of you that are now being hoped for.

 

A primary example of parabolic repentance can be a spiritual plea and request from a woman to a man to work out a parabolic redemption for her life and redefine her flesh and body into full womanhood.

 

Parabolic repentance is a convincing proof of vital faith and deep set rejection of all other marital options and appeals.

visual & physical appeals as well as emotional intimacy pleasure.

 

Just as Jesus says, “your faith has saved/healed you”*, the idea of a woman “repenting” and making a confession and plea for redemption in some sort of spiritual, New Covenant exciting way to her ordained husband somehow has a potential place to absolutely provoke salvation, healing, and the favor-working power of deep redemption out of him to pour down and redefine her life, in an out of this world parable of Justice, truth, peace, redemption, proclamation, and exaltation.

 

* Your Faith Has Saved You: Mat_9:22; Mar_5:34; Mar_10:52; Luk_17:19; Luk_7:50; Luk_18:42; -- in every case we see this phrase, it always uses the word for “salvation”. (comp. Mat_9:29, Act_14:9, Heb_4:2)

 

It includes the most fervent, potent, fiery, zealous, expressive, emotional abominating of past encounters and relationships and the sure and complete rejection of their worthlessness and detestableness. While cringing to draw up any loathsome names or memories or too many specifics, with big sweeping dashes of faith and good words of righteous confessions, it properly thorn-ifies every past encounter as sleeping with demons, and more so anathematizes every other future possibility of ever again being appealed to by the romance of Satan.

 

What is, oh daughter, the dirt of death and grit of fowl pollution between your teeth when compared to the luscious feast of heaven?

 

It is very appropriate and honorable for you to contrast the un-appealing-ness of previous experiences (visually, physically, emotionally) with your faithful perception of superior glories.

 

Completely anathematize all past, present, and future alternatives with the most potent disgust, zeal, anger, & rejection, and emphatically, enthusiastically declare unhindered ambitions of fully persuaded and overflowing exclusivity in the most extreme terms available in a coed environment.

 

It replaces jealousy, anger, dread, fear, with exclusivity, fidelity, and ultimately, truly available romance.

 

Establish exclusivity. Brand permanent impressions. Be compelled and thrown toward whole-hearted, fully persuaded, zealously apprehending lawful arrangements from Heaven with no doubts, questions, fears, looking back, dread, suspicions, leaving no room at all for trouble.

 

Are You There Yet?

Leave absolutely no room for doubt, lest there might be even part of you left that could even slightly be appealed to or attracted to, or enticed by any other person for the rest of your lives, and let that heat explode into the good confessions that permanently solidify truth in yourself and others.

    If current lawful considerations are perceivably less potential pleasure by any means in any sense, visually, physically, emotionally, then some kind of deeper work is still needed... (more repentance? Other truth helps?)

    If you have not already established a full and true persuasion of faith and integrity unto the deepest exclusivity even in your subconscious, then why would you move forward? Don’t wait to settle things after commitment, do so before, as much as you are permitted.

 

When you are fully stoked and burning with overflowing zeal for truth, take that faithful good confession and obsessive addiction to Justice with you in your heart and flip over some tables and blaze a permanent declaration of faith, exclusivity, passionate persuasion, truth, and vital determination to take hold of the massive hope in front of you, by life or by death.

 

Son_8:6 WEB Set me as a seal on your heart, as a seal on your arm; for love is strong as death. Jealousy is as cruel as Sheol. Its flashes are flashes of fire, a very flame of Yahweh.

Son_8:6 CAB Set me as a seal upon your heart, as a seal upon your arm; for love is strong as death; jealousy is cruel as the grave, her shafts are shafts of fire, even the flames thereof.

Son_8:6  Θές με ὡς σφραγῖδα ἐπὶ τὴν καρδίαν σου, ὡς σφραγῖδα ἐπὶ τὸν βραχίονά σου· ὅτι κραταιὰ ὡς θάνατος ἀγάπη, σκληρὸς ὡς ᾅδης ζῆλος· περίπτερα αὐτῆς περίπτερα πυρός, φλόγες αὐτῆς·

Son_8:7 Many waters can't quench love, neither can floods drown it. If a man would give all the wealth of his house for love, he would be utterly scorned.  Friends

Son_8:7 Much water will not be able to quench love, and rivers shall not drown it; if a man would give all his substance for love, men would utterly despise it.

Son_8:7  ὕδωρ πολὺ οὐ δυνήσεται σβέσαι τὴν ἀγάπην, καὶ ποταμοὶ οὐ συγκλύσουσιν αὐτήν· ἐὰν δῷ ἀνὴρ τὸν πάντα βίον αὐτοῦ ἐν τῇ ἀγάπῃ, ἐξουδενώσει ἐξουδενώσουσιν αὐτόν.

 

Al (6/23/15):

The Scriptures mention that the Lord was "tempted".
In the last exhortation you mentioned "...Leave absolutely no room for doubt, lest there might be even part of you left that could even slightly be appealed to or attracted to, or enticed by any other person for the rest of your lives.."
Is the difference between the two cases: demons just "tryin you" but yet 'the devil has nothing in you' VS. Jam
_1:14 where there is 'something in you' that is being hooked and pulled and snared?

So in particular scenarios it is requisite that people would be able to have attained to and confess like Jesus "he has nothing in me" (at least in regards to sexuality) before moving forward?

(I'm just wanting an affirmation)

 

Or, can a holy man’s flesh cut off and close up any punctures that the recipient might be ignorant of or might feel less confident than the Lord to declare?

 

thank you =-)

 

sounds just and great and hopeful

 

A New and Specialized Ordinance and Custom

As the Apostles gave spiritual customs and traditions to the churches, so also I am giving you a spiritual and moral custom of superior excellence that will work potently when needed.

 

I have never before seen or slightly even heard of a “parabolic repentance” but I am giving it to you as a healthy instruction on how to make much of your life into truth

 

Not as Something Owed, But As A Privileged Opportunity to Testify

A Parabolic Repentance is not about you “getting right with God”, it’s about you preaching the truth of your repentance after “getting right with God”, and it is about dishing out some Justice for the sake of the Words of God that are now upon you.

 

Parabolic Repentance is called “Parabolic” because it almost always assumes that you have already been forgiven of all your sins and made completely clean by faith in the Blood of God. The only thing left after being forgiven is to seize your new life and make much of your repentance and faith to reinforce the good announcement, contradict everything of your past motives and sins with the new call of repentance and life.

 

Zacchaeus did the Justice of believing in the real Jesus and worshiping His favor, and was righteous-ified by faith, and he sealed up and completed his faith by doing restitution.

 

Parabolic repentance is somewhat along the lines of post-forgiveness restitution -- for all those who have been forgiven and cleaned, it is a privilege to do a tribute and testimony unto Justice and declare the matter in truth.

 

Acts 19 – Repented Publicly & Burned Their Magic Books

---- >> include above /\/\

Act_19:18 CAB And many of those who had believed were coming, confessing and disclosing their deeds.

Act_19:18  πολλοί τε τῶν πεπιστευκότων ἤρχοντο ἐξομολογούμενοι καὶ ἀναγγέλλοντες τὰς πράξεις αὐτῶν.

Act_19:19 And many of those who were practicing magic brought together their books and burned them up before everyone. And they counted up the prices of them, and found it to be fifty thousand pieces of silver.

Act_19:19  ἱκανοὶ δὲ τῶν τὰ περίεργα πραξάντων συνενέγκαντες τὰς βίβλους κατέκαιον ἐνώπιον πάντων· καὶ συνεψήφισαν τὰς τιμὰς αὐτῶν καὶ εὗρον ἀργυρίου μυριάδας πέντε.

 

When saying all of these things, of course we are not willing to even begin to "know people according to the flesh" as though they are not new creations or something, and we refuse "to make a remembrance again of sins", but in this aspect of making confessions, Parabolic Repentance is really just like every other Biblical example of social confession and testimony of post-forgiveness, horizontal restitution and justice testimony.

 

Just as you also make things right with people after obtaining forgiveness from God, so also in this case, except that in this case it may be a very long time after repenting to God before you find out how to repent to a person. The other unique aspects of this such as "repentance", "forgiveness", and "redemption" are not the actual heavenly events themselves, but they are rather physical, social, horizontal, and parabolic stories of these mysterious things.

 

Luk_19:1-10 – Zacchaeus Like’s Restitution

 

Luk_19:8 CAB Then Zacchaeus stood and said to the Lord, "Look, Lord, I give half of my possessions to the poor; and if I have extorted anything from anyone, I restore fourfold."

Luk_19:8  σταθεὶς δὲ Ζακχαῖος εἶπε πρὸς τὸν Κύριον· ἰδοὺ τὰ ἡμίση τῶν ὑπαρχόντων μου, Κύριε, δίδωμι τοῖς πτωχοῖς, καὶ εἴ τινός τι ἐσυκοφάντησα, ἀποδίδωμι τετραπλοῦν.

Luk_19:9 And Jesus said to him, "Today salvation has come to this house, because he also is a son of Abraham;

 

Luk_19:9  εἶπε δὲ πρὸς αὐτὸν ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς ὅτι σήμερον σωτηρία τῷ οἴκῳ τούτῳ ἐγένετο, καθότι καὶ αὐτὸς υἱὸς ᾿Αβραάμ ἐστιν·

Luk_19:10 for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost."

Luk_19:10  ἦλθε γὰρ ὁ Υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ζητῆσαι καὶ σῶσαι τὸ ἀπολωλὸς.

 

How Long Should the Confession Be

Parabolic Repentance can be as short as a few sentences, or it can be longer depending on the need to be cleared, and its length can also vary depending on the power of God that is present to help you magnify truth. Whatever the case, you want to appropriately fill up in Justice and make the matter good.

 

What Details Should Be Included?

I would not include much details in most cases. For example, I would not default to naming names in this repentance unless the particular need calls for this. As Zacchaeus is recorded generically, so also the confessor may now speak generically, especially with the idea that it can be too detestable to even name past names, or other details.

 

Let the Memory of Them Perish – Forgetting What Your Confessing!

Cringe at the grief of mentioning or remembering the past

 

You shall not even mention their names

Review: Hosea 2 Restoration -- Cleaning Mouth And Memory

 

Things to Forget

·         Fornication

·         Dating

·         Any slight attractions / violations / compromises at all whatsoever

 

An Attached Phrase for the Sake of Reverence

Many conservative Jews (and Muslims) may say, ‘blessed be he’ after mentioning “God” (or a prophet) so that they will not refer to the Divine in vain. (They don’t want to say “God” without praising His name or something to add value and protect the mentioning of Him against being a vain reference). For us gentiles, maybe we can have an institution among us with similar reverence, yet for opposite needs, whenever saying anything about our immoral past.

 

If Any Of Us Mentions The Past

Though Justice and reverence cringes at the loathsomeness of it, stating the theoretical facts of information from the past that is supposedly correct (although you might have forgotten it by now) may be required at times, yet, especially if it involves our sin and defilements, maybe we could seek to regularly and appropriately accompany this with something like, "may the shameful memory of it perish" / "be forgotten and erased".

And yes, let the memories themselves indeed perish, so that the passions of your memory might fill up in even more Justice...

And so that you can give over an answer that is reasonable for the romantic fire of their jealousy…

 

Note: Also disown and let perish every worthless tendency and personality trait of who you were at that time when you were sinning.  Whatever you learn while you’re sinning, you should be careful to test it and not take anything for granted. Find ways to sacred-ify a new start as a new creation. For the most part, we should only seek to “redeem” the original intentions of God within your humanity.

 

The Great Risk of a Righteous Man Redeeming a Non-Virgin into a Proper Wife

·         Even if a man had special faith, by default, an extremely courageous man would have to receive a Rahab by faith, and wait and see if his faith and hope and amazement with her new character was right!

·         And if he were wrong, wow, he would be risking everything!

·         If a merciful and loving man were to seek to physically redeem a woman, he is still taking a great risk in doing so of being completely shamed, hurt, and wounded, lest at any time she have any non-exclusivity in her at all by the slightest hint of predefined sexuality due to retaining anything at all of exposure to other men

·         Of course, it's not just that there would be a biological difference, but that there might correlate with that the natural consequence of an evil and defiled woman

·         Although a widow (for example) has previous marital experience and has the biological signs to prove that, yet she can still be safer for a righteous man in terms of exclusivity since she has not ever (one would hope) breached monogamy with her character

·         Wanting a virgin is not important just because selfish and lustful men can want this

·         Righteous Joseph was about to cancel plans, and prophetic Hosea put things on hold in desperate times to demand exclusivity

·         Hosea was obviously not being selfish in demanding exclusivity, especially because he clearly wanted full and true repentance and loving redemption

·         Seeking to apprehend greatness by marrying Rahab risks all happiness of the home, and the social heritage and honorable reputation of his whole family forever, not to mention the very name and message of his God!

·         He could be great and make it in the Bible, or he could simply be laughed to scorn as a gullible and cheaply lusting fool

 

If he won in receiving her as his proper wife, this spiritual forgiveness might play out socially to look like receiving a widow in a Jewish community.

 

Evidently righteous men have sometimes been called to this throughout history for special displays of mercy, faith, and redemption.

 

* The Law Says to Marry Someone After Defilement

In most cases, whenever possible, the Law says that the man who ended virginity should marry the one he raped or fornicated with

 

(1) Shechem to Marry Dinah After Rape

Gen_34:1-12, etc.

 

(2) Man Charged to Marry Tricked Virgin

Exo_22:16-17 WEB  "If a man enticesH6601 a virgin who isn't pledged to be married, and lies with her, he shall surely pay a dowry for her to be his wife.  17  If her father utterly refuses to give her to him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.

Exo_22:16-17 CAB  And if anyone deceive a virgin that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her for a wife to himself.  17  And if her father positively refuses, and will not consent to give her to him for a wife, he shall pay compensation to her father according to the amount of the dowry of virgins.

Exo_22:16-17 Greek  (22:15) Ἐὰν δὲ ἀπατήσῃ τις παρθένον ἀμνήστευτον καὶ κοιμηθῇ μετ᾿ αὐτῆς, φερνῇ φερνιεῖ αὐτὴν αὐτῷ γυναῖκα.  17  (22:16) ἐὰν δὲ ἀνανεύων ἀνανεύσῃ καὶ μὴ βούληται ὁ πατὴρ αὐτῆς δοῦναι αὐτὴν αὐτῷ γυναῖκα, ἀργύριον ἀποτείσει τῷ πατρὶ καθ᾿ ὅσον ἐστὶν ἡ φερνὴ τῶν παρθένων. --

 

(3) Man Charged to Marry Raped Virgin

Deu_22:28-29 WEB  If a man find a lady who is a virgin, who is not pledged to be married, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;  29  then the man who lay with her shall give to the lady's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has humbled her; he may not put her away all his days.

Deu_22:28-29 CAB  And if anyone should find a young virgin who has not been betrothed, and ·should force [βιασάμενος] her and lie with her [βιασάμενος κοιμηθῇ μετ᾿ αὐτῆς], and be found,  29  the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the damsel fifty silver shekels, and she shall be his wife, because he has humbled her; he shall never be able to put her away.

Deu_22:28-29 Greek  Ἐὰν δέ τις εὕρῃ τὴν παῖδα τὴν παρθένον, ἥτις οὐ μεμνήστευται, καὶ βιασάμενος κοιμηθῇ μετ᾿ αὐτῆς καὶ εὑρεθῇ,  29  δώσει ὁ ἄνθρωπος ὁ κοιμηθεὶς μετ᾿ αὐτῆς τῷ πατρὶ τῆς νεάνιδος πεντήκοντα δίδραχμα ἀργυρίου, καὶ αὐτοῦ ἔσται γυνή, ἀνθ᾿ ὧν ἐταπείνωσεν αὐτήν· οὐ δυνήσεται ἐξαποστεῖλαι αὐτὴν τὸν ἅπαντα χρόνον.

 

Note: the non-binding nature of fornication should not be confused with the lawful and binding nature of the covenant of the Law of Moses. While the lawful Law of Moses requires death to change (Rom_7:2-3) and this is just like the Binding of marriage requires death to end it, in contrast to this, purification after defilement requires forgiveness and supernatural faith and mercy, which the Law could not even accomplish at all, even with death (as seen in Deu_24:1-4)!)

 

** New Covenant Says, Marry ONLY in Lord – NO Interfaith Marriages!

1Co_7:39; 1Co_9:5; [2Co_6:14-16 (if re-applied)]; based on: Gen_6:2; Gen_24:3; Deu_7:3; Deu_7:4; Mal_2:11;

 

This changes everything for those who follow the New Covenant.

 

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Josiahs’ Particular Parable of Exclusivity

 

lest she become even more defiled by being with yet another man

 

                Holy-ification means being “set apart unto special use”

 

                If a man fornicates with a woman, he has set her apart unto himself in a defiling way and made her unsuitable for other men

 

 

Marital Redemption After Defilement – From Old Covenant to New Covenant

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·         If a man fornicates with a woman, he has made her unsuitable for other men

·         Have you been with a man? In that initial essence, it is not fit that you should be with other men

·         This is why fornicating men were charged to take the deceived/raped virgin as their wife, if at all possible*

·         If he has defiled her, then he should bear that evil, and reverse at least some of it by giving his strength to marry and maintain her life

·         Murderous fornications are not morally binding marriages*, but morally binding marriages can lessen the damage of the tragedy that has occurred

·         This is not what God has yoked together yet (i.e. flee fornication1Co_6:18 -- the opposite of God yoking obligations), but nevertheless, if marriage happens to the first fornication criminal, then that helps the woman and society lessen the damage

·         Defilements unto a dirty man is an unbearable pain and trauma that, by default, can be partly lessened/alleviated/diminished/mitigated by marrying them and converting the parable from devil worship to a technically monotheistic picture within marriage

·         The Old Covenant did not provide for purifying a woman from defilements

·         Because of this, it was prescribed that she marry the one who damaged her*, and,

·         Because of this permanent damage, a defiled female was forever barred from marriage to a priest, and because of this, a divorced woman could not return to her first husband at all after the defilement of remarriage, even if the second husband died!

·         The New Covenant says, “You were washed, you were cleansed” -- and that’s really new!

·         Baptism cleans and seals your condemned and die-able body in hope for the day of redemption and resurrection (Heb_10:22) and Act_22:16 says ‘rise up and wash your sins away’

·         Therefore, under the new purification given to us under this covenant, a woman cannot simply marry the one who defiled her in most cases, because after she is truly made clean, marriage has to happen “Only in the Lord”** who cleans them.

·         The new Covenant is able to levy such enormous claims over you because it has such supernatural powers to clean and redefine you -- after you have been so dramatically affected by the New Covenant, it has every right to demand whatever it want to decree over your life

·         Most people who marry fornicators today do so because they hate God and are living lives that are complacent and well-adjusted to harlotries and adulteries, but contrary to this,

·         If a holy man marries a cleansed woman, he is co-laboring with God in agreement for the redemption of her body through a profound parable and definitively forcing her body to be now considered a proper woman/wife by a new and fresh and potent sanctification/holiness through divine faith and forgiveness that an unbeliever has no power at all to produce

·         If an unbeliever marries a fornicator, the best he can do is “settle for less” with her, but since a Bible-obedient man’s faith can secretly clean and holy-ify an unbeliever’s flesh within marriage, how much more surpassingly can a holy man glorify the life of a reverent woman who believes in the profound potency and effectiveness of his service upon her at the official holy-ification of her body at Betrothal?

·         God cleans her from past sin so that she can flee fornication, which she cannot marry as the Law says* now that the power of the New Covenant is upon her** and requires her to ‘only marry in the Lord’

·         God cleans her, she flees, and a holy man works out a defining parable of her redemption by cleanly and morally sanctifying her body, redefining her, forcing her body to be called a “woman” instead of ever being associated as a prostitute, changing her origin to his own rib, all into a parable of Monotheistic marriage

·         Not only are you no longer a prostitute, by the Words, “such were some of you” (1Co_6:11), and not only are you ‘fleeing fornication’ (1Co_6:18), and not only are each of you “allowed” to have a spouse (1Co_7:2), but to all great contradiction of sin and the flesh, now you are so cleaned that you are the proper clean and holy wife of a priest in the New Covenant, with glory that far surpasses the law of Moses

 

In this world you might have been permanently defiled beyond ever having a completely holy marriage, yet in this case, a holy man reinforces your cleansing faith by receiving you as an actual woman and forces your body to be considered redeemed by faith, and clean, and re-sanctified unto clean and moral use...

 

A believing man that marries such a woman really is redeeming her life into something serious.

 

There is a very real and potent and parabolic sense in which, no matter what she used to be called socially, a man redeems a woman from her past when he betrothes / holy-ifies her, and marries her. He works out a work to where no one can call her an unmarried prostitute, but an accepted and married proper wife, and that to a holy man!

 

In many unspeakable ways, this is a moral work, a spiritual deed, a socially profound parable, a loving re-defining, and acceptance of them in faith, an act of loving kindness and goodwill, and a courageous potent and profound redemption.

 

Horizontal Parabolic Forgiveness – The Only Way to Get Horizontal Forgiveness When You Have Been Ordained From The Beginning

Originally titled: Parabolic Basics

 

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·         Marriage on earth is a parable of marriage to God

·         Both Fornication and adultery are also parables sovereignly ordained by God to represent sleeping with the devil. (Remember that God is in control of everything, including how people might sin, just as it was God who made the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil in the garden of Eden.)

·         Idolatry and fornication are both so evil and defiling and detestable before God that they deserve death

·         The physical and the spiritual repeatedly go hand-in-hand throughout history

·         When you stop sleeping with the devil and come to God, you must be cleaned up and washed and purified from your filth, and set apart unto holiness, that is, “betrothal”, in order to come be with your lawful and ordained man, Jesus

·         If you have committed spiritual fornication, then your ordained man, Jesus, must forgive you, and ONLY HE can contradict the normal course of nature and redeem you again into a spiritual virgin so that you are even capable and suitable to be with Him, even though He is “another man”*.

·         If you have committed physical fornication, with its parable link to being in bed with satan, and yet somehow you have the extra and shocking privilege of being truly ordained unto a physical man from the beginning, in this lawful parable, only He can "forgive" you physically, as it says, “to [fig. against] you alone have I sinned” (Psa_51:4 – σοὶ μόνῳ ἥμαρτον), and only He can contradict the normal course of nature, and supernaturally wash you, and place his own potency and holiness on the line to sacrificially redeem you, just as Jesus washed His own bride in His own blood, and only he can redeem your body unto all womanhood.

·         Remember that we said the non-exclusivity was premarital adultery -- this is as Tobit says, “for she is appointed unto thee from the beginning [ὅτι σοὶ αὐτὴ ἡτοιμασμένη ἦν ἀπὸ τοῦ αἰῶνος]” -- God is very aware of who He matched people up to, and the value of calling is something that starts before you were born… and it calls for absolute faithfulness your whole life!

·         Remember: Even if most humans can’t bear to take things this far, not so with us, since we want to max out beyond all others on fully blasting this parable out of this world with spirituality that overflows every single correlating detail that is so spiritual it provokes the marriage from heaven to come after people finally did it right in the accurate way that God has been waiting for a long time…

·         Therefore if a woman fornicates she does pre-marital adultery against the one whom she was ordained unto from the beginning, and even though she may have repented unto God many years ago, now that she finally meets the one whom she long ago sinned against, she is eager to make much of her repentance and exclusivity unto him with all her faith and ability and understanding and eagerness

·         It is a shocking privilege for a woman to be married by a holy person after fornication, and it is the perfectly correlating parable to the fact that it is shocking that God, being THE Holy One, would forgive people and redeem them unto Himself. God made these things as parables for a reason, and they truly display the amazingness of forgiveness.

·         If he truly is your ordained and lawful man from the beginning, then only he can say you are horizontally “forgiven” for physically sinning against Him, in the same way as you are spiritually dependent on God for vertical forgiveness after sinning against Him

·         And while it is obvious that God is the One who forgives all your sins and makes you clean in every way, yet without any contradiction, it is equally obvious that God often uses people in various ways to vertically forgive you when He works through them, and it is also the case that parables are used as one of the vehicles to preach this mystery horizontally

·         While your past sins are truly forgiven, and you are absolutely forbidden to feel guilty after receiving the blood of Jesus and having been washed with the water of baptism, yet there is a parable to play, and there is truth at hand, and there is another baptism on its way, since, if you have a man who is sufficiently parable-minded, he also is going to baptize you in like manner for the mysterious and parabolic scene of forgiveness and redemption of your body, and in holy-ifying you unto himself, he will immerse you into His own name...

·         As God forgave Israel and insisted on her returning to Himself in passages like Jeremiah 3, so also a spiritual man can work out a parable of sanctification upon your flesh based on his authority over your body, when he forgives and redefines you into cleanness by faith

·         Parabolic repentance, forgiveness, and redemption has its exciting place among the righteous as a powerful parable of truth to preach to the nations

 

Tob_6:17 b Br but when thou shalt come to her, rise up both of you, and pray [βοήσατε] to God which is merciful [τὸν ἐλεήμονα θεόν], who will have pity on you [ἐλεήσει], and save you [σώσει ὑμᾶς]: fear not [μὴ φοβοῦ], ·for she is appointed unto thee from the beginning [ὅτι σοὶ αὐτὴ ἡτοιμασμένη ἦν ἀπὸ τοῦ αἰῶνος]; and thou shalt preserve [σώσεις – save] her, and she shall go with thee [καὶ πορεύσεται μετὰ σοῦ]. Moreover I suppose that she shall bear thee children [καὶ ὑπολαμβάνω ὅτι σοὶ ἔσται ἐξ αὐτῆς παιδία]. Now when Tobias had heard [ἤκουσεν] these things, he loved [ἐφίλησεν] her, and his heart [ψυχὴ] was effectually [fig. exceedingly] joined [glued] to her.  [καὶ ἡ ψυχὴ αὐτοῦ ἐκολλήθη αὐτῇ σφόδρα]

 

Psa_51:4 WEB  Against you, and you only, have I sinned, and done that which is evil in your sight; that you may be proved right when you speak, and justified when you judge.

Psa_51:4 CAB  Against You alone have I sinned, and done evil before You; that You might be justified in Your words, and might overcome when You are judged.

Psa_51:4 Greek  (50:6) σοὶ μόνῳ ἥμαρτον καὶ τὸ πονηρὸν ἐνώπιόν σου ἐποίησα, ὅπως ἂν δικαιωθῇς ἐν τοῖς λόγοις σου καὶ νικήσῃς ἐν τῷ κρίνεσθαί σε.

 

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Horizontal Parabolic Forgiveness – The Only Way to Get Horizontal Forgiveness When You Have Been Ordained From The Beginning

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Obsession -- Proof!!

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Conclusions to Get Zealous for Restoration

Parabolic Repentance | Healed Hymen

After you have repented and been cleaned, you should zealously burn and seek with exceeding faith and ambition to be renewed as virgin as at all possible. Meticulously and zealously re-sensitize every deepest concept your body and soul as though you never had a sexual movement in your life.

 

I wonder if one day we will see more and more glories of restoration beyond human capacity.

 

>re-read: you can be re-sensitized! >> Restoration Must Be Deep

 

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Israel’s Redemption

>>Scrip:/TSK!: Consider all of the passages where Israel was emotionally affected after God redeems them

Then you will know… when I redeem you

You will never open your mouth again

They will look on Him whom they have pierced

 

What Should Any of Us Do?

To whatever degree there is any sorrow or loss or remaining conflict or feelings of lacking "the best" to give over, or any feelings / concerns that a husband might hurt because of your past, or if there is anything unsettled or troubled, you really might want to consider using that as an opportunity and occasion to make something breathtaking and spicy and attractive out of it, by a type of parabolic "repentance" and make a confession and dedication of exclusivity and commitment.

 

ordained

 

A deed like that might just be worthy of its own ceremony.

(composing words for that might call for a blessed coauthoring work of the blessed who have been redeemed.)

 

The Very Sober and Powerful Process of Redemption into Lawful Marriage

 

Understanding the Risks

 

By default: It brings hurt and disrespect on a man to have a woman who has loved and had other men...

 

Are there discussions needed?

 

(Maybe in my own case I have already had so many women casually throw me a bone and then really be happy with other 'more attractive' men. Now if a woman has others to compare me with, it is very hard for me to know for sure that she is indeed going to think that I am far better in every way...)

 

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Healed Hymen

[As seen in the revision dates below, all of this was written before these startling signs were supernaturally fulfilled among us… any insertions are bracketed & marked in red.]

Supernatural Physical Restoration

Parabolic Repentance | Healed Hymen

Other dates (See: Parabolic Repentance); (9/12/15-9/13/15)

Exclusivity--10--Parabolic-Repentance-&-Redemption--incl-MAE-and-Marriage-Miracles-and-Testimonies--11.15.15.mp3

 

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Security Tab

It might be said that a woman’s body is like a jug of milk or juice which has a tab sealing it…

 

There is something fundamentally parabolic about this “security tab” that so profoundly and deeply speaks to the unmodified purity of a woman.

 

This is a physical parable with enormous implications…

 

This is a physical sign that proves that a woman has stored something up for her man. 

 

Monotheists care very much about virginity. 

 

Without this security tab, you would really have to accept a woman’s word by faith that they were pure. 

It would be a great leap of faith. 

What proof or assurance do you have that she will not commit adultery later on? 

 

This security tab is very glorious and important, and it makes it even more profound when God makes mysterious spiritual statements when calling redeemed Israel a virgin…

 

Ultimately, this prophesied redemption has to be fulfilled in days to come…  But in what ways will God preach it? 

 

If God physically reseals you, then this is a statement all of its own. Who can argue with it? -- Even physical Israel would have to admit that a physical salvation had happened.

 

Natural Healings

 

Talmud talks about younger infant girls healing and being restored after tearing, but if a grown woman was biologically healed in any capacity that would be a sign of something very significant.

 

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Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:33 PM

To: Jeff

Subject: RE:

 

Btw most holy overseer,

 

I was reading your words about the hymen in the purity bbs.

 

It does seem possible and maybe a bit common among wicked pagans for the hymen and female organs to heal back to something of an original state after many years of inactivity.

 

There are a lot anecdotal stories of pain and bleeding occurring among harlotrous women who refrained for a long period of time and then decided to continue their harlotrous ways. Many saying it was like their first time all over again.

 

Perhaps the Lord likes restoring such things if he gets the chance.

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Pre-Marital Salvation by Spiritual Miracles

 

If any woman could take a hold of anything of biological restoration, that would mean something important spiritually, and I would want to know about any such cases.

 

It might even be beneficial to research this, but I don’t think it would be best for me to research this.

 

This would be a very specialized variant of redemption of prophetic proportions

 

Special Case of Supernatural Healing

Just as we have said repeatedly, each person's calling may indeed shine with its own particular splendor as each one is given special favor and exciting opportunity as God glorifies each disciple to preach a pointed proclamation of truth, until we all culminate into one big light of the world in some sort of composite being that is out of this world.

 

I say this repeatedly lest at any time the glories of variants and exceptions be standardized among the obsessively high ambitions of the righteous.

 

If a woman ever obtains favor to pray and receive biological healing from her past immoralities, this indeed would be a special work on the earth with very unique meanings and implications.

 

If there were ever any case where a woman was supernaturally biologically healed of her past, we all need to know about that.  In fact, the whole world needs to know about that, especially national Israel. All the leaders of the Assembly would be involved in verifying this cloth as Deuteronomy describes, and then it would only be a matter of time until this special proclamation was made.

 

Over and over again God charges Israel with harlotry, but afterward when speaking of her hope and redemption, He makes these profound statements of her being a virgin. Although we "less strict" gentiles can so readily accept things by faith (as is appropriate because that is who we are) this "virginity despite harlotry" cannot by any means really be claimed to a physical Jew without the Deuteronomy 22 blood test, because it is the physical sign which God ordained to their entire nation to insist on and obsess over, and they rightly have ingrained this sign in their awareness and consciences for thousands of years.

 

In the culmination of all things, whenever repentance is preached to Israel, I could deeply wonder what signs might be used and in what way God is going to call them to repentance and re-virginity. And if some supernatural biological healing happened among the righteous it might very pointedly throw them into being involved with calling the Jews to repentance.

 

This would be a case were someone's sexuality, although visually protected in modesty, would particularly be used as a "public parable" of forgiveness, and it would ultimately be a social issue as Deuteronomy 22 with the cloth-testimony of her virginity.

 

How Does This Supernatural Healing Pertain to Me?

A Personal Note

 

Although I am a type of Moses, and,

Although I am leading the Bride out of Egypt (in many parabolic senses), and,

Although we seem to be in the latter part of human history, and,

Although I naturally pertain to the type of substance in the Two Witnesses (since I am a type of Moses), and,

Although it is possible that I might could be a pre-type of one of these witnesses, and,

Even though many of you have sought to suggest that I might could actually be one of them, yet,

 

I have never claimed to be one of the Two Witnesses in Revelation, especially in the ultimate manifestation [“incarnation” (technically: iteration)] of these two figures.

 

If God wanted to prove to me that I was definitely one of these ultimate Two Witnesses, who testify to all of Israel and the rest of the world, then I am pretty sure that He would have my wife supernaturally healed in this way. If that did not happen, then I would be resolved to be whatever else God has called me to be.

 

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Cleaned Prostitutes Better than Dirty Pharisees

 

There is a repeated theme in the testimony of Truth that teaches us that which those who have repented are more honorable than those who have never been saved.

Those who have considered their ways, and repented as the Ninivites, and actually chosen righteousness deserve more recognition, honor, and praise than those who have simply received what they already had.

 

Consider Your Ways

Hag_1:7 WEB This is what Yahweh of Armies says: "Consider your ways.

Hag_1:7 CAB Thus says the Lord Almighty; Consider your ways!

Hag_1:7  τάδε λέγει κύριος παντοκράτωρ Θέσθε τὰς καρδίας ὑμῶν εἰς τὰς ὁδοὺς ὑμῶν·

 

[Original context: Putting natural work ahead of the obligations to sacred work]

 

Harlots and Tax Collectors Are Entering Before You

Mat_21:28-31 CAB  "But what do you think? A man had two children. And having come to the first, he said, 'Child, go, work today in my vineyard.'  29  "But he answered and said, 'I will not,' but later he regretted it and went.  30  And having come to the other, he said likewise. And he answered and said, 'I am going, sir,' but he did not go.  31  Which of the two did the will of his father?" They said to Him, "The first." Jesus said to them, "Assuredly I say to you, that tax collectors and harlots enter the kingdom of God before you.

Mat_21:28-31 Greek  Τί δὲ ὑμῖν δοκεῖ; ἄνθρωπος εἶχε τέκνα δύο, καὶ προσελθὼν τῷ πρώτῳ εἶπε· τέκνον, ὕπαγε σήμερον ἐργάζου ἐν τῷ ἀμπελῶνι μου.  29  ὁ δὲ ἀποκριθεὶς εἶπεν· οὐ θέλω· ὕστερον δὲ μεταμεληθεὶς ἀπῆλθε.  30  καὶ προσελθὼν τῷ δευτέρῳ εἶπεν ὡσαύτως. ὁ δὲ ἀποκριθεὶς εἶπεν· ἐγώ, κύριε· καὶ οὐκ ἀπῆλθε.  31  τίς ἐκ τῶν δύο ἐποίησε τὸ θέλημα τοῦ πατρός; λέγουσι αὐτῷ· ὁ πρῶτος. λέγει αὐτοῖς ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς· ἀμὴν λέγω ὑμῖν ὅτι οἱ τελῶναι καὶ αἱ πόρναι προάγουσιν ὑμᾶς εἰς τὴν βασιλείαν τοῦ Θεοῦ.

 

TSK: the publicans: Mat_9:9, Mat_20:16, Luk_7:29, Luk_7:37-50, Luk_15:1, Luk_15:2, Luk_19:9, Luk_19:10, Rom_5:20, Rom_9:30-33, 1Ti_1:13-16

 

And concerning the religious He says,

 

You Are Full Of All Uncleanness

Mat_23:25-28 CAB  Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and unrighteousness.  26  Blind Pharisee, first clean the inside of the cup and dish, so that the outside of them may be clean also.  27  Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men's bones and of all uncleanness.  28  Thus also you outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

Mat_23:25-28 Greek  Οὐαὶ ὑμῖν, γραμματεῖς καὶ Φαρισαῖοι ὑποκριταί, ὅτι καθαρίζετε τὸ ἔξωθεν τοῦ ποτηρίου καὶ τῆς παροψίδος, ἔσωθεν δὲ γέμουσιν ἐξ ἁρπαγῆς καὶ ἀδικίας.  26  Φαρισαῖε τυφλέ, καθάρισον πρῶτον τὸ ἐντὸς τοῦ ποτηρίου καὶ τῆς παροψίδος, ἵνα γένηται καὶ τὸ ἐκτὸς αὐτῶν καθαρόν.  27  Οὐαὶ ὑμῖν, γραμματεῖς καὶ Φαρισαῖοι ὑποκριταί, ὅτι παρομοιάζετε τάφοις κεκονιαμένοις, οἵτινες ἔξωθεν μὲν φαίνονται ὡραῖοι, ἔσωθεν δὲ γέμουσιν ὀστέων νεκρῶν καὶ πάσης ἀκαθαρσίας.  28  οὕτω καὶ ὑμεῖς ἔξωθεν μὲν φαίνεσθε τοῖς ἀνθρώποις δίκαιοι, ἔσωθεν δέ μεστοὶ ἐστε ὑποκρίσεως καὶ ἀνομίας.

 

All uncleanness? Including sexual immorality? Yes, indeed…

 

You Shall Not Covet Your Neighbor’s Wife

Deu_5:21 CAB  You shall not covet your neighbor's wife [οὐκ ἐπιθυμήσεις τὴν γυναῖκα τοῦ πλησίον σου]; you shall not covet your neighbor's house, nor his field, nor his male servant, nor his maid, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor any beast of his, nor anything that belongs to your neighbor.

Deu_5:21 Greek  οὐκ ἐπιθυμήσεις τὴν γυναῖκα τοῦ πλησίον σου. οὐκ ἐπιθυμήσεις τὴν οἰκίαν τοῦ πλησίον σου οὔτε τὸν ἀγρὸν αὐτοῦ οὔτε τὸν παῖδα αὐτοῦ οὔτε τὴν παιδίσκην αὐτοῦ οὔτε τοῦ βοὸς αὐτοῦ οὔτε τοῦ ὑποζυγίου αὐτοῦ οὔτε παντὸς κτήνους αὐτοῦ οὔτε ὅσα τῷ πλησίον σού ἐστιν.

 

Jas_4:2 CAB  You lust [or coveting] [ἐπιθυμεῖτε] and you do not have. You murder and are jealous and you cannot obtain. You fight and make war. You do not have because you do not ask.

Jas_4:2 Greek  ἐπιθυμεῖτε, καὶ οὐκ ἔχετε· φονεύετε καὶ ζηλοῦτε, καὶ οὐ δύνασθε ἐπιτυχεῖν· μάχεσθε καὶ πολεμεῖτε· οὐκ ἔχετε διὰ τὸ μὴ αἰτεῖσθαι ὑμᾶς·

 

(also: Jas_2:11you have become a transgressor of the law)

 

This law is the same Greek language as Jesus saying not to commit adultery / Lust:

Mat_5:27-28, etc.

 

Rom_7:7-8 CAB  What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known lust [or coveting] [τήν τε γὰρ ἐπιθυμίαν οὐκ ᾔδειν] unless the law had said, "You shall not covet [or lust]." [οὐκ ἐπιθυμήσεις]  8  But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me every kind of lust [πᾶσαν ἐπιθυμίαν – All (covetous) heating up of lust upon]. For apart from the law sin was dead.

Rom_7:7-8 Greek  Τί οὖν ἐροῦμεν; ὁ νόμος ἁμαρτία; μὴ γένοιτο· ἀλλὰ τὴν ἁμαρτίαν οὐκ ἔγνων εἰ μὴ διὰ νόμου· τήν τε γὰρ ἐπιθυμίαν οὐκ ᾔδειν εἰ μὴ ὁ νόμος ἔλεγεν, οὐκ ἐπιθυμήσεις·  8  ἀφορμὴν δὲ λαβοῦσα ἡ ἁμαρτία διὰ τῆς ἐντολῆς κατειργάσατο ἐν ἐμοὶ πᾶσαν ἐπιθυμίαν· χωρὶς γὰρ νόμου ἁμαρτία νεκρά.

 

These “former harlots” who have changed all their affections to discipleship are now cleaner, more exclusive, more pure, more virgin-like, than everything the evil flesh has to offer!

 

Unexposed

5/25/15-5/26/15

 

Unknown And Unknowing

Be unknown as one having known no one.

 

"Forget your people", and 'forget the names of the Balams'

 

You have got to completely forget what certain body parts even look like. Or else how will you worship with every fiber of your being that which you already know?

 

 

Seeing Man Represents Seeing God

 

Forget

If, in a past life of horror, you have known the intimacy of demons (that is, fornication) then let the repuliveness of them be vomited out of your knowledge and memory completely. And let there never at any time be a competitive comparesen between what you now have with the previous knowledge you should not even have!

 

Visual Virginity

Visual Impact is More Important than Women Realize

Women tend to downplay the effect of visual exposure to gender intimacy, but it is what you know by perception that defines who you are. Even though women always need to be dealing with Babbies, there is still something troubled by a woman who "knows a man", even visually, when Marry says, "I have not known a man" -- that's a real virgin!

 

A man ought to always know more than a woman, but if a woman has more knowledge than a man, then she retains her harlotry.

 

Re-Sensitized!

Be sensitive, visually vulnerable, be a blank slate so you can be dominated and defined, be sensitive, impressionable, be surprised, awe struck, astonished, shocked,

 

Your Bubble Can Show Your Level of Virginity

Your bubble shows your vulnerability to value and your success in being re-sensitized. You should be a vacuum for love and value, and you should blush at even the thought of potential value overlapping your bubble.

 

You should tremble with blushing lest any love or value come near you, that you may protect what is sacred...

Let it not be that value passes through your bubble and you did not know it, because you did not know that it was that potant. Don't be so dull as to not feel. Be re-sensitised to become a vaccume for love and value... Then turn around and protect your zealous and potant vaccume.

 

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Original Exhortation…

 

(Daniel/ John 10)

- Enkaine; Hanukkah; “feast of dedication” (KJV)

Mary of Bethany:

- she so desperately needed to be fixed, especially in light of the degradation of her shameful past.

- Received a “renewal of feminine value” that all women need at the core of who they are

- She was captivated by the worth she had received from Jesus

 

- cry out for the renewal of the virginity of your emotions

 

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Why does Biblical abstinence from indulging in premarital romance seem hard while the game of dating seems unavoidable in our culture? – Because you have to die to your idea of romance. Biblical romance is not just the dating game:

Biblical Romance is for marriage!

If you look for romance you will find judgment from God. If you look for God, you will find Him and, (if you’re called to marriage), He will give you romance that is more than you could have imagined!

 

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Purity Renewal

 

“stored up many things” (Song 7 to the end)

> have you blown it?  start storing up now!

> Jesus had 30 years of prep: embrace the buildup of Godly passions

> Now also embrace the buildup of virginity

“a sealed fountain”

 

A TIME of Restoration

·         God divorced Israel

·         Joseph divorced Marry

·         After TIME, God called his people back through Jeremiah

·         Hosea said that his married wife should just “sit” and “wait” in the house for him, and not know any lovers -- i.e. make sure all of the seed and the lust and memory of former lovers was killed off, and the heart had time to learn purity and, hopefully, fill up in chastity as a sobering and painful prerequisite for resuming “marriage as normal”.  A season and a time of hoping for internal repentance and sanity. Space to hurt and be restored

·         Peter went through some sort of an absence of hearing from Jesus (i.e. not full time like it used to be…). He went fishing and seems to have finally been pierced enough to process his restoration.

·         Song: I have stored/laid up many good things for you…

·         Generally: Soberly receive your probation, specifically: hope in your multiplied worth of waiting in virginity / storing up Godly passions

·         Kill off poly-Andrey, favorably and cooperatively learn restored virginity, and learn virtues for the first time that will actually keep you (unlike what your parents gave you)

 

 

Get Everyone Married, Quick

3/16/08 (+Word: Created/Modified); 2/21/17 (recompiled)

 

Remember what we were talking about when I said that God did not make people in general to be single when they are able to marry?:

 

Pro_5:19-20 WEB  A loving doe and a graceful deer -- Let her breasts satisfy you at all times. Be captivated always with her love.  20  For why should you, my son, be captivated with an adulteress? Why embrace the bosom of another?

 

How can this verse be applied if men are not married? He does not give much of any other way to avoid temptation…

He assumes that the tempted male reading this has a refuge from such snares in being faithful to his own wife…

Poor single unmarried men (and women)… God did not design it in his ideal to be so:

 

Gen_2:18 WEB  Yahweh God said, "It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him."

 

1Co_7:2 KJV  Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

 

“Every” in their case would mean the community of the church was to seek out ways to let “every” one get married that was not called to celibacy, and this mint that 13-year-olds were needing to get married, or at least go in that direction!

 

Obviously, this is the ideal, not a “command to marry.”

 

1Ti_5:14 WEB  I desire therefore that the younger widows marry, bear children, rule the household, and give no occasion to the adversary for reviling.

 

>>> He does not “desire” them to remain single.

 

So I guess we should herald:

 

Get Everyone Married, Quick!

 

But you know it is not that easy. Maybe when God’s church gets on and separates herself from the filth of counterfeits she will again be able to represent this ideal.

I pray that it would be so and come quickly.

 

 

 

Obtaining Song of Songs

8/25/07 (Word: Printed); 9/24/07 (+Word: Created; Original title: Song of Songs); 10/3/07 (Word: Modified); 2/20/17 (recompiled)

>> Outlook: could research this further to see if I emailed anything about this…

 

Original Intro:

This is an email reflecting on some of the things that a few of us (including Christine, Angelle and others) talked about one Friday and Saturday night concerning the divine mystery of wisdom, the amazing promise, and the challenge of purity found in Song of Songs. You might do good to talk to one of them or myself about how we applied these verses, because there are A LOT of exciting insights and promises hidden here.

 

I’m including other people who might also be interested in it.

 

Here are some of the verses we were talking about, and more:

 

Chastity and modesty in every way

Son_4:12 WEB  A locked up garden is my sister, my bride; A locked up spring, A sealed fountain.

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Son_7:13 WEB  The mandrakes give forth fragrance. At our doors are all kinds of precious fruits, new and old, [i.e. romantic intercourse] Which I have stored up for you, my beloved.

> If you’ve blown it before by not being “locked up” and you have already stirred up love before marriage by relationships, then start storing up now and let God redeem the sensitivity and “virginity” of the romance of your heart unto an eager and amazing marriage!

 

Only One Eye

Son_4:9 WEB  You have ravished my heart, my sister, my bride. You have ravished my heart with one of your eyes, With one chain of your neck. (also Son_6:4)

 

> How is this possible that he could be so sensitive to attraction to his wife without it eventually becoming old?  Aren’t we taught that this type of thing is only possible for newlyweds? What divine mystery of wisdom has Solomon gotten a hold of here that allows him to maintain being amazed and overwhelmed with attraction to his wife?

She “peeps” at him and he is overwhelmed! Will we think that this is childish, idealistic, and unrealistic, or will we embrace that Solomon is telling us that these things are the promises of God?  Why is it that we are so set to not hope for these things to endure for the entirety of our marriage? Why are we so persuaded by the lies that are against the promises of God by saying that romance must eventually grow old?

 

 

Maintaining Sensitivity

Not allowing “familiarity to breed contempt” through foolishness into relationships

 

Pro_27:7 WEB  A full soul loathes a honeycomb; But to a hungry soul, every bitter thing is sweet.

 

> Don’t be full of contempt being hardened to your relationship and forgetting its “sweetness.” And doesn’t Solomon teach us this very thing?

 

Son_5:1 KJV  I am come into my garden, my sister, my spouse: I have gathered my myrrh with my spice; I have eaten my honeycomb with my honey; I have drunk my wine with my milk: eat, O friends; drink, yea, drink abundantly, O beloved. (also see Son_4:16)

 

> We didn’t make this correlation when we first talked, but isn’t this amazing what he says here about the “honey” of his spouse?

> We see here one of the more important things to realize:

Shallow romance is entirely unbiblical in marriage! He says, “drink, yea, drink abundantly”

 

And it is obvious from the whole book that they are both “hungry” for this “honey” of love:

 

Son_2:4-5 WEB  He brought me to the banquet hall. His banner over me is love.  5  Strengthen me with raisins, Refresh me with apples; For I am faint with love. (also Son_5:8)

 

And on the other hand if we are full, we have this for an inheritance:

 

Luk_6:24-26 WEB  "But woe to you who are rich! For you have received your consolation.   25  Woe to you, you who are full now! For you will be hungry. Woe to you who laugh now! For you will mourn and weep.   26  Woe, when men speak well of you! For their fathers did the same thing to the false prophets.

 

> Those that handle relationships being gradually “full,” (rather than eager) develop contempt over imperfections and will miss all of the promises of romance in their marriage found in the Song of Songs. Because Solomon tells us,

“A full soul loathes a honeycomb…” (Pro_27:7 WEB) and speaking of marriage he says, “I have eaten my honeycomb with my honey… eat, O friends; drink, yea, drink abundantly…” (Son_5:1 KJV) and in a similar way Jesus says, “Woe to you, you who are full now!” (Luk_6:25 WEB) so also he says this to us, because if we have already eaten romance before marriage, it actively fills us with contempt after marriage and forfeits the promises of God for marriage of enduring sensitivity and continued “honeymoon,” as described in the Song of Songs.

 

1Pe_4:8 WEB  And above all things be earnest [i.e. the opposite of contempt] in your love among yourselves, for love covers a multitude of sins.

 

Love “covers” imperfect people so that we look on them as admiring perfection:

 

Son_6:9 WEB  My dove, my perfect* one… The daughters saw her, and called her blessed, The queens and the concubines, and they praised her.

 

Perfect Stuff

This Hebrew word can also mean “undefiled” (as KJV says) but it is often used as being “perfect” even in the sense of righteousness: Job_1:1; 9:20-22; Psa_37:37; 64:4

This is confirmed when it is translated into the Greek Old Testament as:

τελεα5046 (teleia) which means “perfect” and is the same word used in Matthew_5:48:

Mat_5:48 WEB  Therefore you shall be perfect5046 [τελειοι], just as your Father in heaven is perfect5046 [τελειος].

(same word, different form)

 

So Love makes people as though they were perfect in the lover’s eyes! And isn’t this what God says about us?

 

2Co_5:21 KJV  For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

 

2Co_2:15 WEB  For we are a sweet aroma of Christ to God…

 

 

Forget Sin

Mic_7:19 KJ2000  …you will cast all their sins into the depths of the sea.

 

Isa_38:17 KJ2000  …you have cast all my sins behind your back.

 

Jer_31:34 KJV  …for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

 

Do we have a forgetful God? When it comes to our sin and His love for us we do! So then, how could we dare not do the same as our God has taught us to Love after such promises that He has given us?

 

Eph_5:1-2 WEB  Be therefore imitators of God, as beloved children.  2  Walk in love, even as Christ also loved you, and gave himself up for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling fragrance.

 

Heb_12:15 WEB  looking carefully lest there be any man who falls short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby the many be defiled;

 

So we see that if in any relationship we find ourselves beholding “less-than-perfect” people in our eyes in this way, then we can be sure that we have been duped by foolishness and have neglected the wisdom that preserves perfect appreciation and continued amazement with those God has given us.  Love does not let us despise and withdraw our complete appreciation from our relationships.  It is not Love that lets the honeymoon “wear off.”  Song of Songs promises us this kind of continued love and appreciation while foolish people tell us “Just wait till the honeymoon is over and then comes ‘real life.’” So who are you going to believe and what are you going to go after?

The more we become actively conscious of the imperfections of those we have relationships with the more we can be sure that we have departed from the Love God calls us to, and the promises that He has for us.

 

Three-time Admonition to not stir up love before marriage

Song of Songs Son_2:7; 3:5; 8:4

Each time these are proceeded with physical romantic affection. So don’t start any of it before marriage if you want the marriage described in Song of Songs.

 

It is quite ridiculous to expect Biblical results while living in rebellion to Biblical principles.

If you will read the verses that lead up to these references, then you can see that the idea is that they are saying to us, “You see this marriage that is displayed before you to show you what promises are available from God to you? Do you want it too as we have it? – then DON’T STIR UP LOVE UNTIL IT IS TIME!”

 

 

“The Slump”

I am including this part here by request and it is applications from things I’ve seen and how the Bible addresses these things and gives us hope.  While the previous part of what I’ve written deals with giving you Bible verses, this part deals a lot with what I’ve seen when we don’t obey these verses, and how the Bible even shows us this in a number of ways.

This might serve as an intro to some things we could talk about the next time we meet. These are mostly “nuggets” of thought.

 

Pro_18:22 KJ2000  Whosoever finds a wife finds a good thing, and obtains favor of the LORD.

 

Pro_19:14 KJV  House and riches are the inheritance of fathers: and a prudent wife is from the LORD.

 

Do you see that marriage is inherently surrounded with promises from God?

This is why we mentioned the three-time repeated promise above:

Song of Songs Son_2:7; 3:5; 8:4

 

Defining The Slump

The slump is about forfeiting the promises of God for your marriage.  The first thing that you usually notice after being married, is that many or all of the things that you previously had going for you from God are drastically diminished or gone altogether.  It’s hard to pray. You find yourself very unmotivated for any of the things of truly pursuing God.  Although you know it is not supposed to be this way, you find yourself trapped in a backsliding direction of complacency and God’s hand of favor seems so impossible to find or even lost altogether. What’s worse is when all of this happens and you are too blind to even notice (Jdg_16:20).

To make matters worse, in addition to feeling like a “spiritual looser,” the honeymoon stage wears off and now you feel the weight of being wrapped up in the vanity of life and your marriage is just like all of those other marriages you had firmly declared you would never become like, and who knows, now you only have about a 50% chance that your marriage will even last.  You’ve “grown up” from your simple faith and your zeal is nowhere to be found. Although at one time you used to be so convinced that you could burn for Jesus until you die, now all of that seems so childish and idealistic and impossible to expect. At best you can only grasp at shallow counterfeits in your personality to convince yourself that you have not lost anything.

How is it that you are in this place in life now, when you would rather have done anything to avoid it earlier in your life?

What Just happened? Jesus did not change, nor did one of his promises.  But you have just lost in life and marriage.

 

Instead of God getting to bless you in a marriage, you bless yourself with a slump.

 

Instead of God's hand exalting you in marriage, your own hand partakes of premarital romance and forfeits the reward of waiting.

 

You take romance into your own hands and open the bottle which the Bible said to keep closed.  By this you sabotage the blessing of God for your marriage.

 

Please don’t just settle to be a “flesh-ball” and inherit the slump of hardness in marriage. Take hold of the promises of God and receive the full reward of marriage:

 

2Jn_1:8 WEB  Watch yourselves, that we don't lose the things which we have accomplished, but that we receive a full reward.

 

So for all these things I charge all people: RUN! Run for your life and with all the hope and zeal you have for Jesus and taking a hold of His promises into his holiness and escape from the trap of eating up romance before marriage.

 

And if we are content to settle for a fleshly normal marriage that is lacking in God’s promises, and often is more of burden than a blessing, then we ought to consider what God says:

 

1Co_3:3 WEB  …aren't you fleshly, and don't you walk in the ways of men?

 

1Pe_4:2 WEB  …you no longer should live the rest of your time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but for the will of God.

 

2Co_7:1-2 WEB  Having therefore these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.  2  Open your hearts to us [lit. open up room for us]. We wronged no one. We corrupted no one. We took advantage of no one.

 

Do you hear in this comparative scenario that some of the Corinthians had developed “contempt” and hardness toward Paul? And why should Paul even have to beg them “Open your hearts to us” if they had not been fooled by contempt and lost their complete and eager appreciation and respect for Paul?

 

Gal_4:14-16 WEB  That which was a temptation to you in my flesh, you didn't despise nor reject; but you received me as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus.  15  What was the blessing you enjoyed? For I testify to you that, if possible, you would have plucked out your eyes and given them to me.  16  So then, have I become your enemy by telling you the truth?

 

Can you see that the Galatians had lost their eagerness and though they at first did not despise Paul, their hearts had developed this so that Paul felt like they had made him their enemy? Do you see that their Love had previously made them look at Paul as though he were perfect “…as an angel of God, even as Christ Jesus”? Do you feel the intense treachery and dirtiness of coming to despise and have contempt for those you once eagerly cherished, and befriended with a clean slate and a pure heart?

 

Heb_6:11-12 WEB  We desire that each one of you may show the same diligence to the fullness of hope even to the end,  12  that you won't be sluggish, but imitators of those who through faith and patience inherited the promises.

 

2Pe_1:3-4 WEB  seeing that his divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and virtue;  4  by which he has granted to us his precious and exceedingly great promises; that through these you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world by lust.

 

Col_2:8 WEB  Be careful that you don't let anyone rob you through his philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the elements of the world, and not after Christ.

 

Notice that we are not to be subject to normal human standards and “the elements of the world” but that we are to participate in the divine nature and obtain the promises (including those for marriage) by imitating those who have lived righteously without stirring up love before marriage.

I’m so tired of seeing people hit this slump after compromising and then blaming it on an inherent aspect of marriage, and I want people to rise up and do it right and show the church that God’s promises are true!

The amount of compromise you have before marriage is directly proportional to the amount of promise you forfeit from marriage. The amount of compromise you have is directly proportional to the spiritual slump you secure for yourself and your marriage.  Those who compromise less, have less of a slump, and those who compromise more have even wrecked their calling and all the favor they ever had from God.

I write all of this here because I desperately want to see people obtain what God has for them and not compromise and wreck their calling and hope, and so forfeit the favor of God on their life and marriage because they are not willing to walk according to what God has said for us to do.

 

Causes

Premarital romantic indulgence has the same “type” of hardening affect as extramarital “indulgence,”  (messing with someone other than your spouse) because they are both based on “taking” what does not belong to you. 

This rule of thumb is very true and helpful to be aware of:

 

Whatever your significant other is willing to do with you now before your marriage, they are highly prone to do with others then after your marriage.

 

They both steel from marriage, harden hearts (to righteousness), and result in a poisonous “despising” as seen in Michal after returning to David from her second marriage:

 

 

2Sa_3:14-16 KJV And David sent messengers to Ishbosheth Saul's son, saying, Deliver me my wife Michal, which I espoused to me for a hundred foreskins of the Philistines. And Ishbosheth sent, and took her from her husband, even from Phaltiel the son of Laish. And her husband went with her along weeping behind her to Bahurim. Then said Abner unto him, Go, return [to your home]. And he returned.

 

2Sa_6:14-16, 20-23 KJ2000  And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was wearing a linen ephod.  15  So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the LORD with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet.  16  And as the ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal Saul’s daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart…

Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel today, who uncovered himself today in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the base fellows shamelessly uncovers himself!  21  And David said unto Michal, It was before the LORD, who chose me before your father, and before all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the LORD, over Israel: therefore will I make merry before the LORD.  22  And I will yet be more contemptible than this, and will be abased in my own sight: and of the maidservants whom you have spoken, of them shall I be held in honor.  23  Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

 

Do you see that David was ready to express an intimate part of himself before God because he knew that God would not despise him?

Psa_51:17 KJ2000  …a broken and a contrite heart, O God, you will not despise.

 

Psa_22:24 KJ2000  For he has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither has he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.

 

Psa_102:17 KJ2000  He will regard the prayer of the destitute, and not despise their prayer.

 

Do you see the bitter poison coming from Michal’s extramarital involvement which caused her to despise David, even though he was a “handsome” (1Sa_16:18; 17:42) and “great King” (2Ch_6:6; Psa_48:1-2; Mat_5:35) over an entire nation? 

Do you see the desperately disappointing, and permanent, spiritual “slump” that Michal went into after she had at first been so favorable to David, and even later used by God? (1Sa_18:20, 28; 1Sa_19:10-12). All this happened after David did not lose his sensitivity to his wife as one would probably have expected (see 2Sa_3:13-14; 2Sa_6:20 as quoted above) though she potentially deserved it far above and beyond David.

But this same type of Slump experienced by Michal will be done in us to the degree we are involved in indulging in premarital romance or extramarital romance, and in this way we kill the promises offered to us in the Song of Songs.

 

The Promise

Here is God's blessing in marriage, and the favor He promised, and the "boat" given as deliverance for you from the slump:

 

The sudden onrush of intimacy after having denied yourself romance for so long (while "storing up" for marriage) is the flagship through which God ships you the reward of a favored, amazing marriage.  So don't sink the boat.

When you open romance before marriage you cheapen God's gift and sink the boat that was intended for your blessing.

If you take things into your own hands now, don't expect it to be in God's hands of blessing then. When you take romance into your own hands before marriage by indulging in it, don't expect your marriage to be blessed with favor in God's hands after you get married.

 

All of these compromises set us up to become hardened and to fall to the foolish trap of “familiarity breeding contempt.”

 

Obviously, our hearts can always become hard and in every circumstance even after obtaining the promises in marriage, so we still have to zealously guard our hearts (Pro_4:23) so that they are not corrupted from the simplicity and perfect appreciation of our married relationship. If we believe and obey God, He says we can obtain these promises. I pray that all who fear God in pursuing marriage one day will be able to obtain the promises in total triumph and satisfaction, and never forsake the honeymoon:

 

Son_1:16 KJ2000  Behold, you are handsome, my beloved, yea, pleasant: also our bed is green.

 

Son_2:3 KJV  …I sat down under his shadow with great delight, and his fruit was sweet to my taste.

 

Son_2:16 WEB  My beloved is mine, and I am his…

 

Son_4:10 WEB  How beautiful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much better is your love than wine! The fragrance of your perfumes than all manner of spices!

 

Son_7:10 WEB  I am my beloved's. His desire is toward me.

 

And at the very end of the book they are still going at it:

Son_8:14 WEB  Come away, my beloved! Be like a gazelle or a young stag on the mountains of spices!

 

 

 

Future Additions?

 

Add verse:

Inherit the wind

 

Return to your first love

 

2Co_12:15 KJV  And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved.

> Sometimes the growth of despising occurs even when you extend yourself and you have to be prepared to face this, and still not despise.

> Remember Hosea and Gomer

> If we are going to get all excited about this, then let us soberly look at the reason we did not naturally do it in the first place: because we were afraid that it would not be returned! And if we keep this mentality, then we’ll never step into the promise that God gives because it is beyond the realm of self-preserving conditional appreciation.

 

This should be added to some voice notes from 9.21.07

 

Promises Meditations

Jesus said, “I’ve come that you may have life and life more abundantly” and concerning marriage He has shown and demonstrated this to you in the Song of Songs.

How dare you scorn the promises of life that God has given you by labeling them as the fantasies of Honeymoon and call your delusion from them “real life”?

Jesus called you to His Real Life of taking a hold of promises and you have reversed His reality for your counterfeited doubting delusion! You are as those from Nineveh who “don’t know their left hand from their right” but because you say that your foolish pessimism and unbelief is “real life” rather than embracing the promises in Song of Songs, the Scripture says to you, “because you say ‘I see’ your sin remains.” 

You are not facing real life now that the honeymoon has “warn off,” but you are facing and being convinced by the foolishness of doubt and unbelief that are against the promises of God now that things are harder.

God was making things easier for you in the beginning to show you what was good and right and how He wants marriage to work. Now He calls on you to run after wisdom to preserve and continue in what is good. But if you loose and forget what is good be sure that you have been fooled.

 

What the honeymoon told you, you should have believed rather than being intimidated and pushed down by the deception of contempt and hardness. You should have believed that the promises of goodness were mint to endure rather than insisting that the failure of your fleshly mind was reality and closer to truth than what God promised you.

 

Don't exuse yourself from the responcibility of your failure by lying to disguize it as the "real life" that all people are subject to.  Don't scorn those who dare to believe God's promises as being in "the idealistic fanticy of the honeymoon stage." Stop letting your unbelief be so convincing to you and start taking responcibility to belive God and insist on fighting the lie that you have believed.

Song of Songs is not their for it's own sake, but to instruct you in what is Truth and what is right. The amazing promise of an enduring, life-long "honeymoon marriage" is presented to you through this book teaching you to believe God to take hold of the promises of enduring love for your spouse. Isn't this the crown of forsaking selfishness and doubt and loving others by loving your very own spouse for life in this passionate way?

Don't cling to your own death any longer but believe and chase after the promises of God.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Exclusivity

8/22/14-8/23/14; 8/26/14 (Downplay Your Attractions); 9/6/14; 9/13/14; 10/11/14; 12/19/14-12/20/14 (one who finds peace); 2/22/15 (Taking The Magic Out Of Lust); 3/8/15 (Some Godly Cases of Regular-Looking Marriage & Obsession Marks Exclusivity); 3/19/15 (Thorns); 3/20/15 (recompiled); 3/24/15 (Minimize attractions); 3/30/15; 4/04/15-4/5/15; 4/10/15-4/14/15; several other dates; 4/19/15; 4/27/15 (presented No False Starts!); 5/3/15 (Arranged Marriage); 5/5/15-5/8/15; 5/10/15 (Parable Matchup vs. Generic Qualities Lust); 5/11/15; 5/13/15-5/14/15; 5/17/15-5/19/15; 5/26/15; 7/23/17

 

Here is the Exclusivity Bibles study link: http://www.trueconnection.org/BibleStudies/purity-proclamation.htm#Exclusivity

Note: as always, if you do not see the most up-to-date version of this webpage (i.e. which has today's date in this case) you want to make sure to press F5 to refresh the web page so that you can see the new additions/changes

 

Exclusivity--01--Intro-and--Why-You-Should-Be-Motivated--4.14.15.mp3

 

 

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Who You Want or Who Your Told?

Mary Who You Want vs. Willing to Starve for Special Exaltation

Many other dates (get 2015 points); 7/23/17

Num_36:6 WEB This is the thing which Yahweh does command concerning the daughters of Zelophehad, saying, Let them be married to whom they think best; only into the family of the tribe of their father shall they be married.
Num
_36:6 This is the thing which the Lord has appointed the daughters of Zelophehad, saying, ‘Let them marry where they please, only let them marry men of their father's tribe.
Num
_36:6 τοῦτο τὸ ῥῆμα, ὃ συνέταξεν κύριος ταῖς θαγατράσιν Σαλπααδ λέγων Οὗ ἀρέσκει ἐναντίον αὐτῶν, ἔστωσαν γυναῖκες, πλὴν ἐκ τοῦ δήμου τοῦ πατρὸς αὐτῶν ἔστωσαν γυναῖκες,

>> TSK

 

1Co_7:

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Cry Out for Your parable

10/8/14; 2/21/16 (recompiled)

 

Heb_: the law was a parable

 

Moses and the rock -- God entrusts parables to the prophet... they can do it accurately, or inacurately, and God has still entrusted it to them!

 

Don't say "I am just a woman, what important or great thing can I do?"

 

Cry out for wisdom! Cry out to make much of what God wills for you!

 

Psa: i am fearfully and wonderfully made

 

God demans fruit for all He has entrusted to you, and calls you too

 

Cry out to comepletly fill the great point God has t make with your life

 

Consider

- how much money it has cost to raise you

- how many cells you have

 

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In the multitude of people is the king's honor

Go into the highways and bayways and compel them to come in

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Pls don't read ahead (in general)

 

Intros To Exclusivity

You might not have all your answers right now at this season, but in so many ways it’s the best time for exclusivity.

Better to do it now while there is a particular sacredness.

 

Where Some of Us Are At

Including A few exciting updates

 

(1) I do not have info for others

(2) H

(3) Al

- From much research and careful consideration of repeated predictions of Al, it looks like she is at least going to teach married women how to repent of being evil, and courageously be great and submissive, Abigail-like wives in the face of the most troubled marriages.

 

- This could very well happen in celibacy, as being the quick-learning, submissive Bride of Christ, but (I could also easily believe that) this could take place in the context of her own great marriage as a parable instruction of this amazing submission…

 

- If it included physical marriage, it seems we would need to see assembly…. So intend to keep transporting you all for this and other reasons…

 

- in any case, Al, you should happily act like you are getting married, and your special betrothal to Anointed One is of the highest praise and glory, and is sufficient to make you great… i.e. whatever it means/takes to proclaim that (in celibacy or prophetic marriage), this is going to make you great out of this world…

>> we’ll see about how all of these details play out…

 

Purpose Goal: Solidifying Celibacy While Not Seeking Marriage

 

A lot of what we want to do is to expand off of the original exhortation and hopefully give a critical roadmap for how to accomplish exclusivity...

 

How to Embrace Crucifixion

Our Purpose: Our specific goal, in our case, is not to use these things to get excited and "revved up" for marriage, but actually, rather, we are currently seeking to use the principles of exclusivity (and even "obsession") to learn to minimize all attractions / temptations, for the rest of our lives, in every scenario, up to the point that some of us may one day receive divinely indicated scenarios.

 

In the meantime, we are still on a mission, and I am still committed to not troubling your purity.

 

Future Bliss and Discipleship

·         I also want to let you in on some secrets on how you can potentially gain the greatest marriage possible, for as many of you as may marry someday.

·         We are not only going to cover the particular needs we have, but also the larger principles as a whole.

·         The more you ask, the more you can get, as much as I am permitted.

·         Initially, we want to solve, sharpen, and polish our needs for virtue, but I am of course going to seek to prepare you to teach all nations.

 

Shoe Fitting Applications

·         If I attack the worst-case scenarios, please don’t take that as incriminating you.

·         As far as personal application, this is on a “shoe fitting bases” (i.e. if the shoe fits, wear it.)

·         By the way: Sometimes presenting the worst case scenario actually serves as a contrast to provoke you to know for sure that good thing which God has actually worked out in you and or in us.

·         Some of these things will be intentionally provocative to glorify current virtue. (Feel free to hear from God as to how amazing and glorious things have already been at work among us.)

·         Sometimes attacking what is bad will actually be intended to glorify what is good among us, but in many ways I will pass over things you do not ask about.

 

Shoe Fitting Reminders

Remember that some of the things I am saying may be very well enough to provoke you to know the opposite and glorify the true virtue among us that is good.

When I say it theoretically, I really do mean it theoretically so that you can identify what's up spiritually, and choose to reject what is bad and more solidly affirm what is good.

 

Original Exhortation

How to save yourself from multiple-options before you have them

 

What are going to do when you are around 5 great people?

>> Preparing now as though you’re going to be around five great people, and they will all have the qualities you wanted.

>> it would be better for you to be in that situation because at least it would speak to you about your foundation…

 

If you don’t fix these things now, they will still cause problems even when you don’t have options

 

Otherwise: shaky foundation and don’t know how to fortify yourself…

 

You will be confused, when around 5 great people… you can reap havoc now even though you are not in that situation.

 

Need right foundation so you can sort out God’s voice from your own intoxication…

 

Vs.

 

Disney’s qualifications of qualities… if they match this list, then they must be the one…

 

Curveball are were your faithfulness is tested…

 

Then God’s sobriety will pull you through your intoxications on into greatness.

 

Glad to eliminate possibilities, but also glad I kept digging for more exclusivity so I could have a better foundation for my soul…

 

Exclusivity is based on parable-matchup, not ideal qualities, conveniences, the will of God… being able to say yes or no until shown otherwise…

 

Not what I see or add up with your eyes…

 

Desperate Cave Daughters Syndrome

Lot’s Daughter’s Mountain Syndrome

Lot Syndrome / Mountain Syndrome

Important note: we are not dealing with this story in its original sense, but only in a partial reapplication

 

Lot’s Story – From Sodom to the Mountains

Gen_19:15-38, esp. Gen_19:31-38

 

Gen_19:15 – …ἵνα μὴ συναπόλῃ ταῖς ἀνομίαις τῆς πόλεως

Gen_19:16 – WEB: But he lingered / CAB: And they were troubled [καὶ ἐταράχθησαν]

 

No Change of Appetite When Walking Through the Desert

If you’re put in sort of a desert-like strain you’ll be tempted to attribute divine qualities to potentials that you would not otherwise be tempted to make under normal circumstances with normal provisions. When you’re put in desperate situations then things can be more appealing than there would otherwise be. Don’t be deluded by the desperation of the hour.

 

I’m not really tempted because of who they are but because of how much in need I am.

Be rational and know what your passions are doing

 

Pro_27:7 – To a Hungry Soul, Every Bitter Thing Is Sweet

Pro_27:7 WEB  A full soul loathes a honeycomb; but to a hungry soul, every bitter thing is sweet.

Pro_27:7 CAB  A full soul scorns honeycombs, but to a hungry soul even bitter things appear sweet.

Pro_27:7 Greek  ψυχὴ ἐν πλησμονῇ οὖσα κηρίοις ἐμπαίζει, ψυχῇ δὲ ἐνδεεῖ καὶ τὰ πικρὰ γλυκεῖα φαίνεται.

 

This is usually a good thing, but in the inverted sense, it can be dangerous.

 

Shun Desperation in Limited Contexts

If you had more options, and if things would be less tempting in that potential context, then don't even think about going in any desperate directions in the meantime, because that is not exclusivity! If you could theoretically marry someone else but you consider limited possibilities in the meantime, although that is humanly understandable, it is dangerously treacherous, and it is spiritually unacceptable. -- Although things may temporarily look like potential options, it is treacherous in a context were people are going after greatness.

If you could theoretically marry someone else in faith in a different context, then don't risk and toy with non-greatness in the meantime.

 

Note: At the moment we are primarily considering these things from the vantage point of limited social scenarios, and we will hopefully expand on this more later to make it even more bullet proof in an abundant context as well.

 

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V: How to Not Participate in Your Country’s Pleasures and Correlating Judgment

3/29/15

 

Participate in a country’s pleasures, then you will participate in its judgment too

 

>> how should we escape in America?

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h: Why was lots daughters capable to rape their father. How did they even know how to do this?

Ay: for some reason I thought there was something mentioned about them having been in sodom

Ay: influenced by its evils

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See: Long-Term Purity Protection

 

Long-Term Community Purity Protection? -- How to Maintain it

What can we do for the long run, to be less exposed to each other's general personable-ness & gender dynamics? What more can we do to keep/maintain things for the long run (esp. so that we don't slip in uninspired directions)?

Example: me staying in 55 more...

Seek to avoid circumstances that feel circumstantially flirtatious / provoking / teasing / breeding discontentment (aselgiea)

 

11/3/14

Making little of your attractions means viewing all purity needs as objective, universal needs that call for a limit to exposure.

 

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Avoiding Syndrome of "Lot's daughter's"...

Don't want isolation...

Believe that there are other potential situations if that is what you are called to.

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Avoiding Cave Compromises

Avoiding the Compromises of Cave Desperation

 

Shoe Fitting Reminders -- you really don’t have to take anything personally unless it applies…

 

5/12/15-5/13/15

 

I don't have many of the needed answers for this, but I just want to say things in case I can do something to contributing to safety, sanity, and Orthodoxy. As much as we are helped, I am ambitious to make good safe healthy confessions that God can do good with.

 

You may consider that Lot is great

But there are also ways in which any of the 5 men that might come later are great (their greatness may or may not be comparable to Lot, but we hope it will be at least pertinent...)

 

Wishing for maximum association with exponential levels of greatness vs. Insisting on your specific calling may be a paradoxical challenge in some cases.

 

But that is why we have a blessed hope that celibacy does not mean 'no relationship'... Jesus loved Martha...

>Jesus is forever in increasing glories with these new creations

>even if it felt like current denials meant risking marrying someone 'less great than Jesus', you should still not compromise 'Samson callings'

>with all of the potential conflict, I bless the goodness of NC celibacy...

 

I do not want you to feel like you have to compromise any of the spiritually good, parabolic-ally significant things you have specialized needs for just because the overall tide of someone might be very great...

 

Don't compromise specific parable/calling hopes for the sake that one or more righteous people are the only great people around right now.

 

Only challenge?

Just got to actually figure out what preference are "picky flesh" and which ones are actually righteous and needful parables that you should insist on and not compromise.

 

(In this covenant) Desperate Cave decisions are inherently about compromising even for righteous Lot when you pertain to Samson. You could imagine strong Samson as being more attractive, maybe even in light of your real calling to throw down strongholds or something, but Lot is the only one around and seems so great that it feels like your being picky by not just compromising your potential Samson preferences for Lot.

 

Knowing What You Really Want is A Big Answer

But it is the greatness-es of Lot plus the specific parabolic preferences for Samson, all occurring in one person that is worth fighting to wait for.

 

No Compromise

·         You don't need to worry about making "Desperate Cave decisions" as long as you don't compromise...

·         as for that old flesh, well, you don't even need to compromising its lusts either, because you really just want to go ahead and kill the whole thing on its cross!

·         Ironically, you don't need to compromise great needs for great people.

·         Insist on your calling, and then beg God and insist that it will be great.

 

Why You Should Be Motivated By Exclusivity!

 

Salvation of Exclusivity

·         Exclusivity is premarital monogamy, and post-marital faithfulness

·         Exclusivity is the old path of absolute purity we need today

·         They were unexposed, untainted, sheltered, clean

·         Perfect Monogamous Exclusivity has always been even more extremely vital for women, and is now so glorious that even men are compelled to run in

·         Social barriers were in place to maintain absolute sensitivity and emotional dependence on Father and Husband (and brothers)

·         It is the ultimate winning victory in sexual purity

·         If you are one of the blessed few who win before marriage (which you ought to fight for with every ounce of your breath), it requires faith in what you don't see, and endurance through many of the harshest pains and nasty evils and excruciating trials... If you win, then you are saved and gloriously loved by God indeed!

 

A Harlot [?] is a Deep Pit... Those who are Loved by God will Escape from Her?

Pro_22:14 The mouth of an adulteress [strange woman] is a deep pit: he who is under Yahweh's wrath will fall into it.

Pro_22:14 The mouth of a transgressor is a deep pit, and he that is hated of the Lord shall fall into it. (22:14A) Evil ways are before a man, and he does not like to turn away from them, but it is needful to turn aside from a perverse and bad way.

Pro_22:14  βόθρος βαθὺς στόμα παρανόμου, ὁ δὲ μισηθεὶς ὑπὸ κυρίου ἐμπεσεῖται εἰς αὐτόν.

εἰσὶν ὁδοὶ κακαὶ ἐνώπιον ἀνδρός, καὶ οὐκ ἀγαπᾷ τοῦ ἀποστρέψαι ἀπ᾿ αὐτῶν· ἀποστρέφειν δὲ δεῖ ἀπὸ ὁδοῦ σκολιᾶς καὶ κακῆς.

 

If you win in sexual purity it does pertain to being loved God.

Through rationale and logos and your love for exclusivity can affect what tempts you.

 

·         Obtaining a celibate heart in your singleness can be a harsh context, but it is this absolute denial that is the most honorable and true place to learn exclusivity -- rejoice to learn blessed exclusivity now in your suffering "& leap for joy, because great is your reward in heaven" when you endure such persecutions...

·         Love is the truest Love when you have multiple choices and appealing alternatives and you still choose only one Love over and over again

·         “Learning” to do good when it’s hard tests and changes your heart; just “learning” to do good when its easy just externally conforms you to your circumstance -- what reward/favor do you have?

·         (This is the worst sense in which “needing marriage” is called "weakness" and "un-mightiness" by Paul in 1Co_7)

·         To be circumstantially exclusive in the flesh when it is easy lasts for this life alone, and it adds nothing to your credit as God demands of you, but to be exclusive when frantic and harsh and contradictory temptations are abundant on every side, this salvation lasts forever in glory and honor and praise and eternal life...

·         The less you have exclusivity, the more you need a social “fence” put around you to force you into circumstantial exclusivity by the wisdom of others managing your life.

·         People that have fallen wanted their mind to dwell in naive – ness with an implied belief that ignorance is bliss, even if they never gave over what God most passionately wants… but You should get the happiest when God gets the happiest – the sooner you learn to cooperate, the more blessed you will be…

·         God is not happy when you feel safe, but when you’ve endured trials and chosen what is right

·         When monogamy is already physical, it can be less certain if you have ever changed.

·         You don't just want to be a creature that is constrained to do right, but a new creation that IS what is right!

·         If you wait, it might be too lateIf you wait till you are married, it might be too late to obtain some rewards... you might have forfeited them already!

·         Pass up sacredness, and you have no guarantee that you’ll ever get a chance to obtain that greatness again

·         The most glorious, sacred, and gratifying complete context to test and win in exclusivity is when you have no external affection, and you need it deeply, and you remain in the trust of God with zealous exclusivity.

 

Restoration Must Be Deep

Singleness is also the blessed way to be restored and recreated into a spiritual virgin... – See: A TIME of Restoration

4/1/15 -- Hos: you will sit and wait for me many days... -- A TIME of Restoration

 

If anyone is in Anointed One... New creation

2Co_5:17  CAB  Therefore, if anyone is in Christ [Anointed One], he is a new creation; the old things passed away; behold, all things have become new.

2Co_5:17  ὥστε εἴ τις ἐν Χριστῷ, καινὴ κτίσις· τὰ ἀρχαῖα παρῆλθεν, ἰδοὺ γέγονε καινά τὰ πάντα·

 

·         You don’t want to just stop what you used to like, but you want to completely hate it

·         You want to completely repent and overthrow the entire basis of ever having liked it

·         Repent of the beautiful images in your mind, and harshly reject them in warfare

·         You don't just want the initial devotion of your mind purified, you want your very memories and defaults to be changed and your furthest depths to be marked with exclusivity...

·         For example: when I think about my past I feel like a different person...

·         I do not relate to my past, and it is totally irrelevant...

·         If desires ever happen to reoccur, then I count it as vital to get fixed so I can be assured of a new and perfect and clean life...

·         This is our important goal.

·         The spiritual cheapness of a harlot is more revolting than the appeal of their attraction

 

h: what does it mean that your heart has attached to other men? Is this solely physical attraction/ physical responses like your heart beating fast etc?

Ay: Tara sung "God blessed the broken road that led me straight to you" at their wedding reception.... Glorying in "broken roads/relationships that didn't work" has been unsettling.

h: Does restoration mean that you dont remember what different body parts look like? Especially with unwanted images flashing before you randomly even when you weren't looking for this

 

H: When I'm tempted to lust I remember my mommy and this helps me a lot. Does this mean anything?

 

Healed Hymen

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Parabolic Repentance

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Marital Redemption After Defilement – From Old Covenant to New Covenant

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Horizontal Parabolic Forgiveness – The Only Way to Get Horizontal Forgiveness When You Have Been Ordained From The Beginning

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Restoration Must Be Deep

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Obsession -- Proof!!

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Josiahs’ Particular Parable of Exclusivity

 

Emotional Recovery

A mark of exclusivity is quick emotional recovery from temptations, esp. to where emotionally, you are ok when someone else gets the one you were tempted against.

 

Personal Story: Exclusivity is Not The Gift of Celibacy

P mike seemed a little baffled that I was completely ok and happy when others got harlots that had been used against me. Several times he and several others thought I had the gift of celibacy. It is not celibacy, but moral faithfulness and exclusivity!

 

When you have rationality on your side to quickly pop bubbles you will be a lot quicker in throwing down temptations that you use to be tempted against.

 

You Did Well to Believe in Restoration

You did well to believe the good message I spoke to you about restoration. You did not distrust me or doubt my words at all, but received them with much gladness and happiness and faith. You did well and did not try me or judge me, but you believed me and did well in happily trusting that I told you the truth. Now since you did well to fully believe me and the good words I spoke to you, and you did so well without testing and trying me, I will all the more gladly prove to you what you did not try with doubt, and I will gladly verify to you what Spirit I speak from when saying these things, when I was helped to know and understand and speak and teach... And I wish to show you that these words are also written in the ancient Scriptures... So since you did well to not try me with disbelief or test the saving message, I will prove and show to you more gladly the proof of which spirit I am helped by, and addicted to, and in agreement with as I testify to you of deep and mysterious things that I am often helped to understand...

 

Hosea 2 Restoration -- Cleaning Mouth And Memory

Compare: Let the Memory of Them Perish

 

No Name gods

Exo_23:13 (No Name remembered); Deu_12:3; Jos_23:7, Psa_16:4, Zec_13:2; Jer_10:11

(Gen_26:18; 2Ch_28:2; Mic_5:13; Zep_2:11)

 

Jer_31:34 – "For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."

 

Remove the Balaams out of your mouth...

 

Hos_2:17

Context: Hos_2:10-23

 

Hos_2:10 – Stripped for fornication

Hos_2:11 – No Celebrations

Hos_2:12 – Take Back / Ruin Good things

Hos_2:13 – “the days of the Baals” -- Punished (dished out righteousness) for forgetting husband while luxuriously worshiping Baals / other masters

Hos_2:14 – Forced poverty & trial + God’s Heart-Tugging Appeal

Hos_2:15 – Renewal/restored value as in early days

Hos_2:16 – Generic/basic title used to re-establish orthodoxy

Hos_2:17Polluted names (intensely) lifted out [εξαρω], forgotten/not remembered

Hos_2:18 – Peaceful covenant

Hos_2:19 – Eternal Re-Betrothal in Truth!

Hos_2:20 – renewed faithfulness based on knowing the Lord!

Hos_2:21-22 – God and creation listening to justice

Hos_2:23 – Mercy and fulfilled renewal

 

Hos_2:16 It will be in that day," says Yahweh, "that you will call me 'my husband,' and no longer call me 'my master.'

Hos_2:16 And it shall come to pass in that day, says the Lord, that she shall call Me, My husband, and shall no longer call me Baalam.

Hos_2:16  (2:18) καὶ ἔσται ἐν ἐκείνῃ τῇ ἡμέρᾳ, λέγει κύριος, καλέσει με Ὁ ἀνήρ μου, καὶ οὐ καλέσει με ἔτι Βααλιμ·

Hos_2:17 For I will take away the names of the Baals out of her mouth, and they will no longer be mentioned by name.

Hos_2:17 And I will take away the names of Baalam out of her mouth, and their names shall be remembered no more at all.

Hos_2:17  (2:19) καὶ ἐξαρῶ τὰ ὀνόματα τῶν Βααλιμ ἐκ στόματος αὐτῆς, καὶ οὐ μὴ μνησθῶσιν οὐκέτι τὰ ὀνόματα αὐτῶν.

 

- Glen, as one constantly involved in counseling and deep psychological healing ministries, seemed to think that past immoralities were so devastating for couples to talk about that he counseled couples to not even ask or tell the spouses about their past relationships, or if they were even a virgin...

 

- now much of what I am about to say is in contrast to the praise of your virtue in many ways, but perhaps somewhere it still helps to target some deeper substance and shows what it means to obtain and promote restoration...

- You will need to listen very carefully in faith knowing the truth of what I am saying, although it is in harsh and painful words…

 

- Gomers might be tempted to say, 'It’s no big deal, I'll be faithful now, let me in bed...' -- but it is a big deal... That calls for passionate jealousy for deep, thorough change and renewal!

 

- In this passage, God, as her man, deeply and zealously insists that your mouth and your memory be changed for his jealousy to be satisfied over you... There is a “no compromise” zeal on seeing that the depths of you are revolutionized...

 

- Polygamy worked for men so that they were still men to many women, and even so, fornication affects men in much different ways than women...

 

- God is very aware of her need to change, probably even more than she is, because 'woman was made for man' (1Co_11:9) and he knows about the meaning and significance of her gender more than she does...

 

- a man repenting of fornication can still readily turn around and love his wife in unspeakable ways, but a woman with previous knowledge of sexuality is evil and bitter and polluted in body and evil in heart toward her husband... Despising and undermining his dominance over her, and defying his prized sexuality and thrusting it far from exclusively defining her... Therefore he absolutely demands a renewal and thorough purging of her mouth and her memory...

 

- a man may repent of fornication and flee from it and turn around and still define a beloved wife with his sexuality, but a woman with active knowledge of previous sexuality is evil, predefined by another, polluted and irreverent, cursing the precious seed with unfaithfulness, defying his shadow over her, knowing and touting the flexibility of her impurity over the zeal of His rules... Defying his reverence, undermining his seriousness, mocking his faithfulness, murdering his honor, eroding his courage, betraying his weakness, shaming his body, plotting against his ambitions, destroying his labor, wasting his substance, denying his integrity, accusing his character, wounding his love, rebelling against His authority, unsatisfied with his dominance, and leaving the boundaries of their home, looking for affection from other friends, being treacherous and defiant, shameless and proud, audacious and bold, flagrant and immoral, lawless and hateful, defiled and foolish, selfish and lustful, ignorant and loud, disobedient and sinful, polluted and aggressive for more sin, flirting with his enemies, unworthy of cohabitation, unsatisfied with faith, a hater of good, angry at correction, burnt and seared in conscious, evil and atheistic to the core, a teacher of worldliness and vanity to children, having fondness of witchcraft, a gossip telling lies to vindicate herself, gloating at the downfall of innocent men, a laugher at men’s prayers, pretending goodness while coveting abominations, skillfully plotting evil lest her sins ever be hindered, repeatedly plaguing his efforts toward good, embittering his heart and darkening his house, making him stall and dread to come home, ruining his moments of peace, attacking those who support him, changing her agreements with him lest he maneuver her grief, excusing herself from self-denial, permitting herself to every pleasure, a lover of shame, a never-ending harlot is her who stays in evil and brings it into marriage. Woe to that man, because he has become companion of an enemy for life! And woe to that woman, because she is full of all curses and evil, and she has never gotten out of bed with satan…

 

Because of this, the Gospel of reconciliation & restoration must go out into the earth to do vindication and cleanness again in the Land!

 

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Hos_3:1-3

 

1 Corinthians 6 – ...Such Were Some Of You

1Co_6:11  And such were some of you! But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

1Co_6:11  καὶ ταῦτά τινες ἦτε· ἀλλὰ ἀπελούσασθε, ἀλλὰ ἡγιάσθητε, ἀλλὰ ἐδικαιώθητε ἐν τῷ ὀνόματι τοῦ Κυρίου ᾿Ιησοῦ Χριστοῦ καὶ ἐν τῷ Πνεύματι τοῦ Θεοῦ ἡμῶν.

 

Marriage Exaltation is An Escape From Temptation

9/2/14; 4/12/15

 

Most Men Still Face Temptation After Marriage!

·         There is a marriage that does not relieve couples from temptation – and we should be unwilling to ever let that come near us!

·         Marriages that do not fulfill & “meet each other’s needs” come from failure, not exaltation.

·         Does Pro_5:19 leave you with a prerogative to be tempted with adultery after marriage if you are exclusive?

 

Pro_5:19 – Always Being Ravished With Her Love

·         this shows what you should even be tempted by after marriage!

·         Exclusivity carried into marriage means an eventual freedom from multi-person temptations!

·         Talk about perfect bliss!

 

Exclusivity is Ultimately About Marriage

Although exclusivity is initially about self-denial in singleness, its end goal is exaltation in marriage

 

Despite all of this talk of singleness, exclusivity is not just about how to stay single, but it is also about how to get married. (remember that we said it is also '...post-marital faithfulness'.)

 

Exclusivity is Always Worth it, Even if You Do Not Get Married in this Life

If you die ready for Jesus' return, guess what? You will pop out of the ground ready for His return. If you die a martyr, having stored up exclusive passions for marriage, what do you think is going to happen at the resurrection?

 

(2Pe_3:14 CAB  Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot or blemish;)

(Son_8:10 CAB  …one that found peace.)

 

With a renewed body those stored up Godly passions will still be there, and they will even be there with interest! With a new and Divine upgraded body, all your gender passions will now be upgraded and properly suited for direct gratification in marrying God in the clouds.

 

If you marry out of obsession for exclusivity before you are martyred, then you marry God in this life and the next.

 

Whatever you do, marry the Word of God in your heart, and you will marry God Himself in person in the end.  Some of you might even get a great parable of blessed things to come in the meantime.

 

The Clean Passions of Heavenly Marriage Do Not Endanger Exclusivity

What does exclusivity mean with no specified foreseeable marriage in view?

 

It means living with the hope and ambition that you may be married to Jesus, not by sedating your desires in dead complacency and unattractive, anti-romantic apathy, but in a buildup of godly passions.

 

No disciple is allowed to solve the problem of lust by being anti-romantic

 

The fact that fire exists, and the knowledge that it is used as a positive picture of God, proves that God hates the quenching of passion and romance. The answer is cleanness, not dead complacent numbness and apathy.

 

Those who believe and are clean can freely burn with clean romance toward God without sexual pollution in the process. God is the properly correlating romance for the faith of a new creation. This faith is not against the romantic promises of God in the garden, but rather, its truest fulfillment. If you fulfill the physical parable of romance in the spirit by faith toward God, then you will by no means be defiled by troubling your physical purity in the process, because monotheism is not fornication, but the perfect essence of the marriage of virgins.

 

Virgin purity plus marriage is saved humanity plus God... Therefore if you successfully push saved humanity toward God it cannot make you ricochet backward into fornication, since that is not what it correlates with.

 

You will not by any means be defiled nor will you kill your gender passions so as to be unsuitable for physical marriage (like Catholic heresies often promote). Real spiritual marriage with God is real marriage, and it directly correlates with the parable of truth (physical marriage) that God built in the garden.

 

How can we accomplish this without being accidentally confused and mixed up with our own natural, contemptible, fleshly lustful passions?

 

By the addition of clean and unhypocritical, untainted, unpolluted, unmodified faith, and by the perceptive subtraction of every dirty energizing which is opposed to obedience.

 

2Co_10:4-6 – Pulling Down Strongholds that are Opposed To The Knowledge Of God

2Co_10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war [στρατευόμεθα] according to the flesh.

2Co_10:3  ᾿Εν σαρκὶ γὰρ περιπατοῦντες οὐ κατὰ σάρκα στρατευόμεθα·

2Co_10:4  For the weapons [ὅπλα] of our warfare [τῆς στρατείας ἡμῶν] are not carnal [σαρκικὰ], but mighty [δυνατὰ] by [the] God to the pulling down of strongholds, [πρὸς καθαίρεσιν ὀχυρωμάτων (from ἔχω) – See: Pro_10:29; Pro_21:22]

2Co_10:4  τὰ γὰρ ὅπλα τῆς στρατείας ἡμῶν οὐ σαρκικὰ, ἀλλὰ δυνατὰ τῷ Θεῷ πρὸς καθαίρεσιν ὀχυρωμάτων· […]

2Co_10:5 casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ,

2Co_10:5  [λογισμοὺς καθαιροῦντες] καὶ πᾶν ὕψωμα ἐπαιρόμενον κατὰ τῆς γνώσεως τοῦ Θεοῦ, καὶ αἰχμαλωτίζοντες πᾶν νόημα εἰς τὴν ὑπακοὴν τοῦ Χριστοῦ,

2Co_10:6 and being ready to avenge every act of disobedience, whenever your obedience is fulfilled.

2Co_10:6  καὶ ἐν ἑτοίμῳ ἔχοντες ἐκδικῆσαι πᾶσαν παρακοήν, ὅταν πληρωθῇ ὑμῶν ἡ ὑπακοή.

 

Sacrificing Marriage for Calling Means Great Marriage

Think: Abraham offering up Isaac and then receiving him back as a parable of Jesus!

 

You can faithfully sacrifice bliss-full marriage for preaching, because if marriage does not make much of how God says you are great, then that marriage is of little worth and is cheapening indeed!

 

If marriage does not prioritize marrying God, then there is nothing tantalizing about that to me at all...

 

Give Over a Sacrifice Before Receiving Romantic Input

The real virtue of exclusivity is the crying need for YOU to give over holiness toward God while exclusively putting on hold and reserving all your fiery passions for romantic input from others.

Give over a sacrifice of yourself before looking for the loving input and excitement from anyone else on earth at all.

 

See: The Guilt of Loving Fairytales Over Integrity

 

Great Marriage is The Reward of Exclusivity

One thing is important: that you set your heart on the Words of God and do not settle to be entertained with things that have less than Divine authorship and approval. You should want something serious of perfect heavenly exaltation, and demand to know something from God before risking a disruption of your pure, blessed faith. Every time you get tempted to think about marriage fantasies, use it as motivation to seek God’s Words all the more earnestly.

 

The Reward Does Not Interrupt The Sacrifice – It Properly Fulfills It

If it does not properly correlate in fulfilling it, it is the wrong reward!

Exclusivity before marriage must have its properly arranged exaltation fitted with it to be consistent and uninterrupted with its original righteousness

 

The Divine attitude of exclusivity is a provocative sacrifice that has its proper correlation with the exalting words of God.

 

The divinity of your great sacrifice should match the divinity of your great reward.

 

, so that marriage is not giving up and finally giving into need, but rather than a marriage that abolishes exclusivity, it establishes exclusivity as the very point and praise of it, and truest reward and correlating exaltation for the righteousness you have done. Your pure faith must have a Divine reward that matches its Divine sacrifice so that your exclusivity serves God in the suffering before marriage, and obtains a perfect reward after marriage in the image of God as you look at your spouse.

 

Divine Intimacy that Last Forever

Potential bliss of being intimate with greatness and joyous eternal celebrations.

Get the bliss of getting married, and it is like worshiping God at the same time!

 

The Blessedness of Marriage to God!

Although we are initially seeking celibacy, please allow me a little expression to praise the lot of the righteous whenever they get married in the highest greatness.

 

You want to look at your spouse and say, "I waited in perfect purity, and behold, I won God as my reward in the face of this, my beloved!"

 

Although he knows Himself to be playing the Part of Anointed One, the spiritual man hungering after Wisdom will say, "Look! I married the Divine Wisdom, who is Jesus in a spiritually disguised feminine form!" and the woman, knowing herself to be scooped up as the Assembly, will say more directly, "Look! I married Jesus, manly beard and all!"

Let’s say that again!

The man will say, "Look! I married the Divine Wisdom, who is Jesus in feminine form!" and the woman will say more directly, "Look! I married Jesus, manly beard and all!"

Let me say that again in more detail…

So shalt thine adventurous, profound marriage to God be greatly blessed, in this life, and yet again into the life that is to come!

 

Apply this to your life

·         This is the highest form of marriage exaltation a couple can experience in this life…  And you should lust toward this goal for the rest of your life if you expect to get married.

·         Great Marriage is why You should be motivated by the exclusivity of Celibacy now!

 

How Can a Woman Be 'Divine' in Marriage if She Represents The Assembly?

 

>> Get Heretic verses & info from:

http://atruechurch.info/GodFemale.html

 

If you marry naturally, then your marriage is a natural picture of a supernatural reality.

If you marry supernaturally, it is not only a physical picture, but also a spiritual profound reality at the same time.

 

Physical parable + spiritual reality = great marriage

 

In one sense, it says, 'In Anointed one there is neither male nor female,' so spiritual realities have boundless implications... But in other senses, it is lawful to conceive of divine femininity.

 

First, because the Bible does this repeatedly, especially in Proverbs, Wisdom, and Hebrews.

 

Sir_4:10  To the fatherless be as a father,

and help their mother as a husband would;

thus will you be like a son to the Most High,

and he will be more tender to you than a mother.5 [5 [Sir4:10] Heb(A) “would; and he will be kindly to you, and will deliver you from the pit”]

 

 

Mat_23:37 / Luk_13:34 – Jesus as a mother hen

Gal_4:19 – Paul in birth pains

And Paul’s other endearing and gentle words of oversight

 

Mat_23:37 iGNTGr …ποσάκις How Often G4212 ADV  ἠθέλησα Would I G2309 V-AAI-1S  ἐπισυναγαγεῖν Have Gathered Together G1996 V-2AAN  τὰ G3588 T-APN  τέκνα G5043 N-APN  σου G4675 P-2GS  ὃν Thy Children, G3739 R-ASM  τρόπον In The Way G5158 N-ASM  ἐπισυνάγει Gathers Together G1996 V-PAI-3S  ὄρνις A Hen G3733 N-NSM  τὰ G3588 T-APN  νοσσία G3556 N-APN  ἑαυτῆς Her Brood G1438 F-3GSF  ὑπὸ Under Her G5259 PREP  τὰς G3588 T-APF  πτέρυγας Wings, G4420 N-APF  καὶ And G2532 CONJ  οὐκ G3756 PRT-N  ἠθελήσατε Ye Would Not! G2309 V-AAI-2P

 

God’s Motherly “Wings”

Deu_32:11-12, Rth_1:16; Rth_2:12; Rth_3:9; Psa_17:8, Psa_36:7, Psa_57:1, Psa_63:7, Psa_91:4

The Point: the feminine aspects of God can very much be applied to God's people, both men (Rth_3:9) and women (Rth_1:16).

 

Hos_11:3-4 – a mother

Hos_13:8 – a mother bear

Deu_32:11-12 – mother eagle

Deu_32:18 – God who gives birth

Isa_66:13 – God as a comforting mother

Isa_49:15 – God compared to a nursing mother

Isa_42:14 – God as a woman in labor

Psa_131:2 – God as a Mother

Psa_123:2-3 – a mistress / Matriarch

Luk_15:8-10 – God as woman looking for her lost coin

 

even more to compile...

http://clubs.calvin.edu/chimes/970418/o1041897.htm

 

Furthermore, not only has God been occasionally expressed in feminine form, but this feminine picture is fulfilled in His Assembly, even now by faith, and ultimately when she is upgraded as a fully Divine form to marry God.

 

This affects the way great people consider marriage.

If you marry, you should really want to marry the favor of God, which is God. If a man marries a woman with favor, then He is marrying God, and would not even consider her if that amazingness was not the essential element provoking the ordeal.

 

She is a picture of Assembly, but even the idea that the woman has some mysterious Divinity going on is seen in our upgraded bodies at resurrection:

 

1Jn_3:2 CAB Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He appears, we shall be like Him, because we shall see Him as He is.

1Jn_3:2  ᾿Αγαπητοί, νῦν τέκνα Θεοῦ ἐσμεν, καὶ οὔπω ἐφανερώθη τί ἐσόμεθα. οἴδαμεν δὲ ὅτι ἐὰν φανερωθῇ, ὅμοιοι αὐτῷ ἐσόμεθα, ὅτι ὀψόμεθα αὐτὸν καθώς ἐστι.

 

We don't have a name for it, but it is some sort of joined-with-God-divinity...

 

Does her upgrade blur any spiritual pictures? No, rather, it provokes the most profound parables.

 

The Divine Intimacy of Rationality, Perception, and Awareness

A cheap person treats other humans as base animals, but a noble person cares about the higher needs of their nature.

 

There is this deep-set, higher emotional need inside of man that cries for a rational self-aware creature of intelligent thought to excite all intimacy. -- making her another conscious soul "comparable to him" (as Genesis says), which is more than an individual's own fantasy, and is more than what even animals can do.

...since, for example, the emotional intimacy of a chimpanzee just does not cut it...

 

God Likes Eyes

Deu_34:7 – Moses’ eyes and vigor

Pro_20:12

Eze_1:18

Eze_10:12

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophanim

(Isa_6:2)

Rev_4:6-8

Wiki: “The Hebrew word for "wheel" (ôpannîm) was also used in later Jewish literature to indicate a member of the angelic orders (1 Enoch 71.7; 3 Enoch 1.8; 7.1; 25.5-6, etc.)”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_creatures_%28Bible%29

4/25/15

 

We also see that He hates evil eyes…

Mat_5:29

Pro_21:4

Zec_11:17

 

There are, of course, countless references to the need to have your eyes open…

 

Notice that God likes "eyes" everywhere – this is because eyes make knowledge and perception...

“A picture is worth 1,000 words” – we now finally have a righteous application for this boast

Compare the resolution of cameras with one picture… now how about a video – that’s much bigger

 

The human eye takes in and processes Terabits, or perhaps even Petabytes of information sometimes in a span of seconds

 

The vivid perception of eyes is a wild onrush on knowledge and perception

 

When the potency of this vivid perception is combined with the conscientiousness of a thinking creature who is aware of logos, this provokes exciting and overwhelming intimacy...

 

The intimate knowledge of a logos creature is overwhelmingly love-jolting, value zapping, fullness.

 

The more logos-oriented you are, the more overwhelming the exciting intimacy.

 

See, I told you monotheism has the competitive edge and monopoly on exciting romance and marriage! :+)

 

Animal Vs. Human Eyes

There is not a lot to look at in an animal’s soul, so that's why they do not 'look deeply into each other's eyes'.

 

Eyes Pertain to Human Intimacy Because there is Something Rational In There

Son_4:9 – One eye ravishment…

Pro_21:4 / Mat_6:22 / Luk_11:33-36 – The eye is the lamp of the body…

 

The Image Of Rationality

So also, we are already exciting being made in God's image (with woman participating through man) so that we are made rational, verbal, and thoughtful, and very aware creatures, and our thoughtful intimacy is attractive to God if we are kept holy...

 

Just as all human relationship are superior to animals and add more comfort and worth to your life with their will and awareness

Yet on top of this limited physical form, we also hope to be upgraded to infinite intelligence and rationality that provokes irresistible intimacy from Jesus at our resurrection, and this is knowledge and rationality and awareness to the divine degree, because it says,

 

'we will see Him even as He is' (1Jn) and again, 'we will know Him even as we are known'. -- that is Divinity!

 

1Jn_3:2 CAB Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He appears, we shall be like Him, because we shall see Him as He is.

1Jn_3:2  ᾿Αγαπητοί, νῦν τέκνα Θεοῦ ἐσμεν, καὶ οὔπω ἐφανερώθη τί ἐσόμεθα. οἴδαμεν δὲ ὅτι ἐὰν φανερωθῇ, ὅμοιοι αὐτῷ ἐσόμεθα, ὅτι ὀψόμεθα αὐτὸν καθώς ἐστι.

 

1Co_13:12

 

So also, a cheap woman is for perverts who hate intimacy and love to act like worthless animals, but a mindful and perceptive woman raises the concept to lofty terms.

 

And though we wait for a new body that can handle all knowledge and perception, yet even in the meantime it says,

 

1Co_2:1 – "man can't know...but God has revealed them to us by His spirit"

 

So then we participate in the upgrade, by faith, in the spirit ahead of time as a down payment of ultimate glories to come.

 

A mostly natural woman may indeed be thoughtful and provocative enough with a few virtues, but a spiritual woman who knows truth by God's spirit, she is an upgraded woman that shares in the promise of upgraded Divinity, even ahead of time by faith! And the provocative intimacy of that rationality is out of this world, and marrying her in favor is in so many ways, marrying God!

 

Just as manly Jesus marries a divinely feminine bride, so also with the parable, in that marrying the favor of God is marrying God in the greatest and most overwhelming degree.

 

A man marries a woman because she has logos that makes her intimacy valuable and correlate with him.

 

Jesus gets the Divine Assembly, not only with the eyes of one person but all the miraculous supernatural revelation and logos of all righteous people combined into one unity of being and unthinkably great intimacy!

 

 

No False Starts! No Partial Initiations! – Premarital Polygamy is Intolerable

Presented 4/27/15

Parable Matchup | The Mightiness of Celibacy | “No False Starts!

Exclusivity--03--No-False-Starts--4.26.15.mp3

 

The Unbearable Horror of Premarital Polygamy

 

It is a tragic and unbearable bitterness that you or anyone else might “fall in love” or “have a crush” on more than one person in your lifetimes. It is a horror of dishonor; it is a breach of loyalty and faithfulness and exclusivity…

 

The very principle of “no fornication” absolutely demands that there are no false starts at all!

 

 

Because you CAN choose who you fall in lust with, and you can choose what whims you own as your own, or reject as foreign trash…

 

Guiding principle: If you don’t own it then you cannot leave room for lust to cultivate.

Just like you wouldn’t want your spouse to fall in love with someone at the office; you should not tolerate yourself falling in love with someone now. Because if you do get married it is evil to act like that is not adultery if done before you got married.

>> revise ?? /\/\

 

 

Therefore, let us no longer own or be defined by such evil bitter treacheries* anymore.

* deceits, treasons, betrayals, disloyalties, duplicities, seditions

 

Consider the Pre-Exclusivity of the Patriarchs, and Beyond

>Scrip…

 

Isaac

Dodging the local pagan harlots, Isaac held out long years waiting for his Rebecca.

 

Esau

Esau partook of worthless and evil women and grieved his father and mother…

 

Jacob

Jacob waited for Monotheism like his father did, and even went to the same country as his beloved mother had come from to repeat the favorable scene of his parents.

 

Joseph

After great risks and painful trials in running away from the defilement of polyandry, somehow Joseph was providentially given a sweet Egyptian girl who connected with his favor by God’s exaltation in the midst of an evil and pagan culture.

 

Shechem

Shechem was not exclusive, but touched what did not belong to him – ‘which thing ought not to be done…’

 

Moses

Moses waited many years until he got out of Egypt and found favor from a good father, and then from the hospitality and exaltation from this priest of Monotheism he married a daughter given from purity and truth.

 

Nehemiah

When the remnant was endanger of being messed up with the sins of Solomon, Nehemiah fought fiercely for an exclusivity to valuable marriages.

 

Joseph with Mary

When exclusivity was in question it was righteous for Joseph to seek to halt all plans!

This is very important for navigating truth and the will of God.

 

It has not always been required for men to be exclusive to you in one marriage to be great and coheirs according to faith

 

This also speaks about the nature of women. – If a man fornicated before marriage, she had no place to divorce him, but if she had not stayed pure, it is almost always assumed that she will never be true and clean in Jewish maintenance. (Blazing Exceptions: the surpassing faith of Rahab, etc.)

 

V: Sir you can correct this if I am wrong with my thinking. A man is a pencil/pen and a woman is the slate. It is easier for you to re-sharpen a pencil so it can continue write (define) the slate. However, it is not easy to thoroughly erase what was already written on the slate. It is easier to sharpen a pencil than to erase all trace of graphite/ink.

 

Phillip

While appearing here and there by a repeated Divine swooping transportation, Phillip waited till God “placed him right in front of a wife” before trying other ideas along the way.

 

Also consider the blessedness of Aquila and Pricilla…

 

Summary

While fornicators like Esau destroyed themselves with worthless marriages, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, and many others painfully denied themselves to get great marriage. Joseph shunned adultery and won the exaltation of God, and others did faith and saw miracles in obtaining a blessed marriage to multiply truth on the earth!

 

Tamar Waiting For A Suitor To Marry

·         What was this scene like culturally/morally?

·         How would have Tamar felt if she had, indeed, set her heart on one of the men, entertained romance thoughts of living in their house, and then seen that she was not given to them?

·         She was put in a situation where she was very much tempted to imagine the relief of their gender in her life. If she had messed up in that area, it would have hurt her morally and would have been a non-exclusive fantasy

·         It seems like it’s supposed to be; it really should be; but then it’s not…And that’s a test of your integrity

·         If your craving is circumstances then you are vulnerable to not being exclusive.

·         If you set your heart on the word of God then you have a bullet-proof faith

·         You need a bullet-proof faith that will remain uninterrupted when temptations, distractions, and counterfeits are placed in front of you.

·         You can remain exclusive even in the most impossible looking scenarios

 

We’re gonna do something that no one else is doing so that we can obtain a reward that no one else is getting.

We want to please God to the max out this world with our exclusivity and unthinkable purity.

 

Even if you Are Interrupted By Courageous Death, False Starts are Tragic Evils

Deu_20:5-7 CAB  And the scribes shall speak to the people, saying, What man is there that has built a new house, and has not dedicated it? Let him go and return to his house, lest he die in the war, and another man dedicate it.  6  And what man is there that has planted a vineyard, and not been made merry with it? Let him go and return to his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man be made merry with it.  7  And what man is there that has betrothed a wife, and has not taken her? Let him go and return to his house, lest he die in the battle, and another man take her.

 

Deu_24:5 WEB When a man takes a new wife, he shall not go out in the army, neither shall he be assigned any business: he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer his wife whom he has taken.

Deu_24:5 CAB And if anyone should have recently taken a wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall anything be laid upon him; he shall be free in his house; for one year he shall cheer his wife whom he has taken.

Deu_24:5 Gr Ἐὰν δέ τις λάβῃ γυναῖκα προσφάτως, οὐκ ἐξελεύσεται εἰς τὸν πόλεμον, καὶ οὐκ ἐπιβληθήσεται αὐτῷ οὐδὲν πρᾶγμα· ἀθῷος ἔσται ἐν τῇ οἰκίᾳ αὐτοῦ ἐνιαυτὸν ἕνα, εὐφρανεῖ τὴν γυναῖκα αὐτοῦ, ἣν ἔλαβεν.

 

Whether it is vineyards, houses, or especially women, we can see the seriousness of apprehending the blessings that God has favorably bestowed… God put a premium this…

 

Favorable blessings call for non-interruption (Deu_24:5), all other lusts are evil and should never be started in the first place.

 

It should either show itself of being worthy of non-interruption, or it should not be started in the first place

 

h: Exciting overseer, are you saying that if a man and woman get married the man should not go to work for a year, that for a whole year there is absolutely no physical separation?

 

If “holy war” should not interrupt lawful betrothal, much less should your temporary and cheap attractions defile or frustrate a future marriage.

 

If you have a false start that is not worthy to be protected like this, then it is worthy to be terminated immediately.

 

Now, if the risk of death for the sake of saving the country of God’s people and eternal heritage is not a good enough reason to risk interrupting a lawful romantic thing you started, then how could anything less, such as your cheap and temporary attractions, even be worthy of consideration if it might risk an interruption?

 

And if interrupting romance by death is bad enough, how much worse is it when a first man is still alive!?

·         Deu_24:1-5 – defilement

·         False starts are evil and they ultimately results in defilement

·         If you have false starts before marriage, you might have defilements after marriage

·         Phaltial wanted Michal, but she belonged to another

 

It is worse than a tragedy – it is permanent, life-long defilement!

Only truth can give you a hope for the life to escape such evils…

 

Truth and Faithfulness Happens When You Only Proactively Love The One You Are Going To Marry

 

V: my faithful lord overseer, did Jacob set his heart on Rachel wrongly? What if Laban ended up giving Rachel to another man after Jacob married Leah?

 

Gen_29:18-21 CAB  And Jacob loved [ἠγάπησεν] Rachel, and said, I will serve you seven years for your younger daughter Rachel.  19  And Laban said to him, It is better that I should give her to you, than that I should give her to another man; dwell with me.  20  And Jacob served for Rachel seven years, and they seemed only a few days, because of the love that he had for her [παρὰ τὸ ἀγαπᾶν αὐτὸν αὐτήν].  21  And Jacob said to Laban, Give me my wife, for my days are fulfilled, that I may go in to her.

Gen_29:18-21 Greek  ἠγάπησεν δὲ Ιακωβ τὴν Ραχηλ καὶ εἶπεν Δουλεύσω σοι ἑπτὰ ἔτη περὶ Ραχηλ τῆς θυγατρός σου τῆς νεωτέρας.  19  εἶπεν δὲ αὐτῷ Λαβαν Βέλτιον δοῦναί με αὐτὴν σοὶ ἢ δοῦναί με αὐτὴν ἀνδρὶ ἑτέρῳ· οἴκησον μετ᾿ ἐμοῦ.  20  καὶ ἐδούλευσεν Ιακωβ περὶ Ραχηλ ἔτη ἑπτά, καὶ ἦσαν ἐναντίον αὐτοῦ ὡς ἡμέραι ὀλίγαι παρὰ τὸ ἀγαπᾶν αὐτὸν αὐτήν. --  21  εἶπεν δὲ Ιακωβ πρὸς Λαβαν Ἀπόδος τὴν γυναῖκά μου, πεπλήρωνται γὰρ αἱ ἡμέραι μου, ὅπως εἰσέλθω πρὸς αὐτήν.

 

Then after some drama…

 

Gen_29:28 CAB  …Laban gave him his daughter Rachel as wife also.

 

“Picking up the Pieces” also Happens When

·         A man raped a woman

·         A man lusts after a (shamed?) captive woman

 

Deu_21:11 CAB  and should see among the spoil a woman beautiful in countenance, and should desire her, and take her to yourself for a wife,

Deu_21:11 Greek  καὶ ἴδῃς ἐν τῇ προνομῇ γυναῖκα καλὴν τῷ εἴδει καὶ ἐνθυμηθῇς αὐτῆς καὶ λάβῃς αὐτὴν σαυτῷ γυναῖκα,

 

That’s how important finishing romantic things is: you finish what you start, even if you have to marry someone you raped/who raped you, or marrying a captive woman you lusted after.

 

How Ruth is Different

Ruth took a huge and enormous social risk, (she was not given to Boaz yet) but her courageous actions were based on the Word of God, (1) socially, for the Divine requirement of the kinsmen redeemer, and, (2) spiritually, for identifying and preferring the Divine destiny of the righteousness of Boaz – because her virtue was true and golden, God blessed her with the perception to fight her way into the blessed lineage of David and Jesus!

 

If it is anything less than the indication of God, then it is time to fight for celibacy, lest the labor of your preciously defended gender be spent on empty promises and the vain maintenance of a natural heritage…

 

How Can a Woman Be 'Divine' in Marriage if She Represents The Assembly?

 

 

Arranged Marriage and/or Getting a Prophecy – Is There a Difference?

Arranged Marriages Help When You Are Prophetic and They Can Help Even More When You Do Not Know What Your Parable Calls For

Salvation Marriage

Exclusivity--04--Arranged-Marriage--5.3.15.mp3

Exclusivity--04--Excerpt--Al-Pertains-to-Great-Marriage--5.3.15.mp3

 

“Arranged Marriage” Has it’s Spiritual Implications

Arranged marriage applies to all who obey exclusivity, whether they get married or remain celibate

 

Although talking about “arranged marriage” could imply that you are going to get married, we should still be applying this in general to the trust of those who remain exclusive and pure until God says otherwise.

You are the least qualified person on the face of the earth to decide who you get married to, unless you are prophetic.

If you are qualified to be prophetic enough to choose who you get married to you have suffered for the sake of the word of God beyond the capacity of just about everyone else on the face of the earth

 

Marriage to Jesus

The marriage to Jesus is an exclusive marriage arranged and decided completely by the Father for all those who hope to get married spiritually. – do you remember when Jesus prayed in the garden “not my will but your will be done” God the father decided for Jesus how he would get married.

 

Also consider that we are getting married to Jesus whom we have not even seen. All our hope is based on a romantic Father who demands that we believe Him, and He will not let you change your mind or pick out your own spouse!

 

Having Not Seen Him, You Love

1Pe_1:7 so that the genuineness of your faith, which is more precious than gold that perishes, though being tested with fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

1Pe_1:7  ἵνα τὸ δοκίμιον ὑμῶν τῆς πίστεως πολυτιμότερον χρυσίου τοῦ ἀπολλυμένου διὰ πυρὸς δὲ δοκιμαζομένου εὑρεθῇ εἰς ἔπαινον καὶ τιμὴν καὶ δόξαν ἐν ἀποκαλύψει ᾿Ιησοῦ Χριστοῦ,

1Pe_1:8 Whom not having seen, you love, in whom now not seeing, but believing, you rejoice with inexpressible joy and glorified,

1Pe_1:8  ὃν οὐκ ἰδότες ἀγαπᾶτε, εἰς ὃν ἄρτι μὴ ὁρῶντες, πιστεύοντες δὲ ἀγαλλιᾶσθε χαρᾷ ἀνεκλαλήτῳ καὶ δεδοξασμένῃ,

 

Compare: the Salvation Marriage of Tobias

 

Consider all those in the Bible who gladly submitted to arranged marriages…

·         Adam and Eve – the first marriage was arranged!

·         Isaac and Rebecca

·         Jacob, Rachel, Leah

·         Even Abigail

·         Tobias and Sarah

·         Joseph and Mary

·         Etc.

 

Do You Need The Gift of Prophecy To Get Married?

Prioritizing a person’s calling means you need to know what God is saying.  But how do you do that if you do not yet have the gift of prophecy?  Can only those who have prophecy get married?

 

You need to marry based on what God is saying about the significance of someone else’s parable, but How do you do that without prophecy? – It’s time to re-introduce arranged marriages among the righteous for the glory of the Anointed One!

 

Despite how vital and absolutely critical to the safety of your soul it is to do marriage the right way, it is completely within God’s prerogative to not give you prophecy before you get married. But no matter what you have, you should still be eagerly seeking what God is expressing in whatever means He is willing to communicate with you, and you should use this as a basis before getting married.

 

Even though prophecy is the greatest way that God speaks to men on earth, there is a discipline and a virtue required of all men and women to be faithful with whatever God has given you to communicate his sentiments.

 

If you’ll be faithful with little you’ll be faithful with much. You don’t get to say, “hey let me be faithful with much”.

 

 

 

Be Faithful With What You’ve Got

You can definitively be exclusive before ever hearing prophecy, especially when you wait and faithfully obey what you already have available.

 

Arranged Marriages are A Good Way to Hear What God is Saying

 

There are many deep and morally excellent reasons why arranged marriages are good when available.

It is more of a thrill of excitement to have your whole life decided for you by faith than to go out and be evil.

It is more romantic to get a surprise from God that works, than to do a foolish thing yourself that hurts.

 

Arranged marriages are a good example of how to automatically submit to God's voice even if you do not have prophecy. God's will is often expressed in ordained authorities and general submission to as much accountability as possible -- especially when they operate within their jurisdiction.

 

Note: when others are holding you accountable, you should anticipate that their purity requirements for you are virtually Divine, especially compared to your own drunken standards for purity when going in that direction.

 

Your overseer would feel privileged to arrange as many marriages as possible, if permitted.

 

Ignatius Says An Overseer Determines the Nature of A Proposed Marriage

“If any one can continue in a state of purity, to the honour of Him who is Lord of the flesh, let him so remain without boasting. If he begins to boast, he is undone; and if he reckon himself greater than the bishop, he is ruined. But it becomes both men and women who marry, to form their union with the approval of the bishop, that their marriage may be according to God, and not after their own lust. Let all things be done to the honour of God.

Give heed to the bishop, that God also may give heed to you. My soul be for theirs that are submissive to the bishop, to the presbyters, and to the deacons, and may my portion be along with them in God! Labour together with one another; strive in company together; run together; suffer together; sleep together; and awake together, as the stewards, and associates, and servants of God.”

Ignatius, who is also called Theophorus, to Polycarp, Bishop of the Church of the Smyrnæans

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0110.htm

5/3/15

 

Surprise Marriage Callings

2. » Does The Lord ever do a surprise [with marriage / parable match up], like building David a house where you end up marrying in a situation that was better than you were expecting.
1. » How do you know difference between surprises and compromise?

Submit to authority, your Daddy will let you know. If you don’t have an Overseer then sweat bullets, beg God with tears for integrity, conformation or something. Ultimately you need discernment.

 

Surprise marriages can happen, even when you did not know how you were going to be made great.

 

The Nature of Marriage Itself is a Surprise

Marriage itself is a big surprise, because you don’t actually know who you’re marrying, and what they are like at home, or sometimes even what they look like! Surprise, surprise, God is wise!

 

God likes for people to make huge life-long commitments to someone, and then get surprised by learning all of their elaborate mysteries, and then stick with the faith of your covenant to them for life!

 

No test driving allowed! Your morality alone should tell you what is right and appropriate to do, and you should even be willing to suffer for committing to marriage if it is the will of God for the providence of your life.

 

Adam and Eve

The first marriage was a surprise, totally orchestrated and run by God. God intentionally made Adam wait while seeing many other couples joined and have lots of fun, all without himself finding someone compatible, then with an exciting climax and Divine miracle God made it clear to bring a miraculous new person to Adam. Passionate waiting, supernatural preparation and provision, and full confirmation of God's blissful composed dramatic climactic surprise!

 

Jacob, Rachel, and Leah

At first Jacob exclaimed that they were related, but then her father and Jacob made it open to a marriage thing.

And then again, Leah was one of the biggest marriage surprises in the Bible!

 

Big Note: the hazards of being willfully vulnerable in trusting God with arranged surprises always turns out for your greatest possible exaltation.

 

Ruth & Boaz

Ruth was a shocking and potent surprise to Boaz, who had simply sought to be kind to her in all modest purity.

 

David and Abigail -- BIG Surprise Indeed!

(David and Michal vs. Her sister was also a surprise...)

 

Obtaining greatness in the context of a surprise marriage usually means submitting to the orchestration of an overseer and/or accountability person who administers your adventure. In every case it means the revealed will of God was intentionally held back at first to increase the drama and excitement of the climax of revealing marriage to you.

 

Women Are Naturally Made Flexible

3/25/15

Most people do not know what their parable is, and much less do they know what significances they should be matched up with. And this is one aspect why it can be good and exciting to do arranged marriages. Additionally, women are especially made more flexible because others are usually deciding their life for them.

 

Sir_36:21  A woman will receive every man, yet is one daughter better than another.

Sir_36:21  πάντα ἄρρενα ἐπιδέξεται γυνή, ἔστιν δὲ θυγάτηρ θυγατρὸς κρείσσων.

1/25/15

 

Despite our rich and folly-lusting culture, you should seek to obtain real knowledge while being sure to shun opinionated pickiness and independent preferences which all grow out of folly. By default, women creatures should naturally be happy to be given to just about any man their father chooses. – such is the lot of women!

 

Thankfully, the biggest exception to this is spiritual women who get extra help from God to know what’s up spiritually!

 

Spiritual Exceptions to “Flexible” Women

Think: how should this “flexibility” be different for spiritual disciples?

 

DAP Question (Paraphrased): If A Woman Does Not Just Wait for a Surprise, Then Maybe She Needs to Recognize a Man’s Parable?

“…perhaps you should understand the differences between Moses, Abraham, Elijah, etc. Does parable matching also include preferences?”

Also: Personal vs. Prophetic Preferences – How to know the difference? Your Daddy will let you know and hopefully get discernment. And if you don’t have discernment yet, then go to spiritual female Overseer.

 

Despite the default of feminine flexibility, esp. in the New Covenant, there is more involvement of a woman's will, and maybe she will obtain to special knowledge if she is called to know that.

 

V: our Daddy is different, why can't we be different like our Daddy?

 

h: How is it that things are spoken in the spiritual realm about what things would be like if we were to get married if we dont know for sure if we will get married? I don't think I understand this

 

Your calling should precede your marriage! You don’t have to know your calling necessarily, but you should want to know.

Your marriage does not even begin to be great unless it is within your calling.

 

h: With examples like bathseba who went from one righteous man to another, how does exclusivity take place as far as not taking memories of one man into another marriage when he was righteous?

 

h: Judith had children?

Ay: Adding to the follow up to H's question: Contrast the widow Judith

 

 

 

The Foreshadows of the Kinsmen Redeemer

OT Example: Kinsmen Redeemer

Deep Question about spiritual woman: Does the Old Testament Kinsmen Redeemer foreshadow anything of the exaltation of some New Testament women who are prophetic enough to know the will of God? – Aggressive women are usually very evil, but a prophetically commissioned woman might just be very exciting… – I don’t completely know how or why, but I seem to be looking forward to seeing this happening at least once, despite all the default virtues women are required to have…

 

I foresaw and forespoke of this happening in a bad inverted way to my former brother, and afterward when he called me about it, I said, “Oh, Lord, isn’t this what I said when I was in my own country…” – Despite this sad example, I had already started becoming aware that somehow there was a good New Covenant version of this…

 

Think: “tent pegs” and “swords” make exciting exceptions for women pressed by the will of God to do extra-ordinary things… (If any female disciple is unsure about this, they can feel free to ask me…)

 

Levels of Feminine Flexibility and Knowledgeableness

Level 0: A Selfish woman – whether loose and cheap, or picky and elitist

Level 1: Flexible & Trusting no matter what her father says – (You can even be as great as Abigail and find yourself here!)

Level 2: Understanding who you are – Marriage is limited by what she knows about her own calling

Level 3: Understanding who he is – So spiritual she recognizes his calling and has to marry him (& even maxes out obsessing over his parable defining her calling)

 

If you can get to level 3 before you’re married, is advantageous and is worth going after.

Level 3- That is a spiritual and early apprehending female

 

Ay: how do you "obsesses over his calling defining you", if you said that even within a Tamar setup you should not set your heart on being comforted by a man's masculinity in your life.

Ay: I was left with the impression that unless you are in betrothal (marriage is being established), part of exclusivity is the need to ensure that if you don't have permission, you are to regard other people in a way such that if they were to get married to someone else, you would still be happy.

 

V: wow that sounds like some real self-control to know that and still be "straight face" around him. That's probably why level 3 is the minority.

 

Variants of Feminine Knowledgeableness

·         So spiritual she has the favor of celibacy

·         So spiritual she pulls a “Ruth” at Boaz’ feet!

 

h: Is there something about Ruth that although she was around Boaz for a while it wasn't until prophecy happened that she was able to fully go that way and then marriage happened quickly. Should we expect it to be like this too, is not a prolonged needing to just be around them knowing

h: Oh my ques is more along the lines of the "straight face" of being around them like all the time. That probably wouldn't happen without marriage happening quickly?

 

Al: “As far as exercised discernment: Is cheapening a litmus test that can reveal the difference between wondering before the Lord about parable things VS. getting into fantasy? (i.e. if the result of your “wondering” in essence cheapens sexuality (either yours or others) then is that one way you know you’re dealing with fantasy)”

 

Note 1: “h: Has my mommy come a very long way in these things is this why she correlates with a great marriage already?”

Note 2: These are NOT necessarily levels of Spiritual-ness, but it is levels of blessed knowledge you should strive for… You can be great and get married before your knowledge increases!

Note 3: To emphasize this virtue of flexibility and trust in unfathomably potent and passionately spicy ways, it might be neat to get someone betrothed and or married blindfolded one day. – am I saying something cultish and unbiblical, or didn’t righteous Rebecca jump into a great marriage with no natural idea what Isaac was like? It could be neat to see someone do this willingly by faith… after all, it is RIGHTEOUS for the Father to arrange our marriage to Jesus, without us ever having seen Him! (by the way: Some say that “lifting the veil” at marriage came from Jacob’s surprise ordeal).

 

Ay: In my past life, I was not a typical female daydreamer about marriage and romance but in the glory of exclusivity, I think the most romantic thing is for a groom on the wedding day to perplex the world that he doesn't know what she looks like physically. And if he's asked, "Aren't you nervous?" He can resolutely be able to say, "I've known her before I met her, and she's beautiful."

 

The Point:

·         Despite the feminine defaults unto much flexibility, if you can be aware of what you are called to, it is much better to apprehend that for good ahead of time as early as you can.

·         To whatever degree you have knowledge, to that same degree do not compromise valuable “attractiveness-es”!

·         Make your flesh flexible within the realm of what is good.

·         To whatever degree you are faithful to make your flesh flexible and your spirit knowledgeable, you increase your virtue and the quality of your reward.

 

Not Having Special Knowledge Yourself Means Needing Help Knowing What God Wants

If more than one person could theoretically do in your mind, then you might just need arranged marriage through a perceptive overseer in order to carry out the will of God, because you have not yet seen the specialized essence of yourself or the one you would have to marry to fulfill greatness. – No matter how it happens, it is best if you hear the most you can about what God is saying before getting married.

 

Greater Marriage Means More Particulars, But Not Necessarily Less Arrangement

The greater the marriage, the greater the need for particularity, and the more likely Divine expression will be more pointed and specific. (Notice I didn’t say, “whether or not you heard it”.) But even marriages like this may still use the faithful and accurate arrangement of a helper. There aint nothing wrong with being great like Isaac, getting Divine help from an angel, and getting the infinitely great arranged marriage of a lifetime with confirmations and rejoicing!

 

The Point: Exclusivity is not just about suffering alone before getting married, but it is also about hearing something of what God is communicating in preparation in case you do get married. Whether through prophecy and or through ordained leadership and doing arranged marriages, you should do what God says instead of marrying on human ideals.

 

Normal-Looking Marriage, While Maintaining as Much Greatness as Possible

>> Tags: Regular-Looking Normal Marriage

 

While “exciting” might just be a guarantee of greatness, “Normal-looking” does not mean “not great”. Normal-looking, submissive marriage can definitely still be great before God. We do not get to prioritize the ideals you have conceived in your own heart, or determine what signs God is willing to give in order to express His greatness over your life. The only “signs” you should insist on are those true things you have received in prayer and prophecy. Those are the only things you should set your heart on. You should not assume how God is going to make you great.

 

For some cases, exclusivity may just mean that you are available for marriage, you need marriage, and provision is just placed in your lap. Parental agreement is in place with the woman (esp. if she has an active father), and hopefully there is blessing from every side. The overseer sees that this is good, submission to purity accountability is working, and your good to go! You really can determine the will of God in that way in such cases. – In some sense, if I could just see any example of someone consistently staying pure while getting married I could almost count on something supernatural being involved in this.

 

In all cases, you really can marry whoever you choose, as long as they are not already bound, and they belong to the same God.

In more painful cases, lots of endurance and waiting is needed to know the will of God. Hopefully that particular pain is one of your ways to greatness.

 

The Point: The will of God can sometimes be determined in “Normal-looking” ways. Arranged marriage is a good way to elevate both physical and spiritual marriages closer toward the will of God. In ideal cases, arranged marriage is usually the guaranteed way to know what God wants. In sizzling cases, you be maxing out on level 3!!!

 

Parable Matchup vs. Generic Qualities Lust

Lusting After Generic, Ideal Qualities or Specialized Spiritual Confirmations of Calling

Parable Matchup | The Mightiness of Celibacy | “No False Starts!” | Accept their Restoration By Faith

Exclusivity--05-- Parable-Matchup--5.10.15.mp3

 

Intro 1: Reminders: We Are After Celibacy, Perception, & Greatness

·         Purpose Goal: Solidifying Celibacy While Not Seeking Marriage
“give a critical roadmap for how to accomplish exclusivity...”, and,
“How to Embrace Crucifixion”

·         The main reason we are talking about possible great marriages in the future is so we will be motivated to be absolutely celibate now. – Great Marriage is why You should be motivated by the exclusivity of Celibacy now!

·         Remember we talked about “No False Starts!” & “The Unbearable Horror of Premarital Polygamy

·         Arranged Marriages are an exciting way to ravish people into great marriages assigned by God, and they are almost absolutely necessary (whenever available) to give you no excuse to lust in the meantime or defile yourself in uninspired pursuits of lust.
(by the way: seduction and fornication-like rape go hand in hand, just as great marriage and continual ravishment go hand in hand)

·         We also said that rare Spiritual women can sometimes take hold of increased knowledge early so as to know their parable before they get married, and this is seriously advantageous, and real exciting too

·         The variant of a prophetically commissioned woman could be downright exciting

·         Arranged marriage is righteousness; knowing your parable is downright exciting and sizzling. In any case, you need someone to know what God thinks before getting married if you’re gonna get a great marriage

·         Are you ready to get ambitious to seek and know as much of your parable as you can ahead of time, as early as possible?

·         Ultimately this means hearing and/or perceiving something from God -- but how can you be “taught” to do that? While in most aspects we do not seek to directly “teach” you to hear God, yet we are ambitious to lead by example and provoke you unto prayer with good ammunition to use in approaching God with requests, and hopefully we’ll do even better than Eli did with Samuel in this New Covenant

·         One of the first things you can do to seek out the significance and meaning of your parable is to chop off what is bad and holy-ify your sentiments so that they will be available for requesting truth

·         So here we go: We are pitting “Parable Matchup vs. Generic Qualities Lust” to see who wins in the battle for truth and greatness!

 

 

Intro 2: Generic Marital Ambitions Do Not Matchup Parables

5/8/15

More Mid-Point, General Reminders for all of us

·         No Desperate Cave Daughters Syndrome -- desperate decisions do not pertain to life-long bliss, so it's not what you want if you are going after great marriage

·         We are absolute in our stance: we want to make marriage decisions based on parables and callings, not “Cave Desperations”

·         “Cave Desperations” may indeed be temporarily satisfying, but they are not great and sizzling with Divine excitement

·         We cannot say, "I guess you'll do" (i.e. "so I can get done what I need to achieve", etc.)

·         We cannot make decisions with reckless/unsaved standards

·         Even if you say, "I just need to find someone to help me fulfill my calling" -- even this can be a dangerous motivation

·         Seeking "someone" starts with you, and it treats their significance as, well, "someone"...

·         Seeking "someone": Assumes that they should be defined by your calling. -- If you are that great so as to assume that, then you should already know who they are, vs. 'needing to find someone'...

·         It is not bad to feel generic marital needs, but you are in danger of NOT LOVING them if you carry things out for yourself (as our culture does) in the strength of not knowing who they are

·         If you are generically needing "someone" marital-ly, that definitely means you need someone else to think for you and make decisions for you, so they can help you exclude your own selfish foolishness and leave room for submission to God, which will leave room for you to actually possibly love them according to God at the end of all this! (btw: it would sure be exciting and very advantageous for you to actually know what's up spiritually...!)

·         Either get a prophecy or submit to someone else so that God will work prophetically.

·         Can you maintain encouragement when the worst happens? Or are you going to be disenchanted when shame covers David’s face? This is huge! If you know who someone is then you can really love them. When David was at his “worst” Michal was in another man’s house, and he was left alone to get a prophecy and encourage himself. When David was at his “worst” Michal was in another man’s house VS. Abigail…

·         This is not about how ideal or appealing things could feel, because drunkards are prone to error and making big mistakes

·         We cannot just reason our way into making something work

·         The pressure can be too great

·         Ravaging temptations can be too dangerous

·         It is way too easy to sin

·         Avoiding sin when making considerations is a sign and a wonder in and of itself

·         Staying clean and saving your soul when going in these directions is a rare and scarce hope of barely, maybe making it, even for David!

·         Ultimately, the only solution is apprehending what God is indicating

·         In the most extreme cases all you can ask is, "what is God saying?" (esp. When the stakes are high and the confusion is great)

·         The person lusting after greatness might often have to say, "Look, talk to me in terms of the Word of God, or else I cannot even begin to get anywhere or make considerations at all..."

·         (i.e. Which is why it seems like it would take a miracle for me to get married...)

 

Polygamy to Exclusivity – Higher Stakes Cries Out for More Supernatural Help

Back in the day when Ahasuerus needed to find an appropriate bride to be queen, he did massive polygamy to find the best option. Now with exclusivity upon us we are constrained to only one shot, and we are believing God to do a miracle and make our only goes at this to be the right ones! -- (And you cannot kill your wife if you want to change her out because murder is NOT an option)

 

Whether it is your own marriage or your help with someone else’s marriage, exclusivity waits for a parable match up in hopes of great marriage.

 

The Hazards of Qualities, and the Salvation of Calling

Parable Matchup Means Lusting After Their Calling More than Your Feelings

 

If you are going around and admiring qualities and using that as a basis to consider marriage, you are extremely vulnerable to be lusting left and right for the rest of your life!  Looking for ideal qualities can very quickly make you a harlot at heart, and disqualify you from all the eternal rewards of exclusivity.

Qualities Lust is changeable with each new model that comes out every year, but calling is solid and reliable, never ending, always lasting, enduring, faithful, always en-ravished, always attracted…

    Calling does include qualities and features, but the specs are specified by God, and these specifically correlate with the Divine Words God is saying about you and them, and these features happen to mean something profound and Divine in you and them, so that there is yet greater heated attraction than that cheap and shallow old flesh, and because it is based on a purpose instead of a perishable lust, it is good and never ends. – Note: all this comes from a man who in his past life did not see why a woman complained if a guy said he loved her when it was only based on loving her visually…

    If you start with cheap lust (whether emotionally and or visually) then it will easily blow away with the shifting of time and circumstance. But if you are lusting after God, then none of your desires will return void!

 

Have You Been Tempted?

Example: Maybe you could potentially lust after the appeal of several different types of people, and truth be told, you could have even imagined yourself in a happy marriage with several ideal people in your life (if not many of them!) and each of them might have a completely different look, come from a different background, having a significantly different personality, and a completely different calling!

 

Examples of People Who Hard-Core People Might Be Tempted By

·         Someone discipled by: Paul Washer/Keith Green/P Mike?/etc.

·         Not talking about shabby church people

 

I knew a female who went from being engaged with a rough biker (Nick Schmitt) to marrying a more introverted soft person (Roberto Evans). While they were engaged to the biker this girl even got her eyebrow pierced! – There was a time when both of these guys had something partly useful going on in them. (Although, maybe they were both primarily just being flirtatious with an unknown God, or something…)

 

Beware, lest one day you are embarrassed at how completely off your concept was about who you were going to marry. You are very close and prone toward this if you are going around looking at generic qualities.

 

Natural Parables and Spiritual Matchup

Every lawful couple is another Adam and Eve, and represents Anointed One and His Assembly.

 

Every spiritual couple seeks to not only have a natural accidental parable for this life, but also to have an intentional parable of greatness that lasts forever by matching up in a great and perfect and significant and Divine way.

 

God will use your parable in spite of you if that’s all you want, but you will reap none of the personable eternal benefits of the profoundness of that parable if you only marry in a natural way.

 

A Disciple is Worth More than a Cow

Story: once when I was considering moving away because of the spiritual hostility at home, my mom tried to dissuade me by saying I was appreciated at the house because they did not have to lock the doors when they left... -- But I want to be more than a cow of the earth!! -- and I later said to my sister and niece that even the cows treat each other with more fidelity than our family does… and my sister said, “that’s true”, and my niece always remembered that and later said, “I like how you said that the cows treat each other better than our family does”

 

Cow, Human, Disciple – It Just Keeps Getting More Complex, Doesn’t It?

Cows are thrown into heat without any moral need for marriage, but humans absolutely need lawful and moral ownership before they are allowed to even touch someone else romantically.  Cows have as many shots at love as they find opportunity, but humans only get one marriage for life! God intentionally designed humans to have more complexity and meaning than cows. – And there is yet even more complexity than a natural human when you take on the higher nature of a disciple…

    While many women could have done sufficiently for the rest of Abraham’s relatives (as even Esau was later willing to do), we need a promised golden woman for Isaac!

 

Human Complexities Make Animalistic Purchasing Decisions Insufficient

You could look at a cow and decide to buy it because it has ideal qualities, but the defining particulars of a human personality and its specialized value and character that have been laboriously chiseled over time is so much more than what a cow has the capacity for. The particular complexities of a person’s natural soul are really enough reason to not settle for generic qualities, so how much more specialized is a person above a cow if their spirit is made alive!?

 

Flesh is Not Enough

4/2/15

For a person of flesh, loving someone’s flesh is enough, especially if you are dealing within a covenant of flesh, even as Michal loved David, esp. when he was in the spot light.

 

Gen 8:? & Gen_9:15-19 ~ mk a cov with all flesh...

 

For spiritual people, knowing who someone is and what they are called to and what this means is of prime importance! How are you going to consider a person’s significances if no one knows what God thinks about them?

 

Reminder: Although this specific knowledge is not a prerequisite for marriage, it is necessary if there is need for testing out the will of God. You should not aggressively seek marriage without at least someone knowing what has been ordained and sanctified for greatness.

 

Don’t Reapply Advertisement-Mentality from The World

We learned to look for the "advertisements" of a person in the world, and now we cannot reapply that to righteous people -- they indeed selfishly taught you to selfishly please yourself in your own self-feeding appetites by drawing off of the potential resources of other shallow people of little worth, but now that you have come into truth and are seeking to promote the increased value of your own life and the soul of others, you have to be reserved exclusively for truth. You should use different means of determining how to feel about others, their value, their purpose, and you should reverently evaluate them according to truth and proper value and purpose.

 

A consumer looks for advertisements on how features can benefit themself and feed their own stomach for this life, but a great person looks for truth in others that will serve others with benefits that last forever.

 

Qualities Reoccur, But Calling Happens Only Once

The potential danger of primarily looking at qualities is that they could potentially reoccur in more than one person. Qualities can be generic enough, and when you are shopping for what looks good to you, then you are shopping selfishly in a way that does not actually value who they are. And while qualities can be very generic and even selfish and shallow, looking at calling demands that you actually care enough to reverently insist on having the depth and thought necessary to recognize who they are, lest you at any time be found to have exploited and cheapened their glory with your vanity.

 

Qualities are often generic, but calling only happens in one person.

 

Looking at qualities imagines how their resources can be exploited to potentially benefit you. Looking at calling admires the truth at work in them that might have been there long before you ever came into the picture, and faithfulness with orthodox perception of approved calling craves to enter into that greatness.

 

Looking at Qualities is usually self-serving, but looking at calling focuses your attention and priority on who they are and what is their real value and how you can or cannot max out on the special parable-story God has expressed by their life.

 

If common attractive qualities are used to determine a preference toward an individual, then it is hazardous for spiritual people in most cases. If specialized qualities are used to determine appropriateness, whether these qualities be “attractive” or otherwise mysterious spiritual “fetishes” (if I can use that word), then you have got hope for greatness.

 

Evaluating their qualities in your eyes prioritizes their potential for your value and your appetites, as may appear suited for your own use, but knowing their calling prioritizes your service to God through their value and significance.

 

h: So if someone says I need a David to fulfill my calling oh there's David I shall marry them is wrong? But seeing David and saying wow I need what he has and be attached to his destiny, is this correct?

 

Don't think, as an animal does, on how you might feed on their qualities to self-actualize, but reverently understand what God is saying through their life, and what they represent spiritually, and in what capacities you can lawfully boost real favor by interfacing with that.

 

Esp. when you’re aggressively considering someone in particular. ..you need to ask yourself

Are you in heat because the appetite of your heart is hungry for love, or are you in heat because of the meaning of what God is saying about someone else?

If you’re in heat for yourself then you are in danger of not loving them, and you are setting yourself up for a normal marriage.

 

I learned, thru much pain and agony, that seeking, and even praying to meet your own marital needs is NOT how you set yourself up for greatness. I learned that the way to make yourself great is that you care about the Word of God and you care about serving and benefiting other people, and then God rewards you with more comfort than what you asked for. Greatness means that you find some way to care and benefit other people even when you are in more pain than you can manage. If you do this then you will be considered courageous, and great, and God will repay!

 

Instead of seeking to just put two cows together for a short life of limited pleasure (Oh, how romantic thou art o Disney), you should be seeking how to get caught up (and or even violently force your way) into the great legacy of spiritual Monotheism so that all the God-favored heart-pounding thrill of your marriage will resound with rejoicing throughout all the ages of eternity!

 

Remember These Examples

·         Ruth & all the other daring Monotheists in the Scriptures.

·         David thought he was getting in on a good deal because he loved wisdom, but at the same time, Abigail was humbled that even she as a widow was getting caught up in an explosive deal with being hitched up with David!

 

Before Abigail ever thought about marriage with David, she said…

 

1Sa_25:29-31 WEB  Though men be risen up to pursue you, and to seek your soul, yet the soul of my lord shall be bound in the bundle of life with Yahweh your God; and the souls of your enemies, them shall he sling out, as from the hollow of a sling.  30  It shall come to pass, when Yahweh shall have done to my lord according to all the good that he has spoken concerning you, and shall have appointed you prince over Israel,  31  that this shall be no grief to you, nor offense of heart to my lord, either that you have shed blood without cause, or that my lord has avenged himself. When Yahweh shall have dealt well with my lord, then remember your handmaid.

1Sa_25:29-31 CAB  And if a man shall rise up persecuting you and seeking your life, yet shall the life of my lord [κυρίου μου] be bound up in the bundle of life with the Lord God, and you shall whirl the life of your enemies as in the midst of a sling.  30  And it shall be when the Lord has brought to pass for my lord all the good things He has spoken concerning you, and shall appoint you to be ruler over Israel,  31  then this shall not be an abomination and offense to my lord, to have shed innocent blood without cause, and for my lord to have avenged himself. And so may the Lord do good to my lord, and you shall remember your maidservant, to do her good.

 

And before David ever proposed marriage, he said…

 

1Sa_25:32-34 WEB  David said to Abigail, Blessed be Yahweh, the God of Israel, who sent you this day to meet me:  33  and blessed be your discretion, and blessed be you, that have kept me this day from blood guiltiness, and from avenging myself with my own hand.  34  For in very deed, as Yahweh, the God of Israel, lives, who has withheld me from hurting you, except you had hurried and come to meet me, surely there wouldn't have been left to Nabal by the morning light so much as one who urinates on a wall.

1Sa_25:32-34 CAB  And David said to Abigail, Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, who sent you [ἀπέστειλέν] this very day to meet me.  33  And blessed be your conduct, and blessed are you, who has hindered me this very day from coming to shed blood, and from avenging myself.  34  But surely as the Lord God of Israel lives, who hindered me this day from doing you harm, if you had not hastened and come to meet me, then I said, Surely there shall not be one male left to Nabal till the morning.

 

It is righteous and lawful to admire what God is saying about people long before considering marriage with them.

It is pre-required for someone to know the greatness going on in people before marriage in order to intentionally choose great marriage.

 

The Point: Calling is the Only Thing Worth Desiring

·         “Is it from God” -- this is the only real question

·         If it is not from God, then throw it away from you

·         Divinity is the only worthy aspect to let your heart desire

·         At the end of the day, don’t bring forth any other desires or persuasions
(by the way: did you understand what I said when I said, “At the end of the day”?)

·         The flesh guesses the wrong qualities to identify your great mate in the same way as the soul guesses the wrong spirits and thinks they are gods!

·         God made all of your good preferences, but how will you sift between what is good and what is polluted?

·         A spiritual person will discriminate between (1) what God put there at the origin of your physical creation, and, (2) what you need to chop off from what satan added in the meantime, and, (3) what new obligations to spiritual greatness you have now that you have come into truth

·         Being spiritual is the only way to know your calling and make a parable matchup that results in eternal greatness

 

Understanding Marriage Parables

Addressing some Pending Parable Questions, and more

 

Different Glories

V: With all of what you are saying Sir, how are we going to disciple people who are going to "settle" for just someone in the faith, and not we despise that?

>> each person shines in their own particular glory as each is given a calling and favor to do something supernatural

 

Men’s Parables

4. » Do men have parable match ups too?

>> yes but not all the parables of women are shown the Bible.

 

3. If A Woman Does Not Just Wait for a Surprise, Then Maybe She Needs to Recognize a Man’s Parable?

3. » If not then perhaps you should understand the differences between Moses, Abraham, Elijah, etc. Does parable matching also include preferences?


5. » To what degree does a women's parable shape the character of a man?

>> there are definite aspects of gender that require the primary effect to be a man defining a woman

>> Nevertheless, Women help save men (as seen below…)

>> each person brings something to the table that helps the other

 

How to Recognize Your Parable

This is Ay: Exclusivity Questions from dinner

 

6. » What are the right questions to ask and answers to look for in understanding your parable?

4/15/15

 

Monogamy for Jesus & Men

V

Another thing that has been hard for me is polygamy. For some reason I have a hard time shaking any feelings of spiritual polygamy happening.
I really like the idea of a faithful man that is completely obsess with his wife and nothing/no one distracts him from her. There might be a need to understand exclusivity with males. Things like “God having favorites” has not made this easier for me.

V: However, I do find some hope with the story of Rachel and Leah. Leah is very encouraging to me.

 

“I want to be the blessed ones on the earth that is considered a servant of all.  I know there is much glory in been a servant and the least. However, I see my insides struggling to understand why I should ever desire being a side servant girl that were given to some of the women of old when they got married. It appears these girls were made into concubines at the hand of their mistress and have no hope of ever getting married themselves/being a wife.

The thought of concubines seems almost unbearable to me.  Especially because I do not see any righteous women of old being concubines.
Being a servant girl that is just thrown to a man at the whims of his wife is currently not a posture of content to me.
Being a servant is one thing but giving of myself sexually and then it not be the “center of his world” is probably one of the worst pains I can imagine. Maybe that is one of the reasons I admire Leah so much because she has / have taken a hold of something I need. She was very unselfish and loving towards her husband while he hated her. Just to write this is painful to me.

 

(C) Another thing that has been hard for me is polygamy. For some reason I have a hard time shaking any feelings of spiritual polygamy happening. I know Jesus just has one bride and he is not doing polygamy in heaven. However, things like “God having favorites” has not made this easy for me. God having favorites makes it feel like there's more than one bride. If she is all one bride, why favorites? Favorites remind me of the story of Rachel and Leah and this can feel bitter to me. Why favorites when God should be the place of refuge and safety away from all the competition and strive.
Lets say I was ever in a polygamy situation, I can see myself completely hogging my husband and never letting the other women ever sleeping with him. They would be his wife only in theory. And I see no other way of doing polygamy unless I am the 1st wife.”

May 2015

Righteous Sewing Person

 

Salvation Marriage / Saving Marriage

Goal: Understanding Marriage Parables, and using Salvation Marriage as one example

Exclusivity--06--Salvation-Marriage--6.2.15.mp3

 

Prefaces, Reminders, Notes

·         Although we started with the goal of solidifying celibacy, you’re provocative questions have veered us off back into marriage again…

·         Nevertheless, I have actually wanted to go over this point for a good number of years… (based on some of the things we have asked and reviewed in discussed at times…)

·         Is there a way that you can hear these things and know what virtues you should be going after in your single years?

·         Is there a way you can apply these things to your spiritual hope in God to save you by the marriage from Heaven?

 

Getting Greater After Marriage

Sometimes, in hard-core internship settings it can feel like you have to understand a lot and be fully blasted before you get a great marriage, but some of the examples in the Bible actually seem like they developed into greatness after they got married.

 

·         Gen_17:1 – Abraham was told to be perfect after so many previous revelations (this was when he was old after many years of marriage)

·         Jacob had some early visions of God (for example: Jacob's ladder – Gen_28:10-19), but had even more establishing revelations after marriage

·         Gen_31:32-37 – Rachel – at first she had idols in her tent & lied to her father

·         Moses – Although he perceived God’s expressions in his heart (Act_7:23, Act_7:25, etc.) Moses has no recorded visions until 40 years after he was married in the desert tending sheep (Moses married a Midianite: Exo_2:16-22; Act_7:29; Burning bush: Exo_3:1Exo_4:1; Act_7:30)

·         (Also compare: Jeremiah was told to purify his words after so many prophecies…)

·          In fact, one of the greatest and most defining testimonies to the unthinkable greatness of Moses is in Num_12:1-15 / Heb_3:2-6 (as Al quoted recently about being a testimony), and it is somehow associated with the hot racial controversy of him making a prophetic statement by marrying a Cushite/Ethiopian woman.
(this is one of the two or three main Mosaic pillars of defining Scripture I have been vitally hoping in for greatness from God since about 2000-2002)

 

Note: You may truly get great after marriage, but nonetheless, this post-marital exaltation is usually based on your exclusivity (and other subjected faithfulness-es and sacrifices) before marriage. -- Even if you are not yet as great as you’re going to be, you still need to be “great” in exclusivity and other self-denials if you are hoping to get greater after marriage.

 

Salvation Marriage Throughout the Bible

Not only do we see that people can get greater after marriage, but sometimes we even see that marriage itself seems to save people.

 

Matriarchs Married into Monotheism

Think of all the Matriarchs Who Were Associated with Monotheism through Marriage

·         Jos_24:2-3Sarah (implicitly)

·         Rebecca

·         Leah and Rachel

·         Joseph’s Egyptian wife – what chance did she have if it were not for Joseph?
Physically, Joseph came into the house of Egypt by his own suffering, sacrifice, integrity, and humility to save the whole world from famine, and spiritually he brought that Egyptian daughter into the house of Israel when all was said and done

·         Moses’ Midianite Wife might have already been Monotheistic (like we already said: Exo_2:16-22; Act_7:29 – we hope to go into more detail about this later)

·         Num_12:1 – Moses’ Cushite/Ethiopian wife? – Wherever she was before Moses, we can safely say she was exalted to unimaginably greater degrees after marriage with him… and maybe this was how she obtained to Monotheism to begin with

·         Ruth

·         David forced the symbol of Saving Michal

·         There is, of course, the obvious and explicit, repeated theme of God saving His woman from sin/fornication throughout the prophets and the New Testament

 

Psa_45:10 Listen, daughter, consider, and turn your ear. Forget your own people, and also your father's house.

Psa_45:10 Hear, O daughter, and see, and incline your ear; forget also your people, and your father's house.

Psa_45:10  (44:11) ἄκουσον, θύγατερ, καὶ ἰδὲ καὶ κλῖνον τὸ οὖς σου καὶ ἐπιλάθου τοῦ λαοῦ σου καὶ τοῦ οἴκου τοῦ πατρός σου,

Psa_45:11 So the king will desire your beauty, honor him, for he is your lord.

Psa_45:11 Because the King has desired your beauty; for He is your Lord.

Psa_45:11  (44:12) ὅτι ἐπεθύμησεν ὁ βασιλεὺς τοῦ κάλλους σου, ὅτι αὐτός ἐστιν ὁ κύριός σου.

 

Starting Righteous, But Still Needing Some Kind of Salvation Marriage

·         Eve? – Well, at least Adam was supposed to save her from the serpent…

·         Zipporah Moses’ (Midianite / first) wife: Exo_2:16-22; Exo_3:1; Exo_2:18 (Exo_18:1-6)
>> How do you “save” a daughter of Jethro/Reuel, who is a priest in the land of Midian?
>> Moses rescued all of these daughters from bad shepherds: Exo
_2:17 / Exo_2:19 ἀναστὰς δὲ Μωυσῆς ἐρρύσατο αὐτὰς
>> Ultimately you could say that Zipporah was converted by marriage from a shepherdesses daughter into the wife of the leader of Israel

·         Abigail – Spiritually sizzling before marriage, but still physically saved from her bitter heritage & context, and brought far away from the dreaded land of hurtful memories she was eager to forget, and ended up in the palace with David!

 

What Does Salvation Marriage Include?

 

Salvation Marriage Could Be…

·         Physical – from danger (another example: married people are usually healthier than singles… probably esp. when compared to hurt and lonely fornicators)

·         Emotional – example: comfort/healing (Bible Greek Reminder Note: salvation is a healing)

·         Spiritual – getting in on Monotheism

·         Training, correction, and even discipline (rod of correction turns your soul from hell)

·         Exaltation Calling – becoming greater by marriage than you could alone

·         Others? – can you think of any other examples of Salvation Marriage?

 

The Range of Combinations and Variations of Salvation Marriage

·         Salvation Marriage could be a variation, variety, and or combination of any of these and or other “salvations” that God works out in and through you by marriage.

·         Making you good by comforting away bad hurts, fears, and vulnerable feelings, or making you good by discipline, correction, rebuke, punishment, chastisement…

·         Making your body safe and pulling it out of danger, or making your spirit safe and pulling it into favor…

·         In every case Salvation Marriage saves / benefits / changes you in some kind of qualitative and defining way to make you better off with this salvation than you would have been without such marriage.

 

New Covenant Women Can Spiritually Save Men

 

Zipporah helps circumcise Moses’ son along the way and saved Moses’ life

 

1Co_7:16

1Pe_3:1-6, etc.

 

Al is all up in that verse…

 

Disciple Question about Men’s Parables

4. » Do men have parable match ups too?

>> yes but not all the parables of women are shown the Bible.

 

3. If A Woman Does Not Just Wait for a Surprise, Then Maybe She Needs to Recognize a Man’s Parable?

3. » If not then perhaps you should understand the differences between Moses, Abraham, Elijah, etc. Does parable matching also include preferences?


5. » To what degree does a women's parable shape the character of a man?

·         Order of Creation – there are definite non-negotiable aspects of gender that require the primary effect of marriage to be a man defining a woman (if nothing else, at least physically) (for that reason, women should not be fundamentally ambitious to seek the reverse of this)

·         Spiritually – Women can still save men (as seen here)

·         Developmentally – Men can learn to be more like the parable of Anointed One that they are supposed to be (although this is less about salvation, and more about a man learning in himself to be a man)

·         Generally – each person brings something to the table that helps the other

 

So, “To what degree does” this happen? For both man and woman, it depends on their parables, calling, greatness, level of salvation, etc.

 

If a woman had a new believer as a husband, or if she were as great as Deborah, or if she were saved after marriage, these would be the primary ways a woman could more directly and definitively “save” her husband and “shape his character”.

 

Although there is still an original fundamental element of men saving and defining women, (1) spiritual things definitely surpass the flesh, and, (2) there is some since in which the theme of women saving men by healing and comforting has its place as a very lawful expression, and even positive and ideal parable in the Scriptures.

(lawful expressions of women saving men, so even this can work as a good parable.)

 

Gen_24:67 WEB Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah's tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife. He loved her. Isaac was comforted after his mother's death.

Gen_24:67 CAB And Isaac went into the house of his mother, and took Rebecca, and she became his wife, and he loved her; and Isaac was comforted [παρεκλήθη] over Sarah his mother.

Gen_24:67  εἰσῆλθεν δὲ Ισαακ εἰς τὸν οἶκον τῆς μητρὸς αὐτοῦ καὶ ἔλαβεν τὴν Ρεβεκκαν, καὶ ἐγένετο αὐτοῦ γυνή, καὶ ἠγάπησεν αὐτήν· καὶ παρεκλήθη Ισαακ περὶ Σαρρας τῆς μητρὸς αὐτοῦ.

 

Likewise, even Anointed One will be comforted after all the evil he has beheld when He embraces His sweet, holy, therapy-comforting, and perfect Bride!

Al: there is some since in which the theme of women saving men by healing and comforting has its place as a very lawful expression”- ex Jesus will be comforted over his bride after having seen and borne so much evil for so long

 

How do we know this? Because mysteriously, God beckons us humans to do therapy to Him!

 

Greek Therapy/Healing Words

G2330 – θέρος, – Strong’s: “(to heat); properly heat, that is, summer

G2322 – θεραπεία healing(s) / healer(s)

Gen_45:16; 2Ki_10:20; Est_2:12; Joe_1:14; Joe_2:15; Mat_24:45; Luk_9:11; Luk_12:42; Rev_22:2;

G2323 (verb) – θεραπεύω – Do Therapy-attendance/service

2Sa_19:24; 2Ki_9:16; Est_2:19; Est_6:10; Pro_14:19; Pro_19:6; Pro_29:26; Isa_54:17; Mat_4:23; Mat_4:24; Mat_8:7; Mat_8:16; Mat_9:35; Mat_10:1; Mat_10:8; Mat_12:10; Mat_12:15; Mat_12:22; Mat_14:14; Mat_15:30; Mat_17:16; Mat_17:18; Mat_19:2; Mat_21:14; Mar_1:34; Mar_3:2; Mar_3:10; Mar_3:15; Mar_6:5; Mar_6:13; Luk_4:23; Luk_4:40; Luk_5:15; Luk_6:7; Luk_6:18; Luk_7:21; Luk_8:2; Luk_8:43; Luk_9:1; Luk_9:6; Luk_10:9; Luk_13:14; Luk_14:3; Joh_5:10; Act_4:14; Act_5:16; Act_8:7; Act_17:25; Act_28:9; Rev_13:3; Rev_13:12;

G2324 (noun) – θεράπων Be a Therapy-attendant/servant – as an occupation

Gen_24:44; Gen_50:17; Exo_4:10; Exo_5:21; Exo_7:9; Exo_7:10; Exo_7:20; Exo_8:3; Exo_8:4; Exo_8:9; Exo_8:11; Exo_8:21; Exo_8:24; Exo_8:29; Exo_8:31; Exo_9:8; Exo_9:14; Exo_9:20; Exo_9:30; Exo_9:34; Exo_10:1; Exo_10:6; Exo_10:7; Exo_11:3; Exo_12:30; Exo_14:5; Exo_14:31; Exo_33:11; Num_11:11; Num_12:7; Num_12:8; Num_32:31; Deu_3:24; Deu_9:27; Deu_29:2; Deu_34:11; Jos_1:2; Jos_8:31; Jos_8:33; Jdg_17:5; Jdg_18:14; Jdg_18:17; Jdg_18:18; Jdg_18:20; 1Sa_15:23; 2Ki_23:24; Job_1:8; Job_2:3; Job_3:19; Job_7:2; Job_19:16; Job_31:13; Job_42:7; Job_42:8; Pro_18:14; Pro_27:27; Heb_3:5;

 

WS:

G2323: “To wait upon, minister to, render voluntary service, heal, but primarily signifies to serve as therápōn

…To take care of the sick, to tend with the more general meaning of to relieve, heal, cure (Mat_4:24; Mat_12:10; Mar_1:34; Luk_6:7; Luk_10:9); with the gen. and apó (G575), from (Luk_7:21; Luk_8:2) followed by the acc. of disease (Mat_4:23). In Rev_13:3 of the healing of the wound. Therapeúō means to heal miraculously in Mat_4:23-24; Mat_10:1, Mat_10:8; Act_4:14.

 

G2324: “Therapeúō (G2323) may be used of the physician's watchful attendance of the sick and man's service to God. Therápōn approaches more closely the position of oikonómos (G3623), manager, in God's house.

 

Examples of Therapy Healing

2Sa_19:24  CAB And Memphibosthe the son of Saul's son went down to meet the king, and had not dressed [ἐθεράπευσεν – lit. done therapy to] his feet, nor pared his nails, nor shaved himself, neither had he washed his garments, from the day that the king departed, until the day when he arrived in peace.

2Sa_19:24  (19:25) καὶ Μεμφιβοσθε υἱὸς Ιωναθαν υἱοῦ Σαουλ κατέβη εἰς ἀπαντὴν τοῦ βασιλέως· καὶ οὐκ ἐθεράπευσεν τοὺς πόδας αὐτοῦ οὐδὲ ὠνυχίσατο οὐδὲ ἐποίησεν τὸν μύστακα αὐτοῦ καὶ τὰ ἱμάτια αὐτοῦ οὐκ ἔπλυνεν ἀπὸ τῆς ἡμέρας, ἧς ἀπῆλθεν ὁ βασιλεύς, ἕως τῆς ἡμέρας, ἧς αὐτὸς παρεγένετο ἐν εἰρήνῃ.

 

Rev_22:2 CAB  …on both sides of the river was the tree of life, producing twelve fruits, each yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing [θεραπείαν] of the nations. [τὰ φύλλα τοῦ ξύλου εἰς θεραπείαν τῶν ἐθνῶν]

 

Wis_7:20  The natures of living creatures, and the furies of wild beasts: the violence of winds, and the reasonings of men: the diversities of plants and the virtues of roots:

Wis_7:20  φύσεις ζῴων καὶ θυμοὺς θηρίων, πνευμάτων βίας καὶ διαλογισμοὺς ἀνθρώπων, διαφορὰς φυτῶν καὶ δυνάμεις ῥιζῶν,

 

Note: it is lawful to use safe (natural?) drugs / herbs for healing/therapy.

 

This “Therapy” is Applied towards the benefit of God

 

2Ki_10:20 – although the nations think all gods should be therap-ied by idolatrous therapy-services…

Act_17:23-25 – the Monotheistic God is not therap-ied by idols

1Pe_4:3 -- God is not comforted by idols, because their services are unclean

 

Job, Moses, and others are called God’s therapy servants/attendants

WS: “Heb_3:5; Sept.: of Moses in Exo_14:31; Num_12:7-8; of Job in Job_2:3, Job_42:7-8

 

We could say that by their therapy of God’s “hurts” and discomforts, and by stopping the resulting angers and wraths, these therapy workers worked out the maximum amount of mercy possible on the earth:

Eze_14:14, Eze_14:16, Eze_14:18, Eze_14:20

 

Now if humans (which are feminine) can “heal” God’s heart in some way, so also, even more so, women can save men.

 

Tobias Defines a Salvation Marriage – as Told in Tobit

Tob_6:9-17

Tob_7:1

Tob_8:1

 

Tob_6:16 Br And when thou shalt come into the marriage chamber, thou shalt take the ashes of perfume, and shalt lay upon them some of the heart and liver of the fish, and shalt make a smoke with it:

Tob_6:17  καὶ ἐὰν εἰσέλθῃς εἰς τὸν νυμφῶνα, λήμψῃ τέφραν θυμιαμάτων καὶ ἐπιθήσεις ἀπὸ τῆς καρδίας καὶ τοῦ ἥπατος τοῦ ἰχθύος καὶ καπνίσεις,

 

Tob_6:17 a Br And the devil shall smell it, and flee away, and never come again any more:

καὶ ὀσφρανθήσεται τὸ δαιμόνιον καὶ φεύξεται καὶ οὐκ ἐπανελεύσεται τὸν αἰῶνα τοῦ αἰῶνος.

 

Tob_6:17 b Br but when thou shalt come to her, rise up both of you, and pray [βοήσατε] to God which is merciful [τὸν ἐλεήμονα θεόν], who will have pity on you [ἐλεήσει], and save you [σώσει ὑμᾶς]: fear not [μὴ φοβοῦ], ·for she is appointed unto thee from the beginning [ὅτι σοὶ αὐτὴ ἡτοιμασμένη ἦν ἀπὸ τοῦ αἰῶνος]; and thou shalt preserve [σώσεις – save] her, and she shall go with thee [καὶ πορεύσεται μετὰ σοῦ]. Moreover I suppose that she shall bear thee children [καὶ ὑπολαμβάνω ὅτι σοὶ ἔσται ἐξ αὐτῆς παιδία]. Now when Tobias had heard [ἤκουσεν] these things, he loved [ἐφίλησεν] her, and his heart [ψυχὴ] was effectually [fig. exceedingly] joined [glued] to her.  [καὶ ἡ ψυχὴ αὐτοῦ ἐκολλήθη αὐτῇ σφόδρα]

Tob_6:18  ὅταν δὲ προσπορεύῃ αὐτῇ, ἐγέρθητε ἀμφότεροι καὶ βοήσατε πρὸς τὸν ἐλεήμονα θεόν, καὶ σώσει ὑμᾶς καὶ ἐλεήσει· μὴ φοβοῦ, ὅτι σοὶ αὐτὴ ἡτοιμασμένη ἦν ἀπὸ τοῦ αἰῶνος, καὶ σὺ αὐτὴν σώσεις, καὶ πορεύσεται μετὰ σοῦ, καὶ ὑπολαμβάνω ὅτι σοὶ ἔσται ἐξ αὐτῆς παιδία.

Tob_6:19  καὶ ὡς ἤκουσεν Τωβιας ταῦτα, ἐφίλησεν αὐτήν, καὶ ἡ ψυχὴ αὐτοῦ ἐκολλήθη αὐτῇ σφόδρα.

 

Remember / consider how this “love before seeing” is like what we praised when establishing “Arranged Marriage

 

Marital Fillings?

--------------- 4/18/15

Al

Note for Sir. Exclusivity QnA:
If the Lord is going to come thru the clouds, and by his Spirit enter into our dieable bodies, and save us and fill us to the uttermost and join us to the Godhead then couldn't someone play that parable with their marriage on earth? In other words, if a female was not filled with the Holy Spirit before she got married then is it possible for her to be resurrected in a sense upon her uniting with a man (maybe he would already be filled), and not only may God make them one flesh but maybe He would make a heightened point and fill her with his Spirit too??

h: Wow now that sounds exciting : )!

Ay: Wow.....

Al

(btw, maybe that man got filled by having a prayer meeting or something with our overseer sometime during the betrothal period)
Just a thought=-)

>> I would like to see that happen when he baptizes her into his own name!

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Al: "All Things Are yours" vs. ‘Getting Saved by Great Associations within Marriage to Great People

·         Assuming you stay in the faith

·         You all already have a corporate inheritance

·         You can be great w out marrying Jesus if you are one of the women disciples, but you cannot be great if you are Sarah and you decide not to get married to Abraham

·         If you’re going to get married, associations w great people is just the right way to go

·         All things are yours now by the promise of faith, including future things, but the means of obtaining them is often yet to be worked out and varies depending on calling

·         If marriage is not a means of obtaining all things / doesn't pertain to inheriting all things / doesn't save you somehow by associating you in greatness, then you might be better off celibate

 

Will Your Salvation Marriage Mean Comfort and/or Discipline?

Do You Get The Point of Salvation Marriage?

Do you really want to get saved in marriage to the degree and in the sense God is willing to save you?

 

In some cases it could be comfort, therapy, and consolation. In other cases it could mean salvation from potential sins and character flaws. -- This depends on how much and in what ways you have suffered/been disciplined before marriage.

 

After telling women how they ought to be submissive in marriage and even suffer wrongly (1Pe_3:1-6), Peter says,

 

1Pe_4:1 CAB  Therefore, since Christ [anointed one] suffered for us in the flesh, you also arm yourselves with the same mind, because he who suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin,

1Pe_4:1 Greek  Χριστοῦ οὖν παθόντος ὑπὲρ ὑμῶν σαρκὶ καὶ ὑμεῖς τὴν αὐτὴν ἔννοιαν ὁπλίσασθε, ὅτι ὁ παθὼν σαρκὶ πέπαυται ἁμαρτίας,

 

Note: suffering like Jesus did (even if you are innocent) makes you stop sinning!

 

What Happens when a Salvation Marriage Means Discipline & Correction?

We may already be well adjusted to rejoice in the hope of comforting marriages, but what happens when the salvation includes the zeal of correction?

 

For men it depends on courageously loving spiritual things above the strength of the flesh, and being a real man who is won over by the surpassing virtues of his amazing woman. I tell you, he will probably be making some trips out to the woodshed to get saved after facing his overwhelmingly convicting wife.

 

For women, it depends on loving/craving/hurting for/and even begging for discipline…

·         In this case, since a man is now finally back in the place of Adam, he can finally use this to be a spiritual Adam who saves his wife from sin

·         He can use his thundering and authoritative voice and rightful position to finally beat away that old serpent!

·         And if spiritual women are able to save men, how much more readily can the man, who is a savior by nature, save his own woman? (Just as Paul remarks about the “natural branches” being more efficiently grafted into their own olive tree in Rom_11:17-24)

·         How then can a woman run after greatness within such a salvation marriage as this?

·         You cannot be saved in marriage if you do not crave and beg for correction to change in great humility and virtue lust...

·         Crave being defined and changed by someone else’s substance

·         I want to see women following after their men and putting a belt in their hand and begging for truth, salvation, and life, and redemption (esp from the snake that will inevitably attempt to come to her; by the way, if she is spiritual and “on top of things” then when her savior comes she should be ready to jump into his arms, dashing away from the danger; also, it’s a healthy posture to beg God for correction and you will be mercied- ex Psa_139:23-24, 1Co_11:31-32; be righteous like Job and be happy for God to just speak to you because He is indeed being romantic to his own and bestowing value upon you through his Words; Imagine yourself in prayer towards God, and now max out in this reasonable and healthy posture in marriage)

 

“I want God to correct me, and not man” – let’s crush this evangelical, heretical posture (by the way, a woman said this)

 

“h: How shall a righteous female who is married to an unrighteous man long for his unrighteous discipline, I guess I only understand her submitting and longing for righteousness....”

Do what you can on your side to win him over and also to squeeze anything you can out of him to feel the righteousness of the parable. Just find something, anything, to incite him to be a man. By the time you are chasing after a righteous man with a belt he will be so overwhelmed with romance that he won’t know what to do with you. (This is probably as close as you’re going to get to making a righteous man faint).

 

These things are spicy, salty, extremely profound parables

 

 

 

Reminder about discipline (5/31/15): Whether it means suffering wrongly or it means hurting from being legitimately corrected, the Bible parallels all such “discipline” as being valuable for obtaining virtue and endurance and correction from God. Therefore, if a woman suffers wrongly from an unjust husband she can speak to how a woman ought to submit in a good marriage, and even more mysteriously, a woman who loves to beg for correction from her righteous husband can speak directly to a woman suffering wrongly.

 

Remember how Hebrews 12 parallels Jesus' innocent suffering (Heb_12:2-3) with our receiving correction from God (Heb_12:3-14, etc.) just like we just saw in 1Pe_3:1, 1Pe_4:1?

 

Heb_12:11 – ALL discipline works good- this can get a bit romantic (hint- Greek word for “trained”)…

 

Therefore, I would say that salvation marriages that include salvation by discipline make a woman ready to preach to troubled women, and I am getting that specific because it looks like some of us have already gotten written into these things…

 

Side Spiritual Notes – How We Ended Up in This Bible Study

·         5/23/15 Al started facing a deep and painful trial (after a community talk we all had that night)

·         Salvation Marriage was originally set to be taught the next day 5/24/15, but it was postponed (it was not ready yet so we did a QNA instead), and now I am really glad it was postponed!

·         The next morning of 5/25/15 I told Al that I had written several things that morning and the night before in light of “helping” with her trial

·         Among other things I wrote, the morning of 5/25/15 around 11am, I added these last two sections to Salvation Marriage, including the quotation of 1Pe_4:1 (as seen previously).

·         Even though we were not actually doing this Bible study yet, I read this verse and part of the rest of this chapter (which deals with trials) to the disciples between about 11am and 12 pm (in light of Al’s current trial, and in light of the errands we were about to go on), and I also read Act_14:21-22 (and partly referenced Heb_12:1-2) -- note- remember that even the trials in the rest of the 1Peter 4 chapter do pertain to discipline

·         Al (who was under a heavy trial) had quoted 1Pe_4:1 and Act_14:21-22 in prayer that same morning

·         While driving in the SUV and starting our way out to our errands, Al mentioned (from behind the modesty curtain) that she had just quoted these same two passages (1Pe_4:1 and Act_14:21-22) that morning in prayer

·         Indeed I had written some things to help Al in her trial with depths that I did not realize

·         With excitement I replied and said that this was spiritual, and compared it to the same type of principle as Jesus prophesying while on the cross -- i.e. I knew she was suffering through a trial (being emotionally hurt) yet she was getting spiritual things that were correlating with the passages I had just read that morning

·         Furthermore, the fact that I reference 1Pe_4:1 (and linked it to Acts 14) to suffering within marriage is a very strange and distinctive application by default, but it just so happened to be the exact same verses that Al was quoting

·         Al and Ay both responded right back to me and said that this comparison I just made was what Ay had just said to Al that morning, in praise and admiration of Al’s virtues in the mist of Al’s trial (more specifically, Ay had greeted Al and said that she was like Jesus bleeding virtues while suffering on the cross)

·         Said in Chat: “on the way out to errands today, we all realized something else important and spiritual happened... more details later. Its great living around exciting people who are prone toward the orchestrations of God :+)” (3:26 pm CT)

·         I had added 1Pe_4:1 in light of learning to suffer / love being disciplined both before marriage and within marriage, prefacing this quotation with the specific words, “After telling women how they ought to be submissive in marriage and even suffer wrongly (1Pe_3:1-6), Peter says…

·         As for what I have composed here, It would seem Al pertains a lot to all of this

·         There Al goes again, learning things and personifying something spiritual to help women in the worst marriages!

·         What should we do with these things? Muse and be amaze, I suppose, until God fulfills all of these mysteries and parables.

 

Followups

 

--------------- 6/2/15

Al: (sidenote my family: I found something I wrote on 4/17/13 - "Btw, I am encouraged to fulfill 1Pe_3:1-6 in very astronomical, prophetic ways (how a woman is going to be a despot and type of overseer and hidden away writing Scriptures, winning the world over…)"

 

Hd: Wow..... wow... things just keep rolling in....

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Discipline Follow Up

 

Identifying The Privilege of Exaltation

3/15/15; 5/17/15; 5/31/15; 6/7/15-6/8/15 (presented)

Exclusivity--06--Identifying-The-Privilege-of-Exaltation--6.8.15.mp3

Goal: Understanding Marriage Parables, and expanding on Salvation Marriage

 

Like always with these marital discussions, I am aiming to give you things that are both true spiritually, and righteous for the physical parable as well that you may obtain in this life. Please always be asking “how is this true spiritually, and how is this illustrated in the parable of marriage?”

 

Prerequisite Disclaimers and Explanations

·         This point is related to salvation marriage, so I am including it here. I don’t doubt we already glory in the humility addressed in this point. Even if we might already have many of these virtues, it might somehow find a way to be useful if I establish them a little more explicitly, so here we go.

·         Even if it seems these things are already established, perhaps we will still yet go over them in case it helps solidify anything for ourselves or for the nations we teach…

·         At first I was trying to think about where this section would even fit…

·         Furthermore, I thought about not including this section at all, since, I think, for the most part we are already exhibiting these types of “humility” virtues…

·         I did not want it to seem as though I was implying that something was particularly lacking where it has actually been a bit abundant

·         But maybe we can keep this as a shoe fitting point for us so I can still cover this without anyone feeling incriminated -- and then maybe we’ll get to somehow go over some aspects that help…

·         Update 6/7/15: I think I finally wrote some conclusions toward the end that makes this point make a lot of sense and be very applicable for us

 

What is “Identifying The Privilege”?

Each time God makes great marriages, they are based on big and mysterious parables. Whenever this happens, explosions happen and favor is profoundly conferred and Divinely multiplied in the process. One example we have been considering is salvation marriage where some saving favor happens in the process of people getting married.

    “Identifying The Privilege of Exaltation” is about identifying and reinforcing the real, most important, most defining, and most critical thing God is saying and doing when there is a parable match up, and in what way major favor is conferred by this defining thing, and how that favor can save others when they believe the message God is proclaiming through all of this. It is about recognizing who is getting saved and in what ways, and it involves engaging real prophecy in faith and apprehending an Orthodox understanding when considering a salvation marriage (or I might say, marriage parables in general).

    “Identifying The Privilege” is about praising the right thing, the right way, and doing the Justice that is the point of this thing to begin with, so that God’s message is glorified, and the hearers are saved by admiring, loving, rejoicing in, and believing in such Orthodoxy by proclaiming in what way people are saved and or exalted by God’s favor in getting married. It is about looking at something mysterious going on in front of everyone and standing up to preach and set the record straight and do sufficient Justice on what declaration just happened (and or maybe what declaration is even still at hand).

 

    It’s like when something important happens and then when someone with a little less perception comments and belittles what just took place… “this is about how they’re called to be an ice cream man” -- then someone stands up and sets the record straight and says how the whole world is going to be saved, obey all the Bible, and avoid antichrist,

 And then all the truth lovers standing on the side lines go “whoa, that’s exactly right, how’d they know that?” -- but that’s the truth we all know we want to follow.

 

    One big example you must not miss in the Scriptures if you hope to make it to heaven is that Mary is so sizzling out of this world that she is supernaturally pregnant with God in her stomach. Joseph is a righteous man too. Joseph must marry Mary in order for all righteousness to explode on the earth in the New Covenant (example: Jesus had to have an adopted “Father figure”, among many other mysterious things). So both Mary and Joseph increase in Divine and unthinkable greatness by getting married, with Joseph conferring his manly righteousness as a husband and father, and Marry conferring, well, God Himself. Both of them are saved, favored, and exalted to infinite greatness in various ways by being together, and no one can make it to heaven if they don’t believe the Gospel that just happened through their eternal and Earth-dominating marriage.

>> Example: If Joseph was not there, then the Scripture could never be fulfilled that says “out of Egypt I have called My son...”

>> in one since Joseph saved Marry and Jesus from Herod and other threats, and in many more ways Marry, and especially Jesus, saved Joseph

>> Bildad the Pharisee called it fornication, and righteous prophets and prophetess called it God-with-us… -- Did you get that parable and are you able to do justice to it? If you perceive this parable wrong then you are really wrong.

    Whenever God moves and speaks, let’s circumcise our ears with faith and holiness and reverence and tenacity to zealously burn with the truth that is being declared to us from heaven.

 

We Must Understand the Nature of What is Going On

Every time something happens from heaven, it is important for spiritual people to accurately perceive the true nature of what is actually going on. We have to base everything on prophecy and on knowing God rather than being motivated or energized by error or shallowness or shortsightedness, especially to the degree that we might lead or direct anything that affects ourselves or others.

 

Joh_12:28-29 CAB  Father, glorify Your name." Then a voice came out of heaven, saying, "I have both glorified it and will glorify it again."  29  Therefore the crowd which was standing and heard were saying that it had thundered. Others were saying, "An angel has spoken to Him."

Joh_12:28-29 Greek  πάτερ, δόξασόν σου τὸ ὄνομα. ἦλθεν οὖν φωνὴ ἐκ τοῦ οὐρανοῦ· καὶ ἐδόξασα καὶ πάλιν δοξάσω.  29  ὁ οὖν ὄχλος ὁ ἑστὼς καὶ ἀκούσας ἔλεγεν βροντὴν γεγονέναι· ἄλλοι ἔλεγον· ἄγγελος αὐτῷ λελάληκεν.

 

Who’s Got the Privilege in Each Marriage?

Or, in which way does each person have a distinct and particular privilege in this parable matchup?

 

As we said previously,

David thought he was getting in on a good deal because he loved wisdom, but at the same time, Abigail was humbled that even she as a widow was getting caught up in an explosive deal with being hitched up with David!

 

Let’s Determine…

·         Who is saving who, and in which senses? -- Big Question!

·         Orthodoxy is concerned with the real things that are going on

·         This makes you know God and be faithful to His truth

·         We want to actually do the Justice that is at hand

·         There are often varieties of privileges going on – we should seek to potently understand each one as much as possible!

·         It is good to make much of marveling on the things that God is testifying to by significant parables when each person is saved in special ways

·         Although we typically have lots of humility going on among us, I do not know that most of us are able to do this yet (and that’s why we are going through this)

·         We should seek to thoroughly account for every aspect of “privilege” whenever considering these things, and from that, determine what is the most defining and critical thing going on, so we will actually praise things in the fullest way and complete the proclamation that is at hand, because this is the whole reason that motivated God to do this in the first place.

 

How Many Directions of Exaltation, and in What Senses?

A deep-set privilege of marrying someone should be facing the right direction.

What is God saying? In what sense and to what degree(s)?

·          right to left?

·          left to right?

·          bi-directional?

 

Ruth 3 – Ruth to Boaz and Boaz to Ruth

 

Rth_2:8-17, etc. – Boaz is generous to Ruth, & Ruth falls on her face because she's a foreigner, but Boaz is impressed with her virtues

 

Ruth Thought of Marriage to Boaz as Protection, Rest, Honor, Being Rescued, and Being Redeemed

 

Rth_3:1 WEB Naomi her mother-in-law said to her, My daughter, shall I not seek rest for you, that it may be well with you?

Rth_3:1 CAB And she lodged with her mother-in-law. And Naomi her mother-in-law said to her, My daughter, shall I not seek rest for you, that it may be well with you?

Rth_3:1  Εἶπεν δὲ αὐτῇ Νωεμιν ἡ πενθερὰ αὐτῆς Θύγατερ, οὐ μὴ ζητήσω σοι ἀνάπαυσιν, ἵνα εὖ γένηταί σοι;

 

Rth_3:9 WEB He said, Who are you? She answered, I am Ruth your handmaid: spread therefore your [fig.:] skirt* [כנפך H3671 (a form of kānāp)] over your handmaid; for you are a near kinsman.

Rth_3:9 CAB And he said, Who are you? And she said, I am your maidservant Ruth; spread your [fig.:] skirt* [πτερύγιόν – winglet / little wing] over your maidservant, for you are a close relative.

Rth_3:9  εἶπεν δέ Τίς εἶ σύ; ἡ δὲ εἶπεν Ἐγώ εἰμι Ρουθ ἡ δούλη σου, καὶ περιβαλεῖς τὸ πτερύγιόν σου ἐπὶ τὴν δούλην σου, ὅτι ἀγχιστεὺς εἶ σύ.

 

Winglet / Little wing: Num_15:38; Rth_1:16; Rth_2:12; Rth_3:9; 1Sa_24:5

Also: Rth_3:10; Rth_2:12; Deu_22:30; Deu_27:20; 1Ki_19:19; Eze_16:8; Mal_2:16

 

 

Rth_4:4, etc. – being bought/acquired/fig. redeemed

 

Boaz Said it was Kindness/Mercy for Ruth to Propose Marriage

Rth_3:10 He said, Blessed are you by Yahweh, my daughter: you have shown more kindness in the latter end than at the beginning, inasmuch as you didn't follow young men, whether poor or rich.

Rth_3:10 And Boaz said, Blessed are you of the Lord God, my daughter, for you have made your latter kindness greater than the former [ἠγάθυνας τὸ ἔλεός σου τὸ ἔσχατον ὑπὲρ τὸ πρῶτον], in that you followed not after young men, whether any be poor or rich.

Rth_3:10  καὶ εἶπεν Βοος Εὐλογημένη σὺ τῷ κυρίῳ θεῷ, θύγατερ, ὅτι ἠγάθυνας τὸ ἔλεός σου τὸ ἔσχατον ὑπὲρ τὸ πρῶτον, τὸ μὴ πορευθῆναί σε ὀπίσω νεανιῶν, εἴτοι πτωχὸς εἴτοι πλούσιος.

 

1st Samuel 18 – David’s Feelings of Unworthiness Toward Marry Saul’s Daughters

 

1Sa_18:20-24 CAB  And Michal, Saul's daughter, loved David. And it was told Saul, and the thing was pleasing in his eyes.  21  And Saul said, I will give her to him, and she shall be a stumbling block to him. Now the hand of the Philistines was against Saul.  22  And Saul charged his servants, saying, Speak privately to David, saying, Behold, the king delights in you, and all his servants love you. Now therefore, become the king's son-in-law.  23  And the servants of Saul spoke these words in the ears of David. And David said, Is it a light thing in your eyes to become son-in-law to the king? Seeing I am a humble man, and not honorable?  24  And Saul's servants reported to him according to these words which David spoke.

1Sa_18:20-24 Greek  Καὶ ἠγάπησεν Μελχολ ἡ θυγάτηρ Σαουλ τὸν Δαυιδ, καὶ ἀπηγγέλη Σαουλ, καὶ ηὐθύνθη ἐν ὀφθαλμοῖς αὐτοῦ.  21  καὶ εἶπεν Σαουλ Δώσω αὐτὴν αὐτῷ, καὶ ἔσται αὐτῷ εἰς σκάνδαλον. καὶ ἦν ἐπὶ Σαουλ χεὶρ ἀλλοφύλων·  22  καὶ ἐνετείλατο Σαουλ τοῖς παισὶν αὐτοῦ λέγων Λαλήσατε ὑμεῖς λάθρᾳ τῷ Δαυιδ λέγοντες Ἰδοὺ ὁ βασιλεὺς θέλει ἐν σοί, καὶ πάντες οἱ παῖδες αὐτοῦ ἀγαπῶσίν σε, καὶ σὺ ἐπιγάμβρευσον τῷ βασιλεῖ.  23  καὶ ἐλάλησαν οἱ παῖδες Σαουλ εἰς τὰ ὦτα Δαυιδ τὰ ῥήματα ταῦτα, καὶ εἶπεν Δαυιδ Εἰ κοῦφον ἐν ὀφθαλμοῖς ὑμῶν ἐπιγαμβρεῦσαι βασιλεῖ; κἀγὼ ἀνὴρ ταπεινὸς καὶ οὐχὶ ἔνδοξος.  24  καὶ ἀπήγγειλαν οἱ παῖδες Σαουλ αὐτῷ κατὰ τὰ ῥήματα ταῦτα, ἃ ἐλάλησεν Δαυιδ.

 

Something very important in identifying the privilege of exaltation is the self-perception that leads one to humility and amazement with the surpassing exaltation of potentially getting married.

 

Michael’s Failure to Recognize the Privilege of David!

After being forcefully redeemed out of adulterous remarriage, The Despising heart of Michael failed to identify her complete unworthiness that David should ever even look at her defiled self again! Since David did well in having continual mercy on her unworthiness, God took it upon Himself to speak against her by keeping her barren the rest of her life...

 

2Sa_9:1 – Mephibosheth’s Good Confessions to David

David Receives Mephibosheth at His Table

David putting Jonathan's lame descendant at his table -- he called himself a dead dog!

 

2Sa_2:1, etc. – David Made king of the house of Judah

2Sa_3:1, 2Sa_3:6 – David at war with Saul's house; David getting stronger

2Sa_4:4 – Memphibosthe made lame by fleeing (at 5 years of age)

2Sa_5:3, etc. – David king over all Israel

2Sa_5:6-9 – Pagan people despised David by boasting in the weakest of them... "Wherefore they said, The blind and the lame shall not come into the house." (2Sa_5:8)

2Sa_7:1-29 – David proposes building God a house, and God flips it all around to build David a house -- David received special mercy from God!

2Sa_8:18 – David concurs all the pagan enemies

2Sa_9:1-5 – David talking to Siba about Memphibosthe to Bless the Memory of Jonathan

2Sa_9:6 – Memphibosthe falls upon his face

2Sa_9:7 – Mercy & Royal Table extended by David

2Sa_9:8 – CAB: “Memphibosthe did obeisance, and said, Who am I thy servant, that thou hast looked upon a dead dog”

2Sa_9:9-11 – Siba assigned to exalt & serve Memphibosthe

2Sa_9:12-13 – Memphibosthe exalted in Jerusalem

 

(Before and after these events, David was killing Saul’s descendants. Example: 2Sa_21:1 – because of the drought)

 

2Sa_19:28  CAB …all the house of my father were but as dead men before my lord the king; yet thou hast set thy servant among them that eat at thy table: and what right have I any longer even to cry to the king?

2Sa_19:28  (19:29) ὅτι οὐκ ἦν πᾶς ὁ οἶκος τοῦ πατρός μου ἀλλ᾿ ἢ ὅτι ἄνδρες θανάτου τῷ κυρίῳ μου τῷ βασιλεῖ, καὶ ἔθηκας τὸν δοῦλόν σου ἐν τοῖς ἐσθίουσιν τὴν τράπεζάν σου· καὶ τί ἐστίν μοι ἔτι δικαίωμα καὶ τοῦ κεκραγέναι με ἔτι πρὸς τὸν βασιλέα;

 

Memphibosthe is redeemed by his faith, but part of that faith is identifying the privilege of exaltation.

 

It has always worked this way: the Canaanite woman recognized the inferiority of her flesh and Jesus recognized the redemption of her faith.

 

Interesting Textual variation

1Ki_20:11 WEB  The king of Israel answered, Tell him, Don't let him who girds on his armor boast himself as he who puts it off.

1Ki_20:11 CAB  And the king of Israel answered and said, Let it be sufficient; let not the humpbacked boast as he that is upright.

1Ki_20:11 Greek  …μὴ καυχάσθω ὁ κυρτὸς ὡς ὁ ὀρθός.

 

1st Samuel 25 – Abigail’s Humility Toward the Surpassing Privilege of David!

 

1Sa_25:40-41 CAB  So the servants of David came to Abigail to Carmel, and spoke to her, saying, David has sent us to you, to take you to himself for a wife.  41  And she arose, and bowed down with her face to the earth, and said, Behold, your servant is for a handmaid, to wash the feet of your servants.

1Sa_25:40-41 Greek  καὶ ἦλθον οἱ παῖδες Δαυιδ πρὸς Αβιγαιαν εἰς Κάρμηλον καὶ ἐλάλησαν αὐτῇ λέγοντες Δαυιδ ἀπέστειλεν ἡμᾶς πρὸς σὲ λαβεῖν σε αὐτῷ εἰς γυναῖκα.  41  καὶ ἀνέστη καὶ προσεκύνησεν ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν ἐπὶ πρόσωπον καὶ εἶπεν Ἰδοὺ ἡ δούλη σου εἰς παιδίσκην νίψαι πόδας τῶν παίδων σου.

 

Abigail Humbles Herself By Faith in this Great Privilege

·         Abigail was previously associated with David's enemy...

·         She was among those whom he might have massacred

·         sometimes wars like this only saved virgins, and being the wife of Nabal, it might not have looked good for her life at all even if she were spared alive…

·         But David considered the surpassing redemption of her provocative wisdom

·         Abigail well perceived the privilege of exaltation

 

Romans 3 – Even Your Pre-Salvation Past Can Affect Your Concept of Worthiness

Rom_3:23 CAB for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Rom_3:23  πάντες γὰρ ἥμαρτον καὶ ὑστεροῦνται τῆς δόξης τοῦ Θεοῦ,

Rom_3:24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption in Christ Jesus,

Rom_3:24  δικαιούμενοι δωρεὰν τῇ αὐτοῦ χάριτι διὰ τῆς ἀπολυτρώσεως τῆς ἐν Χριστῷ ᾿Ιησοῦ,

 

Luke 17 – 10 Lepers

Luk_17:12 Then as He entered a certain village, there met Him ten men who were lepers, who stood at a distance.

Luk_17:12  καὶ εἰσερχομένου αὐτοῦ εἴς τινα κώμην ἀπήντησαν αὐτῷ δέκα λεπροὶ ἄνδρες, οἳ ἔστησαν πόρρωθεν,

Luk_17:13 And they lifted their voice and said, "Jesus, Master, have mercy on us!"

Luk_17:13  καὶ αὐτοὶ ἦραν φωνὴν λέγοντες· ᾿Ιησοῦ ἐπιστάτα, ἐλέησον ἡμᾶς.

Luk_17:14  And seeing them, He said to them, "Go, show yourselves to the priests." And so it was that as they went away, they were cleansed.

Luk_17:14  καὶ ἰδὼν εἶπεν αὐτοῖς· πορευθέντες ἐπιδείξατε ἑαυτοὺς τοῖς ἱερεῦσι. καὶ ἐγένετο ἐν τῷ ὑπάγειν αὐτοὺς ἐκαθαρίσθησαν.

Luk_17:15 And one of them, seeing that he was healed, turned back, glorifying God with a loud voice,

Luk_17:15  εἷς δὲ ἐξ αὐτῶν, ἰδὼν ὅτι ἰάθη, ὑπέστρεψεν μετὰ φωνῆς μεγάλης δοξάζων τὸν Θεόν,

Luk_17:16 and fell down on his face at His feet, thanking Him. And he was a Samaritan.

Luk_17:16  καὶ ἔπεσεν ἐπὶ πρόσωπον παρὰ τοὺς πόδας αὐτοῦ εὐχαριστῶν αὐτῷ· καὶ αὐτὸς ἦν Σαμαρείτης.

Luk_17:17 So Jesus answered and said, "Were there not ten cleansed? But where are the nine?

Luk_17:17  ἀποκριθεὶς δὲ ὁ ᾿Ιησοῦς εἶπεν· οὐχὶ οἱ δέκα ἐκαθαρίσθησαν; οἱ δὲ ἐννέα ποῦ;

Luk_17:18 Were not any found returning to give glory to God except this foreigner [ἀλλογενὴς]?"

Luk_17:18  οὐχ εὑρέθησαν ὑποστρέψαντες δοῦναι δόξαν τῷ Θεῷ εἰ μὴ ὁ ἀλλογενὴς οὗτος;

Luk_17:19 And He said to him, "Arise, go your way. Your faith has made you well [σέσωκέ]."

Luk_17:19  καὶ εἶπεν αὐτῷ· ἀναστὰς πορεύου· ἡ πίστις σου σέσωκέ σε.

 

1st Corinthians 15 – Not Worthy To Be Called An Apostle

1Co_15:7 Thereafter He appeared to James, then to all the apostles.

1Co_15:7  ἔπειτα ὤφθη ᾿Ιακώβῳ, εἶτα τοῖς ἀποστόλοις πᾶσιν·

1Co_15:8 And last of all, as of one born out of due time, He appeared to me also.

1Co_15:8  ἔσχατον δὲ πάντων ὡσπερεὶ τῷ ἐκτρώματι ὤφθη κἀμοί.

1Co_15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

1Co_15:9  ᾿Εγὼ γάρ εἰμι ὁ ἐλάχιστος τῶν ἀποστόλων, ὃς οὐκ εἰμὶ ἱκανὸς καλεῖσθαι ἀπόστολος, διότι ἐδίωξα τὴν ἐκκλησίαν τοῦ Θεοῦ·

1Co_15:10 But by the grace [χάριτι] of God I am what I am [εἰμι ὅ εἰμι], and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than them all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

1Co_15:10  χάριτι δὲ Θεοῦ εἰμι ὅ εἰμι· καὶ ἡ χάρις αὐτοῦ ἡ εἰς ἐμὲ οὐ κενὴ ἐγενήθη, ἀλλὰ περισσότερον αὐτῶν πάντων ἐκοπίασα, οὐκ ἐγὼ δὲ, ἀλλὰ ἡ χάρις τοῦ Θεοῦ ἡ σὺν ἐμοί.

 

Luke 5 – Peter Feels Unworthy – I Am A Sinful Man

Luk_5:7 CAB So they beckoned to their partners who were in the other boat to come and help them. And they came and filled both the boats, so that they were sinking.

Luk_5:7  καὶ κατένευσαν τοῖς μετόχοις τοῖς ἐν τῷ ἑτέρῳ πλοίῳ τοῦ ἐλθόντας συλλαβέσθαι αὐτοῖς· καὶ ἦλθον καὶ ἔπλησαν ἀμφότερα τὰ πλοῖα, ὥστε βυθίζεσθαι αὐτά.

Luk_5:8 When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down [προσέπεσεν τοῖς γόνασιν] at Jesus' knees, saying, "Depart from me, for I am a sinful man, O Lord!"

Luk_5:8  ἰδὼν δὲ Σίμων Πέτρος προσέπεσεν τοῖς γόνασιν ᾿Ιησοῦ λέγων· ἔξελθε ἀπ᾿ ἐμοῦ, ὅτι ἀνὴρ ἁμαρτωλός εἰμι, Κύριε.

Luk_5:9 For astonishment [θάμβος] gripped him and all who were with him at the haul of fish which they had taken.

Luk_5:9  θάμβος γὰρ περιέσχεν αὐτὸν καὶ πάντας τοὺς σὺν αὐτῷ ἐπὶ τῇ ἄγρᾳ τῶν ἰχθύων ᾗ συνέλαβον,

Luk_5:10 And likewise also it gripped James and John, the sons of Zebedee, who were partners with Simon. And Jesus said to Simon, "Do not fear; from now on you shall be catching men."

 

As soon as you are gripped, loud, passionate, feeling unworthy, making a loud noise, running to fall on your face with deep hot passionate breathing upon amazement at the privilege of the exaltation, you are not far from Jesus telling you what the whole parable is all about.

 

Acts 10 – I Myself Am Also A Man

Act_10:25 Now when it happened that Peter entered, Cornelius met him, and fell at his feet and worshipped him.

Act_10:25  ῾Ως δὲ ἐγένετο τοῦ εἰσελθεῖν τὸν Πέτρον, συναντήσας αὐτῷ ὁ Κορνήλιος πεσὼν ἐπὶ τοὺς πόδας προσεκύνησεν.

Act_10:26 But Peter raised him up, saying, "Stand up; I myself am also a man."

Act_10:26  ὁ δὲ Πέτρος αὐτὸν ἤγειρε λέγων· ἀνάστηθι· κἀγὼ αὐτὸς ἄνθρωπός εἰμι.

 

Reviews, Summaries, and Partial Applications

·         What attitudes of amazement should there be in regards to worthiness and the privilege of exaltation?

·         What are such parables actually saying?

·         If you do not understand these things, then you do not understand parable match ups

·         I, for one, hope to be a preaching match maker that fulfills justice and makes the glories of parables known on the earth

·         As with discipleship, also with a saving marriage: recognizing the benefit being conferred to you, has a lot to do with your salvation and hope and redemption

·         This identification of privilege is only one of many aspects when actually seeing what is going on with parable matchups, but you do have to ultimately take hold of it

·         To actually embrace your parable and be defined by it, at some point you have to recognize the privilege of exaltation

 

Faithful Feelings of Unworthiness Beget Impassioned Tenacity, Not Cowardice – Concluding Climaxes!

 

I hope you can follow me spiritually because this self-abasement and profound humility and zeal and eagerness is ironically the very thing that gives you a basis to uncontrollable and wildly be propelled into greatness.

 

A lot could be said about the virtues of ambition and tenacity, but I will give at least a few examples to provoke you unto righteous faith…

 

Approach the Consuming Fire Throne with Favor, Boldness, and Fear

Heb_4:16 CAB  Therefore let us come boldly to the throne of grace, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

Heb_4:16 Greek  προσερχώμεθα οὖν μετὰ παρρησίας τῷ θρόνῳ τῆς χάριτος, ἵνα λάβωμεν ἔλεον καὶ χάριν εὕρωμεν εἰς εὔκαιρον βοήθειαν.

 

Heb_8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I shall by no means remember anymore."

Heb_9:26 since it would have been necessary for Him to suffer often from the foundation of the world; but now, once at the consummation of the ages, He has been revealed for the removal of sin through the sacrifice of Himself.

 

Heb_10:38-39 CAB  But the just shall live by faith, and if he withdraws, My soul has no pleasure in him."  39  But we are not of those shrinking back to destruction, but of faith, to the saving of the soul.

Heb_10:39 Greek  ἡμεῖς δὲ οὐκ ἐσμὲν ὑποστολῆς εἰς ἀπώλειαν, ἀλλὰ πίστεως εἰς περιποίησιν ψυχῆς.

 

After saying ‘Don’t let your hands grow limp!’ he says…

 

Heb_12:28-29 CAB  Therefore, since we are receiving an unshakable kingdom, let us have grace [χάριν], through which we serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear.  29  For our God is a consuming fire.

Heb_12:28-29 Greek  Διὸ βασιλείαν ἀσάλευτον παραλαμβάνοντες ἔχωμεν χάριν, δι᾿ ἧς λατρεύωμεν εὐαρέστως τῷ Θεῷ μετὰ αἰδοῦς καὶ εὐλαβείας·  29  καὶ γὰρ ὁ Θεὸς ἡμῶν πῦρ καταναλίσκον.

 

It takes a real MAN with lots of manly “nerve” to say: fear me with terrifying reverence and Love me with all your strength and don’t you dare run away from me because of my belt, and in fact you best run to my love quickly no matter how much I might discipline you…

So also women must give all their greatest strength to their men to love and fear them with trembling and run toward them with worshipful love, even if they might carry fearful discipline in their hand. -- talk about emotional dependence on an everything-dominant man.

By the way: the bad shrinking back fear / irreverent fear / unfaithful mourning has to be broken out of cats and humans…

 

Daniel kept saying to the angel of God, ‘show me more, tell me more!’

Dan_12:8-9 CAB  And I heard, but I understood not. And I said, O Lord, what will be the end of these things?  9  And he said, Go, Daniel; for the words are closed and sealed up to the time of the end.

 

(David putting on the Ephod & eating showbread from the temple)

 

Psalms 51 – After Sinning and Repenting, David is Continually Ambitious

Psa_51:13 – I will teach lawless ones

Psa_51:15-17 – prophesying about sacrifice and offering

Psa_51:19 – You will be pleased!

 

So David basically said, “Sorry for killing someone and committing adultery, now let me prophesy the Words of Jesus” -- and David said all that in the same Psalm! This is some profound tenacity.

 

Jacob was wildly after the name and birthright of all Monotheism forever! – He was the second born, and by all means did not fit the bill or feel personally worthy to lay hold of the right of the first born, but he was tenacious out of this world to apprehend the despised birth right and break in, however possible, to get his father’s blessing.

 

Some Partly Related Heroines Who Were Tenacious in the Face of Intimidations

Esther

Tamar – ‘she is more righteous than me…’ (Gen_38:26)

Ruth

 

After Peter at first said “depart from me…a sinful man” (Luk_5:8), he later went on to energetically, wholeheartedly, and enthusiastically grab all the greatness of Jesus’ Kingdom he possibly could.

 

Joh_21:7 – Peter throws himself into the sea

 

God Likes Drama

Joh_20:4 – They run to the tomb

Joh_11:28-31 – Marry quickly runs to Jesus when He comes

 

Notice that God likes drama. Drama is often caused by the contrast of two extreme feelings and possibilities with your whole life on the line.

·         Discipleship is like this

·         The good announcement has hell on one end and marriage to God on the other

·         Greatness is like this: you have a worthless life or greatness in front of you

·         Jesus gives every reason to deny your fleshly passions and forsake all to follow Him

 

Note: You cannot forsake all unless God first intentionally puts things in your hands that you might otherwise want.

    Likewise how will you have the right tenacity and eager faith to truly break into greatness unless you first face the fear of your unworthiness, and then use that contrasting tension to count the cost and require from yourself all the more depth of eagerness to overcome all the odds and build up the courage to run into great redemption anyway?

    By the surpassing greatness of being pressured and compelled with unstoppable spiritual motivations, press in much more passionately to break through and run into greatness…

Likewise how will you have the right tenacity and eager faith to break into greatness unless you first face the fear of your unworthiness, and then use that like the contrasting tension of a rubber band and finally burst forward to overcome all the odds by the surpassing greatness of being pressured and compelled with unstoppable spiritual motivations to much more passionately press in, break through, and run into greatness?

 

Face both the good humbling (which is exceedingly attractive, by the way, to both God and man) as well as the potentially intimidating fears of unworthiness, and then be amazed much more surpassingly with the uncontrollable lust for the great hope of entering into greatness.

 

Your passionate love for the possibility of exaltation and greatness has to infinitely outweigh all the worst fears you have ever had. – Then you will be like David who kept coming wildly after God no matter what.

 

Don’t be a depressed person easily bowing to phantom feelings of condemnation and unworthiness when the goodness of God loves those who hope and believe to actually be rewarded for their trials. Salvation is ambitious love and faith in better things, and is more impressed with the reward than your own fears and dreads of unworthiness.

 

NO complacency allowed! God has made the stakes so infinitely high, if you are not building up passions to get in, then it is only because of dullness and blindness. Truth always gives you all of the most extreme contrasts, motivations, and logical and compelling reasons and realities so that all that you do is dramatic and impassioned adventure in bursting forth into God!

 

No matter how unworthy you might feel or how fearful it is for Esther to risk herself to come before the king, the fiery opportunity to enter into greatness and take hold of exaltation should be so over-motivating, persuading, obsessive, consuming, compulsing, and driving that as soon as the door opens you throw all your greatest fears behind you and are wildly pressed and unbearably compelled to immediately run in with the full force of all your might and energy, and as soon as you burst through the door, you quickly duck and slide in on your knees with reverence and cannot contain the uncontrollably loud and eager cries that burst forth from your mouth for the intense explosions and redemptions of God.

 

So, how much do you want to enter the marriage chamber of God?

How much do you want David to carry you away from the Land of Nabal?

How much do you want to be redeemed by Boaz?

 

On one hand you need to truly recognize how you desperately need the privilege of God redeeming and saving you, and on the other hand you have to overcome all the fear and dread of yourself with the infinitely greater and wildly obsessing hope of redemption and entering into infinity!

 

 

Identifying The Privilege

>> we never went over this lagging thought (I was not transferred in time…)

For spiritual truth lovers, it is not really that exciting if someone comes in uninvited and asks for candy. People have been wanting fire insurance and cheap warm fuzzy feelings from God for a long time, and frankly, it cheapening to even suggest that and is anti-motivating, yes, it is even abominable in its irreverence. In the same way cheap and treacherous lusts have been promoted among the children of men and it itself is also a cheap and defiling parable. But those who have a real reason to bust through the door and beg for real food and grasp at the hope of really eating and reciprocating with the King, that request is quite a bit more relevant and motivating.

 

 

Temple Renewal

 

 

Appeal Recognition vs. Attraction Violations

Recognizing and distinguishing the boundaries between them

>> Appeal Not: Appreciation

 

Different Ways of Responding to Someone’s Gender Appeal

·         Appeal Rejections – Assessing Evil Sentiments Toward Someone’s Gender Appeal
(A) Weakness Despising – Unmerciful conceptions of real weaknesses, esp. when they are vulnerable (i.e. despising Leah, Lazarus, Jesus, etc.)
(B) Opinionated Irk – a self-created and projected illusion and reactional feeling of disgust to justify despising someone else’s gender
(C) Denial – calling the grapes “sour” to avoid discontentment
(Note: these can all overlap)

·         Attraction Violations – Being drawn into pre-marital or post-marital adultery fantasy

·         Appeal Recognition – Common, reverent, objective, non-personable, happy sentiments of accurate value for all those who are owned in the community – ranging from Esther to Jesus, or even sick Lazarus! – happiness, faith, compassion… all good is compatible with truth! (note: accurate compassion for the real Lazarus actually belongs here rather than in Irk)

·         Calling Recognition – Perceiving parable matchup / ordained marriage (only one person for life)

 

These first two are not exclusive, but these last two are.

 

World: Rejections & Attractions vs. Assembly: Recognitions & Callings

Recognition Rejoicing & Calling Excitement

The World deals with Gender Appeals in terms of rejections and attractions, but the Righteous Assembly deals in terms of recognition of what is good, compassion for what is truly weak, and downright excitement for what pertains to calling. Note: You cannot maintain righteousness and keep wrongly assessing other people’s gender appeals as weakness. There is no gender despising allowed in the Righteous Assembly, because it is God who made all gender as a glorious prize to set His heart on.

 

We got to know the difference!

 

God Gets Passive-Aggressive Against Irk

Gen_29:17 Leah's eyes were weak [ἀσθενεῖς], but Rachel was beautiful in form and attractive.

Gen_29:17 And the eyes of Leah were weak, but Rachel was beautiful in appearance, and exceedingly fair in countenance.

Gen_29:17  οἱ δὲ ὀφθαλμοὶ Λειας ἀσθενεῖς, Ραχηλ δὲ καλὴ τῷ εἴδει καὶ ὡραία τῇ ὄψει.

Gen_29:18 Jacob loved Rachel. He said, "I will serve you seven years for Rachel, your younger daughter."

Gen_29:18 And Jacob loved Rachel, and said, I will serve you seven years for your younger daughter Rachel.

Gen_29:18  ἠγάπησεν δὲ Ιακωβ τὴν Ραχηλ καὶ εἶπεν Δουλεύσω σοι ἑπτὰ ἔτη περὶ Ραχηλ τῆς θυγατρός σου τῆς νεωτέρας.

 

Gen_29:31 WEB Yahweh saw that Leah was hated, and he opened her womb, but Rachel was barren.

Gen_29:31 CAB And when the Lord God saw that Leah was hated, He opened her womb; but Rachel was barren.

Gen_29:31  Ἰδὼν δὲ κύριος ὅτι μισεῖται Λεια, ἤνοιξεν τὴν μήτραν αὐτῆς· Ραχηλ δὲ ἦν στεῖρα.

 

Deu_21:15

 

Jesus

·         Like one from whom men hide their faces

·         He Despised the shame

 

Why we call “Attraction” “Adultery”

·         Attraction is called “adultery” especially in reference to exclusivity

·         By calling it this, we are just saying what attraction really is in almost every case, by reminding you were it leads!

·         You are not “just being honest” when you say you are helplessly attracted to them, I am being honest when I say you are choosing to commit adultery when you cooperate with feeling of attraction toward them

 

Reject Lust, Not People

·         Reject the idea to sin, not the goodness of their appeal.

·         We do not want personable attraction or rejection, but objective recognition.

·         We can avoid lust while not preaching heresy to our own heart against each other’s appeal.

 

Contentment should be if you get to obey the Word of God, not if you get to have what looks really appealing to you. (Remember the incest of David’s son!)

 

 (jumping over reverence and instantly and selfishly grabbing what does not belong to you in your sentiments)

 

Deeper Definitions of Disaster and Duty

Let’s define and redefine some words to seek a more orthodox awareness…

 

Someone can be “attractive” (appealing) and have every dynamite potential to very potently ravish and please the heart of their spouse and family, but that is not the same thing as a non-family member being “attracted” and drawn into their sexuality from outside of the home.

 

Reverent people must approach gender glories with sacredness, so that they recognize the appeal of potential attractiveness from a safe distance without actually being drawn in themselves in the process.

 

The active sexual admiration of non-pertinent people is unlawful and violates and profanes what does not belong to them.

 

·         The “attractiveness” of a family member’s gender belongs exclusively to their family, especially for women. (If you are not of their family, then move along.)

·         Willingly admiring and feeling “attracted” to someone’s (opposite gender) “attractiveness”, and committing personable rejoicing in their gender glories, is for fornicators who steel and murder in their heart what does not belong to them in reality. (Sometimes also applicable to same gender, or even your own gender.)

·         Feeling “attracted” to someone is for reckless unbelievers who sin continually without ever having hope of obedience and self-control.

·         “Appeal Recognition” is for the reverent remnant of the earth who deal carefully in rejoicing in the rich blessings of God, and blush and shy away with modest shame from beholding the “attractiveness” of gender glories lest “attraction” sin ever happen.

·         The reverent fear God too much to willingly lust and fornicate in their heart, and that is why God is pleased to save and glorify their lives with Him forever.

 

Family example: I like my mom and my sister having long hair. It has the potential to help me get over sicknesses faster. I like it when my mom does not wear makeup any more. etc.

 

Attraction is when you start to be drawn into the admiration and/or desire of another person’s sexuality, especially based on unlawfully rejoicing in their sexual glories and participating in entertaining personal admiration and praise.

 

“Appeal Recognition” is when you objectively recognize the good gender glories God made while shunning the world’s random and purposeless despising which even rejects and criticizes the gender glories among the Assembly.

Recognition means that we do not have any despising going on at all which would endanger any person with being cheapened based on worldly and lustful distortions and blindness-es.

 

Get Inspiration from God, or Else Wage War Against False Definitions of Yourself

You either need inspired considerations or ruthless war and deep cleansing rejection against uninspired attractions. -- the doctrine of uninspired attractions really does come with its own theology and assumptions that makes completely immovable strongholds, and they fester and promote falsehood until they are completely exposed, and denounced, rejected, and defeated.

 

It is not good enough to say, "I really am attracted to them, but I guess because I am not fully called to that I should just go against my potent needs & feelings and just avoid dealing with things too much"

 

There is a foundational, evil deception going on. That is NOT who you really are!  Some untrue and evil definition is acting like you and speaking in first person and trying to define you according to a fleshly definition so you can believe things that exclude your hope and frustrate your faith with instabilities. Who are you in the first place? By faith in recreation you are not even someone who is intrinsically motivated by non-exclusivity. Therefore, You do not ever have to despair against the pressures to commit pre or post-marital adultery.

 

You don't just need to deny your temptations, because that is not really what you even want to begin with! It is lying about who you really are. And your definition is cleanness, perfectness, sexual purity, romantic exclusivity, monogamy, happiness in pure boundaries, being fully content and happy with what God has called you to.

 

Die to the flesh every day. If any non-exclusive, deep-set, defining "desires" impress against your righteousness, then you know you are dealing with counterfeits and deceptions and lies that are not even who you really are.

 

That is false and non-exclusive theology. God made you for one person and you can fully resolve in full contentment on that by faith in the truth.

 

For super-spiritual people, believing attraction without prophecy is not truth. Deception enters in, and deeply hidden strongholds of falsehood (& even heresy) will do arpox in dominant, aggressive, magical strength when we even partly believe uninspired attractions.

 

We are at war with the mafia. We cannot let anarchy rain. We have to pull down strong holds and raise up pure blameless truth and integrity and sanity.

 

Irk & Attraction Both Come From Pride

 

·         >> based on proudly and haphazardly boasting your lust before you as you go
>> (of course you’re going to madly come up with disgust for others when you yourself acting disgustingly!

·         >> by prideful indulgence, You came up with the idea of profaning your sexuality, not them!)

 

 

Sometimes people have to justify why they “aren’t attracted” to someone, so they establish despising to protect themselves against lust, and even think of someone as “gross” in order to accomplish that. – but of course hypocrisy says, “I’ll still love them, but I am not attracted to them, and it feels gross to even consider that there is good in their gender.” This is a feeling of “irk” against one person while “feeling attracted” to another person. But you should repent of “feeling (randomly) attracted” to some people and feeling “not attracted” to other people, because all of this lust is based on pride and indulgence.

(clarify: thorns vs. All “irk” that is not based on moral disgust is evil.)

 

If any Godly person can love their spouse’s gender glories, then you do not have a right to despise and believe any “irk” feelings against that spouse. This redefines what you are allowed to think about other people’s gender glories.

 

We might even need to be careful with things like “wrinkles”, for example. Because one day you may grow old, and then you’ll really need help with an orthodox view of your body. Pride really does defile and pollute what is truly good. God enjoyed Abraham being old and producing a baby with Sarah. God really likes it when people defy all the odds and have truth in their body by faith even after their bodies are “as good as dead”.

 

We should destroy all such evil, prideful, vain feelings of unlawful attraction lust and despising “irk”, which has no moral basis and is not real beyond the evil despising of lustful people.

 

Remember that even with what appeared to be a “worst case scenario” when it comes to non-glorious appearance, Jesus had no glory that people should desire Him but He was extremely worthy of being desired, and now has every godly woman’s heart in the world! (talk about Mac-ing Out!) In His life here he had no women to marry Him, but now He has the romance of all godly humanity lusting after Him continually…

 

Remembering Jesus’ humiliation and exaltation by the Father can help us sober up from despising. It tells us how much our Irk feelings are really worth!

 

Despising may randomly happen to many people without being noticed, but we should intentionally hold ourselves in question to see if we would then also be prone to despise Jesus’ humiliation as well. If we would despise Jesus’ appearance based on our posture and values, then this tells us something important about the worthless, demonic, and perverted nature of “irk” feelings we have for some people as well as the worthless temporary lusts we have for others. We should never call something ugly which God has not cursed, and even the afflictions from God should be set aside in our eyes for a more healthy view of their glory.

 

 

The Goal and Statement of Faith of Appeal Recognition

·         I am glad God generically made almost all people with sufficient gender appeal for very good things.

·         Although there are many varieties of glories, and although some people shine in some or even many of these varieties in exceedingly glorious ways…

·         And although God likes to reward the righteous with exceeding happiness (& even uses this as bate in showcasing the reward of being reverent)

·         And although their gender glories may or may not temporarily seem very appealing

·         And although I, like anyone else with anyone else, may very easily and cheaply be deceived into thinking that their glory should pertain to meeting my needs (as though God were pleased to speak by lust to communicate His will)

·         Yet despite all of this, I refuse to degrade my sentiments into breaking personable boundaries by partaking of their gender glories

·         I refuse to even start taking steps and letting things start in my heart of going in the direction of being drawn into personable admiration, that is, being attracted in my heart, as though God has authorized their good glory to meet my needs because of my lust

·         I see enough evidence of their glory to recognize that it exists, but that does not mean that I have a right to peer further into it, and admire it, and take it into my heart as a special and personable thing that pertains to me

·         The nations lust left and right and are absolutely convinced that they cannot help it, but we refuse to even acknowledge what they take for granted to be absolute and unavoidable

·         Rather than being foolish and indulgent consumers who randomly lust based on vain pride, we instead hope to preserve ourselves in exclusivity for maxing out on sizzling callings that exalt us into great marriages

 

Recognition is Better at Avoiding Lust Than Fear Tactics

Some, in an attempt to avoid lust, have told themselves that other people are “unattractive”, and found ways to try and keep their heart “clean” by criticizing those they could otherwise be tempted by… and although this might not be immediately recognized because it is usually applied against perverts (since even Proverbs despises immoral woman and men), it is not yet truth and causes even Bigger problems when applied against those who belong to the faith of truth.

 

If done in absolute and perfect truth, Appeal Recognition allows us to believe the physical good truth that God has glorified in each other without lust.

Truth is always better than untruth, even when someone is trying to do good with untruth.

But the painful challenge is that there is basically no “middle ground” between falsely despising or lusting vs. recognizing appeal.

 

Don’t Feel Attracted to Non-Spouses!

·         It is often myth-ed that you cannot help who you “feel attracted to” or fall in love with – but you can choose not to lust!

·         When you are married to someone, you should not “feel attracted” to someone else, instead you should be completely true in your faith to that spouse, inside and out, in theory and in truth.

·         You should be so true and righteous that you choose monogamy NOW before you are married, and renounce Attraction-Violations

 

Sin & Temptation vs. Appeal Recognition

 

Question: what is the difference between cheap lust vs. reasonable appeal recognition?

Answer: David had that good understanding before it was even lawful for him to marry Abigail...

 

Question: How should we process Appeal Recognition and keep all of the disciples absolutely pure????

Answer: There is some kind of superior and freeing truth here for the majority of godly people when relating to each other in absolute purity...

 

Question: How do you 'recognize appeal from a distance' without some defilement happening somewhere, especially in a weak moment when your integrity is being tested?

Answer: Adam was tempted with the fruit before he ever sinned, & even Jesus was tempted in every point even as we are tempted without sinning...

 

Heb_4:15 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but having been tempted in all respects in quite the same way as we are, yet without sin.

Heb_4:15  οὐ γὰρ ἔχομεν ἀρχιερέα μὴ δυνάμενον συμπαθῆσαι ταῖς ἀσθενείαις ἡμῶν, πεπειρασμένον δὲ κατὰ πάντα καθ᾿ ὁμοιότητα χωρὶς ἁμαρτίας.

Heb_4:16 Therefore let us come boldly to the throne of grace, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

Heb_4:16  προσερχώμεθα οὖν μετὰ παρρησίας τῷ θρόνῳ τῆς χάριτος, ἵνα λάβωμεν ἔλεον καὶ χάριν εὕρωμεν εἰς εὔκαιρον βοήθειαν.

 

Also: Mat_4: / Luk_4: – Jesus was tempted in the wilderness

 

Factoring in temptation as a normal/intentional/necessity for righteous people in estimating your integrity needs is very reasonable and even required for complete righteousness and answers... Even perfect Adam and Eve and more perfect Jesus were tempted. Temptations were an element for the perfect from the beginning before sin ever modified the human race...

 

Seeing that the fruit is desirable is not the same thing as taking it and eating it.

 

Ideally, we would not have bred shoved up in our face while we’re seeking to fast, but even if that happens, we are blessed if we endure all temptation and only receive what God has given us.

 

Big and Vital and Exciting Truth: The more you say no to polygamy and yes to faithfulness and reserved purity, the greater your exclusivity will be, and the greater your exclusivity is before marriage, the bigger the explosion after marriage.

 

If exclusivity is really your goal, you should greatly rejoice at the opportunity to choose it over and over again… (remember: this rejoicing happens when you believe you’ll win).

 

Choose A Spouse Who Has Said No

If I were to choose a spouse for myself or others, I would much rather greatly rejoice in a spouse who has recognized appeal in many, fought long and hard in honor to say “no” over and over again, and then made a distinction with the one they are now obsessed over marrying.

 

More “No”s Now Means More Obsession Later -- Extremely Important!

There is a real sense in which the more you have said no to allowing many very appealing people to be seriously taken to heart personably, the more romantic and overwhelmingly exciting it is when you say “yes” to someone you cannot help but obsess over!

 

Joseph fleeing from adultery was more exciting than Michal getting married!

Just how privileged do you thing Joseph’s wife was?

 

If you are tested with temptation by appealing situations, then be motivated by the surpassing excitement of something so much more superior and infinite…

 

Temptations are only temporary… Sanity will be restored in God’s next expression.  If you just endure and choose sanity in the meantime, you will be rewarded.

 

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Then the focused needs can be tested with temptations in the wilderness, and lust can be narrowed down and dealt with / defeated on a meaningful basis.

 

Same goes for spot light lust / "ruling and reigning", and other glories, pleasures, and exaltations

 

Don’t Take Your Lust Temptations Seriously

One of the greatest keys to fighting lust is to reduce your own attractions and not take the attractions of others personally. In fact, don't even take your own attractions toward others as truly being personal toward them, since lust never actually truly knows the one it defiles (sin not knowing the value assessed by God's voice), but instead search to find a reverence toward their appeal, the real original substance and answer to what is otherwise usually exploited by lust. That not-so-personable recognition of their Appeal is a full and complete and accurate response to the meaning of another person's gender potencies who has been placed in proximity to your life. Don't take your personal attractions personally, but instead, crucify your intoxications, your heart-felt attractions, and instead apprehend the real purpose of their appeal...

 

Appeal Recognition Without Lust

Bible: So-and-so was very beautiful in face and good to look at :+)

The Inspired Commentary of Scripture on these events was mostly written through people who were not married to these attractive Holy people. In his writing and compilation, Moses celebrated the passions that were ignited in Isaac by the wounding beauty of Rebecca. Men wrote about impressive women without lusting after them! – now that’s supernatural! This is beyond any man’s comprehension today, but it is somehow possible, because it made it into the Bible…..!

 

Reverent Appeal Recognition is when you are able to rejoice over how good of a deal the Shunamit or Solomon gets when they marry each other, without defiling your soul at all with attractions to either of them in the process. Recognizing “Appeal” (based on their calling) is a less direct way of rejoicing in someone's gender excitement Even when someone else marries an appealing person and gets a REALLY good deal (in many ways)... – “I'll bet they are going to have fun!” This is the Biblical alternative to watching a romance movie where two attractive people get together, and you love to watch every heated moment, even though you are not one of them, except with the Bible there is no visual prostitution going on in the process. The difference between Soap Operas and the Bible is that the Bible requires faith in order to apprehend much of its message and hope, and if you do apprehend it, its faith dodges all defilement, and at the same time, it blows every heart-throb movie out of the water!

 

Appealing Examples You Might Have Seen or Heard About

Righteous Appeal Can Partly Happen when you watch some guy take a girl's family to a restaurant to do a surprise marriage proposal, and all the waitresses are peaking around the corner to watch what happens when he pops the question. A corporate celebration of the exalted passions of others... It is good and highly needed/required for societies to highly celebrate the gender excitements of each member without prostitutions. It is right for all to share in the consolation, relief, satisfaction, and fun, by rejoicing highly over each married couple.

    Exclusivity means you are only “jealous” if God has called you to marry them. …Remember: David and Abigale!

    Appeal allows you to protect your heart from the deceptive and potentially defiling intoxications of Attraction-violations, and maintain exclusivity.

    Reverent Appeal says, Abigail belongs to another, and I will be content (& hopefully satisfied) with that unless told otherwise.

    You should (hopefully/ideally) get to the point where you are only 'unsatisfied' whenever there seems to be a marriage calling toward someone. Other than that, remain exclusive!

    You can cry out with full urgency to apprehend that which Anointed One Apprehended you, and this is the only way you should insistently beg God for marriage.

 

Fighting For Cleanness In The Midst of Potent Recognition

9/22/14

>> The challenges of being excited over someone else’s qualities... And why wise people actually even obsess over this!

 

Blunt fact: Virtue is extremely appealing & compelling & attractive.

 

Although it is honorable and righteous to consider and reverently value virtuous people as "extremely appealing", and amazing, and breathtaking, and although this admiration in your heart has its righteous basis, however you should be extra careful to do so very "reverently" and carefully and quickly process what is the extent and what is the nature of the divine placement of their extravagant appeal in your life...

    Just as David left the sizzling charm of Abigail's breathtaking virtue in the arms of another man's intimacy, and refused to delight in unlawful warmth, and refused to interpret objective honor from her extreme faithfulness (in loving the divine truth in him) as if these were hints of personable yearning from her to him... So also we have to very quickly place the potency of a person's appeal in the righteous posture.

    We should remember to do this swiftly and militantly lest we forget our own lack of exclusivity, and actually end up bringing dishonor on the very virtues we love in them, by bring cheapening on their gender with disrespecting games that are less-than-obsessive toward their gender value.

    We must zealously place them "as sisters" and brothers before we defile them with charming flattery that is less than obsessive in its basis of commitment. "Till death do us Part" is quiet an extreme and obsessive riveted commitment, and few ever even come close to giving over a reasonable obsession that is necessary to match such a commitment.

 

Although appeal is sometimes worthy of consideration, it should still not be taken seriously without confirmation.

 

Thorns! – Helpful Boundaries That Even Apply To The Righteous

 

- SoS: Thorns -- learn them early w out despising in the meantime!

 

A lily among thorns! -- one of the only places where righteous people could be like thorns to another righteous person

 

It is possible for someone to be infinitely great, and still someone be considered a “thorn” relative to someone else’s calling.

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In terms of objectivity and social recognition, they have their own gender appeals.

In terms of personable appetite (preference, craving, conceit, desire,) they are thorns!

 

We all celebrate their gender glories and we all have great joy with them whenever they have fun, but we let no personable sight of them ever enter into our hearts.

 

 

Selfish Imagination Lust After Your Fantasy of Their Person

 

Michal’s Bitter Story of Short-Lived Lust-Love of David

See: Divorce and Remarriage Repentance Revolution -- 2Sa 3 – David and The Lord’s Example About Divorce And Remarriage

 

·         1Sa_17:25, 1Sa_17:46-51; 1Sa_18:17 – The MT and some LXX copies indicates that after David saved the kingdom by killing Goliath, king Saul owed his daughter to David as a wife.

·         1Sa_18:20-27 – Saul gave Michal to David as his first wife for “100 Philistine foreskins” (MT says “200”).

·         1Sa_25:44 – David was separated from her, and she remarried another man named Phaltiel, (having been given to him by her father).

·         2Sa_3:14-16 – When David came to power and called his first wife back to himself.

·         2Sa_6:16-23 – Michal was bitter in the end.

 

This bitter story spans through First and Second Samuel.

 

2Sa_3:14-16 CAB  And David sent [ἐξαπέστειλεν] messengers [ἀγγέλους] to [πρὸς] Ishbosheth [μεμφιβοσθε*] the son of Saul, saying [λέγων], Restore [Ἀπόδος – give over (to)] me my wife Michal, whom I took for a hundred foreskins of the Philistines.  15  And Ishbosheth [μεμφιβοσθε*] sent [ἀπέστειλεν], and took her from her husband [ἔλαβεν αὐτὴν παρὰ τοῦ ἀνδρὸς αὐτῆς], from [παρὰ] Paltiel the son of Laish.  16  And her husband [ὁ ἀνὴρ αὐτῆς] went [ἐπορεύετο] with her [μετ᾿ αὐτῆς] weeping behind her as far as Bahurim. And Abner said to [πρὸς] him, Go, return [πορεύου ἀνάστρεφε], [i.e. to your home]; and he returned.

 

A Fan Proposes to a Famous Singer

Story: A Singer had a fan say that ‘god told them to marry them’, but the singer knew they had no idea who he really was…

The fan was just imagining things about popular people on TV that they don’t actually know.

The same thing happens on smaller scales…

 

The Distraction And Deception of Qualities-Lust

9/6/14; 4/10/15

 

Some have said, "don't focus on finding the right person, but focus on becoming the right person" - you can be tantalized (supposedly) over "other people's qualities" to the point that you don't see that the compulsion is really about satisfying your own needs (it is never really about how special they are), and while you are supposedly focused on being impressed with their qualities (or even "virtues") you are forgetting to meet their (and your own) crying needs for the exclusivity of your soul.

 

Dreaming for Yourself About Someone You Do Not Actually Know

Looking for generic ideal qualities (GIQs) leave you hyping up a fantasy of your own heart about the value of someone you don't actually know .

>> Example: Michal lusts after David's fame

 

·         Lusting after ideal qualities can be so generic

·         it happens without identifying who they actually are

 

Specialized confirmations tell what God is actually saying about the potency of someone's specialized precious calling.

>>Scrip: Example: Gen_24: Rebecca and the Camel Test -- Servant saw Rebecca's impressive service of the Camels...

 

Gen_24:51 …let her be wife to the son of thy master, as the Lord has said.

 

 

Shinning Light and Redefining Love by Loving Who They Really Are

Minimizing Attractions & seeking who they really are

 

Lust is wreckless, but Love has integrity.

Lust is selfish and ignorant, but love is wise and helpful.

 

You may indeed love the pleasure of being with someone in the same way as a childish dog who does not know what it good. But a responsible parent, without romance, has more love for their child by keeping them out of the street than you do with all of the wreckless zeal for your ignorant lust combined. Now you boldly take someone from their parents as though it were supposed to be an upgrade to their life in bringing them into the grown up marriage state, but you confer less real value to them than their parents did, and you have instead downgraded them in your folly and unlovingness

 

Loving who someone really is, is not the same thing as willingly loving their gender.

Loving who someone really is, means knowing and valuing them based on how God feels about them, and prefering their greatest benefit and profit and life and salvation above your personable inclusion in their life. Loving them means loving their profit above your own personal pleasure from them.

Loving someone's gender does NOT indicate the greatest and deepest love you can have for someone, unless indeed, marrying them would truly be for their greatest profit and salvation.

Loving someone unlawfully is always unloving and selfish, because it prioritizes your own deluded pleasure with the unsaved fantasy of who you imagine them to be, rather than confering real value and benefit to their life by promoting that they become the greatness that God seeks them to be. Your useless lustful love seeks the temporary pleasure of sin above the saving of their soul and glorification of who they really are in truth.

And what is your useless love worth when it cannot even survive the Judgement without being condemned? Even if you do marry them and experience good from that marriage, after Judgement, all that was hapenstancially good in your life will be stripped away from you since it was only due to the automated processes which are accredited to God alone, the ever-wise Creator. The only love you actually contributed was worthless to benefitting them, and too shallow to save them, and left them on their own in evil.

 

Now unlawful pleasure is for a short season and is never love, but treachery, and foolishness, and selfishness, and it makes you guilty of defying their life and goodness and honor and worth. If you fall into this lust as everyone else does, then you are not doing them any good favor by loving them, but at best you are only flatering them with your wrecklessness, tempting them with your deception, ignorance, shortsightedness, and shallow view of them, and using them as a resource to consume for your own pleasure above an eternally valuable soul to save for eternaty.

You do not love someone when you try to trick them into doing something that will hurt them. You do not love someone when you would rather them believe your perverse foolishness above God's truth. You do not love someone when you tempt them to sin with you. You do not love someone when you are willing to add your unsaving gender to their life without the revealed Word of God blessing you to multiply life with them. You cannot love someone when you seek their intimacy without knowing who they are. If you are willing to move forward with seeking your desires before resolving your own ignorance of what God has said about them, you do not yet love them.

Now God really loves His creatures and is continually seeking to save them, and when defiled little you comes along, if you actually loved them you would hold back what is unlawful and dirty that they might not be tainted or hindered from the truth by your worthless and cheapening lusts.

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So you don't know who they are, but is there any hope for marriage before supernatural knowledge?

Do you hope to eventually learn to love them after partaking of their good things in marriage? This can almost only happen if you have a saine and sober mediator who is only willing to put you both together in ways that are in both of your best interests. You can be much safer deffering to such a one, and fervantly interceeding that they may do what is good and that you may gain commendable understanding as soon as possible in the meantime.

But don't claim the deepest love for someone until you aprehend something of a real knowledge of them and their significance.

 

The Guilt of Loving Fairytales Over Integrity

Remember: You should be seeking to complete/fill up a sacrifice before looking for romantic input. – this is the integrity of exclusivity.

 

Non-exclusivity is a series of fairytale love stories with different people where their magical qualities complete your lack of integrity without you ever having to learn to draw water and feed cattle.

Since these fantasies change repeatedly, they will attach their affection upon whatever victim happens to fall close enough within the convenience of your ideals and appetite.

 

See: Give Over a Sacrifice Before Receiving Romantic Input

 

Betraying Prince Charming by Your Own Self-Deception

Your own need for exclusivity is crying out because without it, especially if they are wise, you will leave them hanging in bitterness, and you will stab "prince charming" with misery, having only given them Michael's fleeting and treacherous attraction. - You don't love THEM, but your own ideas about THEM, which makes a harlotry of their image that cheaply pretends to meet your own needs without you doing crying justice in your romantic passions.

 

The Betrayal of David in His Trial

Making a harlotry fairytale of another person, is when a person loves David's popularity and social glory as he rides in on a horse, but despising his shame when God lets Satan persecute him. When David's facial expressions look guilty and despicable to you, and at the time of Nabal's outrageous accusation, you are still liable to love in the house of another person, and abandon greatness when they are chased, whipped, persecuted, and wounded.

    You can praise David when God makes it easy for everyone to feel good about him, but you will betray him with love for others when God brings down David's head in shame. And when David's wounded heart needs help the most, instead of being a help and strength and support to him, you will add hatred to his wounds and love adultery, and comfort a stranger, and leave him sleeping in the bed of hurt by himself!

 

The Bitter End of Fairy Tales

Like all fantasies, as soon as it says,

"and they lived happily ever after"

The fairy tale pops with bitterness, as you are shocked back into the sad reality of still lacking the crying virtue and integrity to really love the truth in another person.

 

Fiery Trials or Fairy Tales?

I would rather choose the temporary pain of fiery trials, rather than the bitter end of fairy tales.

 

Minimize Attractions

Downplay Disrespect Your Attractions

 

It really is very simple: no word, not serious.

If there is no Divine help, then get really unimpressed & unmotivated toward that direction.

 

Name some generic things girls are sometimes attracted to

5/9/15

·         Hairdo

·         Kindness

·         Voice?

·         Smell

·         Oh yes, visual might sometimes happen too, right? (the reverent are going to make their mark in amazing ways with the lost women of this age...)

 

A Summary of What it Means to Minimize Attractions

Exclusivity is about continually rejecting your own natural, worthless, selfish, vain attractions… It is about minimizing, disrespecting, insulting, degrading, and rejecting your own stray attractions to other people’s qualities (whenever they may arise) and reserving yourself for something much more exciting and real and true in the favor of God matching you up with a great story/parable that achieves a proclamation of greatness through your lives.

 

We have heard about "...a woman spurned" – but we will proceed anyway

 

Foolish Harlot: “I Feel so Much Love for Him!”/ Let Us Solace Ourselves With Love…

Pro_7:18 WEB  Come, let's take our fill of loving until the morning. Let's solace ourselves with loving.

Pro_7:18 CAB  Come, and let us enjoy love until the morning; come, and let us embrace in love.

Pro_7:18 Greek  ἐλθὲ καὶ ἀπολαύσωμεν φιλίας ἕως ὄρθρου, δεῦρο καὶ ἐγκυλισθῶμεν ἔρωτι·

 

But due to her inexperience with meaningful, quality thought, a shallow-hearted prostitute it is excited about being gullible so that she is greatly amazed and impressed with the raise in her own blood pressure, and the fumes of her own silly intoxications, and considers the hallucinations of her drunkenness to be visions from heaven!

 

She thinks the indulgent ecstasy of losing control when going in heat is honorable.

 

Sin feels profoundly novel to one who is ignorant of righteousness.

 

She would be received as one worthy of compassion if she would simply cry in meekness at the pain of exposure to temptations when her needs were not met...

A harlot is surprised by the whims of her own lust but a reverent person easily comprehends her predictable and shallow sin...

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You Shall Not Be Shallow in Your Sorrowful Temptations

If you must cry, do so only briefly due to your understanding, knowing that you have not lost anything since it is truth you are after and not lust or disappointing vanity... Have understanding and know that sanity will soon relieve the wise who believe...

Do not sorrow as the world sorrows, or despair when you are increased in value, but share God's values and let your sorrow attach to no attractive person, but let your happiness quickly know that You have gained help to be more exclusive...

 

Sorrow only until your understanding appears, and be sorrowful for lack of truth, rather than lack of romance. Then quickly be glad that you were not allowed to be cheapened, and rejoice in increased exclusivity.

 

Where is the Real Source of Your Attraction?

Is it that they're qualities are actually compelling you to marry, or is it based on actually knowing their qualities/significance/calling/parable?

Selfish lust is extremely treacherous and unfaithful...

 

You will be in someone else’s bed within a matter of time and circumstance w Michal's lust...

 

Winnow Out the Chaff So You Only Have Truth Left

3/23/15

 

Disregard/despise/degrade your natural attractions/lusts so that all you have left is faithful sentiments.

 

After you minimize your more shallow attractions, then all that should be left are those that are unhindered and promote other people's best interests / greatest glory / exaltation

– vs. –

The seductress who shallowly pursues lust at the expense of her value and his life!

 

The real deal is when you know / accurately perceive (at least to a sufficient degree) another person's real value (according to the sentiments of God), and based on that reality, you are making exciting considerations of maxing out on that value. (results in bliss.)

 

Consecrated Parables Are The Only Valuable Lust

Unlike Michal, the only attractions you should take seriously or ever happily express are the deep and sizzling, provocative parables of God.

 

All sexuality should zealously be linked by faith to its reality in the marriage of Anointed One. "let nothing be wasted" with the bread Jesus multiplied, and let no aspect of gender be made worthless as a means to its own end... Let no gender glory be its own goal... Let nothing perish in this life for selfishness and worthless temporary pleasures, because such things perish under a bitter and unbearable rebuke at death.

 

All other attractions which are outside of the parables of God should be confessed and opposed, and you should begg for accountability to cut them off and put them far from you just as if you were already married to someone else, because in your non-exclusivity you are being tempted with premarital adultery, and you should not play around with things that disqualify you as a proper wife/spouse. Even if you never get married in this life, you are being defiled by cheating against your husband from heaven. If you grieve over premarital adulteries in the seasons of your temptations, you can rejoice greatly over parables of truth in the times of your exaltation.

 

Do not ever delight or be happy with any non-exclusive, non-favored, anti-prophetic attractions you may feel. Hate them as a married woman shuns daydreams of adultery so that you will be free from sin and married with exclusive delight on into greatness.

 

Minimize Everything That Does Not Save

·         The result of a seductresses is death

·         The goal of a believing woman is, 'how do you know oh woman, if you will save your man?' -- even if a man had already been saved, this is still their goal lest he slip from that hope.

·         If following attractions would not save someone (glorify them / answer their value), then make little of them.

·         If you do not understand / perceive how to transmit real value (incl. How to meet needs...) then you should minimize all attractions

·         If your attractions do not have real substance to them, & are not based on knowledge & perception, then they should be minimized...

 

Wisdom is Very Unexcited About Lust

 

The way of wisdom makes you extremely unexcited about everything everyone else is thrilled about

·         Football

·         TV/Movies

·         Falling in love/lust

 

Same Old Boring, Dull, Unimpressive Temptations that are Not Impressive Enough to Take Seriously

Be wise and downplay your attraction/needs/lust/infatuation/interest. Until you have a divine basis, don't take your attraction seriously at all... it is not deep, meaningful, or even that much (no matter how intensely you feel it)... it is shallow, superficial, fleeting, temporary, not real, not intense enough to take seriously, not persuasive, not impressive, notable, admirable. It doesn't matter at all if "you have never felt this way before". What you believe and feel is NOT special, unique, beautiful, or lovely. Every dog and every fool has had your exact same lust with a thousand million more people, and just give it some time and or just the right circumstances and you'll quickly be feeling these same things about another 100 other people.

 

Although you may be temporarily hurt by the rakings of temptations, just wait in faith and wisdom for your sanity to return. “Wisdom is Very Unexcited About Lust”.

 

No Temptation Has Overtaken You Except That Which Is Common To Man

1Co_10:12-14 CAB  So then, let him who thinks he stands take heed, lest he should fall!  13  No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man [i.e. it is not special or divine]; but God is faithful, who will not permit you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation, He will also make the way out, so as for you to be able to bear it.  14  Wherefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry.

1Co_10:12-14 Greek  ῞Ωστε ὁ δοκῶν ἑστάναι βλεπέτω μὴ πέσῃ.  13  πειρασμὸς ὑμᾶς οὐκ εἴληφεν εἰ μὴ ἀνθρώπινος· πιστὸς δὲ ὁ Θεός, ὃς οὐκ ἐάσει ὑμᾶς πειρασθῆναι ὑπὲρ ὃ δύνασθε, ἀλλὰ ποιήσει σὺν τῷ πειρασμῷ καὶ τὴν ἔκβασιν, τοῦ δύνασθαι ὑμᾶς ὑπενεγκεῖν.  14  Διόπερ, ἀγαπητοί μου, φεύγετε ἀπὸ τῆς εἰδωλολατρίας.

 

Taking The Magic Out Of Lust

10/9/14

 

>> Scrip:

"...sniffing at the air" (Jer_2:24) is the shameful behavior of a woman as an animal. Multiple partners where "any will do" is about your own need instead of the spiritual meaning of someone else.

 

Exclusivity is about taking the magic out of lust, and sacrificially reducing what overwhelmingly feels divinely inspired, and rationally wording it by crucifixion* into its uninspired and shameful/dishonorable description that it is... What Disney says is praiseworthy and surely feels like the most solid and divine love from God you have ever had in your whole life, is actually shallow deception that is less than the experienced foresight of a lost person...

The whimsical and fickle lust of your special feelings for someone, your special "relationship", is not only uninspired, but it is less sacred (holy) than the wisdom of a lost person!

Your unholy reverence over how the gods put you together or made you have enraptured feelings for someone is not praiseworthy, but a predictable, pathetic, typical, repeat of what every romantic drunk has foolishly worshiped.

 

* Instead you should pursue extremist sobriety, and all re-convincing of your mind, beliefs and perceptions...

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Deep Sleep vs. Deep Quality

Your feelings are not really that “deep” -- despite how thoroughly deep your feelings feel... They are only “deep” in the sense of "deep sleep" because you are so deeply intoxicated so that you are that thoroughly far from conscious and rational thought...

 

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Fight Deception

Insult the lack of truth and inspired thoughtfulness of your romantic feelings... Pop their bubble and save yourself alive from delusion, deception, drunkenness, sin-tainted and beast-like instincts and impulses that override all reasonableness and clear headed and sound judgment, and are even willing to self-deceive yourself in a desperate attempt to do anything to get you in a sexual relationship with someone.

 

Sin-tainted instincts are willing to self-deceive you, or do any other desperate measure, or do anything at all, sounding every biological and sub-conscientious and psychological alarm in your being ...as though your life depended on it, all to get you to succumb to the call of mating -- even if it means fornication.

 

Your sin-tainted being will do whatever it takes to get you desperate to have a partner, no matter how it tricks you and messes you up to get there to that goal...

 

I am telling you the truth: you are not doing something honorable and blessed when you have special feelings for someone, you are being tricked by your own natural and fleshly predictable desires and shallow and gullible lusts that everyone else falls for... You are made a joke, and subjected to being wrong about your feelings like every other looser that has ever felt lust.

 

(i.e. by feeling special about someone whom you are not marrying.)

 

The only thing that is really special according to truth is if you marry according to obedience to God, which obviously no one else is doing. But be sure if you are doing things like everyone else, your love for them is no different than a pig’s lust for slop. (Only the wisdom of God, working in spite of man, makes any marriages worth anything to God's own parable...)

 

Shallow Seductresses

Non-exclusive lust is SHALLOW Lust

 

Biblical Stories Of Shallowness

 

Michal Loved David (then Phaltial easily loved her) then despised David

 

>scrip

Gen_39:7 – Potiphar's wife cast her eyes on Joseph, but then through him in prison!

 

Pro_5:4; Pro_6:32; Pro_7 – Seductress does not care if it kills the man she claims to “love”

 

Killing someone is not love, but ugly lust -- and you must despise its shallowness like I do

 

Do we do the same thing today? – ever heard of STDs? If you had an STD would it be loving to pass it on to someone else, esp. without telling them?

 

According to Stanford University’s Sexual Health Peer Resource Center, 1 in 4 college students have an STD.

http://www.everydayhealth.com/columns/dr-laura-berman-on-love-and-sex/stds-in-college-what-students-need-to-know/

4/14/15

 

Humanly speaking, shallow lust can be a reason to marry (Deu_21:11), but it sure is shallow and fleshly, and temporary. If you use it, you will also pay for it dearly.

 

Personal Stories / Examples of Treachery, Foolishness and Shallowness

8/23/14

 

LJS bold seductress kept trying to hug me, but then I was told they hugged others

GD girl could not even finish hitting on me before she lusted after a pic of my relative...

 

Seductresses who made lustful sentiments about me - I later saw them marry others, and I deeply took this to heart and pondered it greatly.

(btw: Should I warn their husbands what they were getting into?)

 

I took it to heart that at no time did their many seductions mean anything. Even though their actions made a pretense of conferring value, the bitter treachery was that at no time did they ever even start to actually love me, because they were capable of "getting over me" AND MARRYING OTHER MEN! Wicked treachery! (think: Michal)

 

- I knew a daughter of a remarried woman, and I watched her deeds closely and considered that she would not ensnare me, and then be like her mom...

- I saw people younger than me getting married and then getting divorced because they could not work things out...

- all of these flirts that I knew long enough, I saw them get married to other people in a few years! Glad I never took them seriously! If they can casually marry someone else one day, then I refuse to take them seriously now...

- They may have done deep damage (and I am chopping to become less vulnerable to that), but I cannot take them seriously, and I have repeatedly set all their vanity aside with great zeal, and I despise their “bait and switch” by observing their faithless lack of obsession.

- Reformed guy’s attraction to a girl did not last long before he called me again and said he had gotten engaged to someone else!

 

Learn from David's trial the pain of marrying Michal...

(and although he had polygamy back then with wise Abigale, which might have eased the pain, now it’s even more serious for men!)

 

The Point: Truth Says Knowing People is the Value that Makes You Exclusive

Hos_2:20

 

Obsession is Required For Exclusive Marriage

 

No passing interests allowed

 

You want Biblical excitement in marriage?

How about we talk about lawful obsession that cleanly drives a person to a constantly inflamed mind about you?

 

Let’s not just avoid lust in order to put out a fire, let’s avoid lust and seek exclusivity because we want a nuclear explosion!

 

We’re not avoiding lust because it is too hot, but we despise it because it is too shallow and cold…

 

The shallowness of lust is boring – its lawful obsession that actually tantalizing and exciting with enduring heart-pounding thrills for the rest of your life

 

Great marriage is something you can basically worship without restrictions…  Because in as much as you are obsessed over great marriage, you are our obsessing over marrying God…

(of course the parable must submit to the point, and Abraham offered up Isaac on the altar, but hopefully get my point…)

 

Infinite Love means you actually acknowledge who someone really is, and you constantly refuse to ever believe anything false about them.

 

Real love has the profound effect of accurately obsessing over someone's truest value.

 

Deep Love = Isaac

 

What is This “Obsession” Then?

·         Clean obedience faith & favor obsession

·         I am zealous to tear down and completely overthrow everything that is not passionately obsessing over the Words of God...

 

Flesh vs. Faith -- The Temporary and Permanent Obsessions of those who loose and Those who win

Most people are extremely cheap and shallow in their romantic life

A few desparate people obsess based on hyped up lust and religious spirits, and other shallow people think this is unhealthy, therefore obsession seems more like a sickness than an ideal to most people.

Wether they are cheap or wether they obsess, despising ultimately takes over in most cases, and virtually everyone ends up apathetic and worthless in the end because flesh eventually gives up, and cannot endure in hope and faithfulness.

Only Biblical people who endure have a never-ending obsession like Song of Songs...

Obsession for the sake of truth is based on the Words of God and the ambition for greatness and the hope of winning by faith... Zealous fireballs of truth can win eternally because they are attracted and attched to something eternal and are driven with obsession over marrying God in their spouse...

 

Obsession Marks Exclusivity

 

Defining Definitions

·         “Obsession” is not “Drunkenness”!

·         In this case, we are talking about the truest stuff, much like the Bible often makes it a point to talk about the truest “love”

 

Some people need to just get married by faith (knowing perfectly that prophecy works), but for tested exclusivity, "obsession" is needed.

 

We should all know that you are supposed to Love God more than your spouse, but nevertheless, you should obsess over them in a similar reflection as a convincing picture of Anointed One with His Assembly. Ask yourself: How zealous and constantly earnest should I be in prayer?

 

Isaac obsessed over Rebecca - play/jumping after many years!

Jacob obsessed over Rachel - waited 7 years by faith with still being motivated

Leah obsessed over Jacob and became a major matriarch of monotheism!

Song of Songs is unending in mutual fiery hot obsession, and they never run out, but keep going passed the end of the book as strong and passionate as the beginning...

 

Tobit obsessed over his Sarah by faith before he met her -- we sill not sit to eat until we get this settled

 

Ruth made a very jaw-dropping move on Boaz, and Boaz obsessed to take care of things asap... Naomi, being so wise, knew that Ruth's blessed faith would obsess Boaz to deal with it that day, and Ruth could sit still and wait on her extremist deed to burn and ultimately accomplish putting them in the great lineage of Anointed One!

> I love the story of Ruth because it is one of the few places were a woman gets to 'display' obsession before marriage.

 

I have dealt with a lot of seductresses, harlots, and generally complacent women in my life, and I have always worked hard in logos to swiftly minimize their flirtations and seductions because I saw right through them that they were not obsessive now, nor would they by any means continue in some faithful obsession if they were ever married.

 

Seduction Lust vs. Obsession

Crushes and infatuations come and go in unfaithful people, but the obsessions of exclusivity are based on an addictive grip that gives over every honorable reason to tell someone "till death do us part".

 

At best, lust (esp. incl. premarital polygamy) is about meeting your own personal needs, but even then it is not really about who they are and their special qualities, but about how much in need you are... this is NOT infinitely loving someone and who they really are. Exclusivity now reserves you to truly and infinitely love someone later in enduring unchangeable faithfulness later.

 

Personal Note: The seductresses never knew who I was or shared what spiritual thing I knew and was defined by.

 

The first part of exclusivity includes completely despising cheap lust, and being completely unpersuaded by it. (non-commitment)

The second part is infinitely obsessing over the truest essence of who someone really is.

Exclusivity later makes a life-long obsessive compulsion over the reality of someone, leaving you totally unable to stomach the idea of moving on to someone else if this person rejects you.

 

Remember how faithful (and obsessive) God is toward unfaithful Israel?

‘I remember the kindness of your youth’

‘when you danced going out of Egypt...’

Rev: remember your first love!

 

God demands perfect, infinite, obsessive love for all our relationships.

 

Tobit’s Obsession

 

Tob_6:9-17

Tob_7:1

Tob_8:1

 

Tobit tells you the answer to obsession. Without it, you should not take any of your own attractions seriously, because it is only pre-made adultery against someone else’s spouse!

If you valiantly fight against your own soul's blindness with fervent truth, then you can also sift through the level of potential exclusive obsession in others, and ultimately defeat all temptations to think defilement by minimizing all your own attractions and any of their seductions.

 

It may feel like "playing hard to get", but it is actually a serious obsession over divinity that is not at all "non-romantic", but insists on something much deeper and obsessively burning than the quick lusts of this world.

 

Typically you will be sifting through shallowness, but ultimately you should be looking for a Tobit-like / Rachel-like confirmation before you go taking any passions very seriously.

 

Obsession of Boaz

Cannot do anything but seal up and affirm God's Words... he will not rest until the matter is solved

 

Notice: Boaz praised Ruth for coming under God’s wing, and she later said she should come under Boaz’ wing! – do you see a divine parallel here?

 

So I see… storing up that monotheistic vocabulary and then wisely reusing it again later to get yourself in the great lineage of Anointed One…. I see how these things work!

 

Notice that her words to Boaz are in direct contrast to flirting with the young and or rich men…

 

"I am not TRULY tempted because of how special and appealing they are, but because of how much in need I am."

That only changes when you have a parable matchup. You are only uncontrollably obsessed in THEIR specialness (surpassing your own ego-centric selfishness) when their greatness and superlative virtue and character fit you into prophetic greatness and complete your obedience as God's parable - physically and spiritually.

When their sizzling holiness and righteous mindfulness and your great calling make a heart-striking prophecy of Jesus and the church, only then do you truly love them because of obsessing over their appealing virtues that define who they are.

David wisely took Abigale and Isaac rejoiced over Rebecca – who’s virtue divinely chose her for Isaac- and Tobit clung to the prophetic words saving His Sarah.

 

 it truly fits you and them into prophetic Adam and Eves, and Jesus and great church-bride!

 

The Bible is the Real Source of Obsessing Romance

I am not motivated at all by Disney or any other shallow and cheapening dirty romance Movie I used to watch… The Bible is the most exciting and motivating romance answer in all of existence!

Don’t give me that harlot Disney Jazmine touting all her fornication for all men to see! Worthless and dirty, and worst of all, PRIDEFUL self-defending self-valuing loose and foolish beast-like fluff acting like an animal or a cow touting its gender organs in plain daylight, making them as worthless as they can be!

 If I were going to marry, tell me where that provocative hidden Rebecca is with her tantalizing beauty behind her enticing modest veil with clean gentle virtues powerfully shinning and preaching into all the earth, making any sensible man amazed by her humble amazingness! – Listen! That modest “veil” shines forth more excellent virgin beauty than when you fornicate and defile all men with your face!

It has been said that a real professional never has to say so. Much more rather, any real female of value and integrity does not have to persuade men to hurry to urgently marry them!

>> “Sit still” said Naomi. That monotheistic man can’t help to make this happen after seeing Ruth’s strong virtue!

 

Getting Exclusive!

Pending…

Accept their Restoration By Faith?

How Can a Woman Be 'Divine' in Marriage if She Represents The Assembly?

The Mightiness of Celibacy

 

Your God Will Be Your Husband

- this is proof that God does not want shallow and non-romantic celibates... He made you to be passionate, and He idealizes you as always needing marriage!

- romantic exclusivity toward God as your spouse leaves you open to exclusivity to a physical husband too -- because the man falls right in line with the God you worship and adore while waiting.

- Hope is bullet proof (it does not disappoint) -- If you wait 'too long' in celibacy, then 'the time will stand upon itself', and the physical man who comes will actually be Jesus Himself... Then 'your God will be your husband' indeed!

 

Unfaithful Breaches Before Marriage Sets You Up for Intolerable Adulteries After Marriage

Why exclusivity is so important

4/3/15

One BIG problem / indicator of evil is that if you don't find exclusivity / kill non-marital attractions now, then you are liable to still be breaching with adulteries after marriage! -- if marriage does not end all temptations and put an end to all "flashbacks" & memories & heal all trauma, it is not tolerable to endure the trouble!

 

Although Hosea was great beyond this world, Gomer was not (at least at first?)

 

Although there is much less room for this in the new covenant, some are still called to save a weak spouse and endure trials by marriage & hurt where they should live, and bear the shame of others until their less-than-glorious bond is finally redeemed for virtue.

 

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Josiahs’ Particular Parable of Exclusivity

A Particular Parable of Extreme Exclusivity That Can Partly Teach The Nations

The Meaning of A Particular Calling of the Most Extreme Exclusivity

 

Maybe parts of my Extreme exclusivity extend and apply into some general values that are good for all to consider...

I Always Remember Lot Syndrome

If you could consider other possibilities if you had more options then don't consider the desparate one at all in the meantime...

 

Eph_4:13 – Each one has special gifts of favor, until we all get perfect in all favor

 

Profound Personal Spiritual Note: It is not right that I should at any time receive a woman who still has the capacity to be attracted to other men after meeting me (and having an opportunity to know who I am). If I do not infinitely surpass, disable, ruin ("for anything less"), and spoil them for all other romantic capacities and considerations, ambitions, and possibilities, then there is no point to making considerations.

- Not everyone is called to insist on this, especially to this degree, but I have to be, which is a lot of why I can most potently proclaim exclusivity!

- not for the sake of bragging or self-conceit, but for the purpose of fulfilling a calling and picture

- I don't say this because I think I am that attractive, but because I know God could definitely find someone who somehow just so happened to have the right settings (from birth or rebirth) to think everything was fully perfect -- so that they might fulfill that necessary correlating parable / story.

- I dare not say any of these things to provoke lust, I definitely DO NOT want to "suggest the idea", but rather, since this standard is very unlikely, and could even be considered basically impossible, I say these things to effectively dismiss and minimize any partial temptations that may ever arise, so that people may be at peace knowing the significance, definitions, and boundaries.

- if anyone ever thought they were doing me a favor by overlooking deficiencies, they would not be.

- am not called to not be known, but to be known

- some people can work on saving their spouses into exclusivity after marriage as Hosea did with Gomer and even as great Leah did with great Jacob, but I cannot.

- I have more gender trials than I can bear without marriage; I have no use for more gender trials after marriage...

- I am hopeful and ambitious to use the particular leverage of my calling to exhort and prepare all people to exclusivity, and eventually multiply marital bliss and its sweet song on the earth till all justice and truth has come and been established.

 

Women Absolutely Must Have Monogamy, Even More Than Men

Monogamy is even more important and universally required for women. Although it could be understood why a man may struggle with considering more than one woman (since polygamy was once allowed, and that capacity is still there), yet it has never been tolerable for women to have multiple men in her heart.

 

(They may say that a man fell to adultery, but if a woman is unfaithful, they may say she choose to do that.)

 

The Point: the Reward of Exclusivity is Greatness and Exaltation and Blessed Peace

 

If you get exclusivity, then you are "as one who finds peace" (son 8)

 

Cross ref: 2Pe_3:14 CAB  Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot or blemish;

 

 

Healed Hymen

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Parabolic Repentance

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Marital Redemption After Defilement – From Old Covenant to New Covenant

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Horizontal Parabolic Forgiveness – The Only Way to Get Horizontal Forgiveness When You Have Been Ordained From The Beginning

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Restoration Must Be Deep

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Obsession -- Proof!!

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Josiahs’ Particular Parable of Exclusivity

 

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Defining Fornication

12/14/17

 

 

It is assumed that Monotheists Would Not Fornicate, But marry

12/14/17

 

Deu_21:11 WEB  and see among the captives a beautiful woman, and you have a desire to her, and would take her to you as wife;

Deu_21:11 LB  and if you should see [ἴδῃς] among the spoil a woman *beautiful in countenance [* καλὴν τῷ εἴδει – lit. good in perceptionἴδει), (related to “see” – ἴδῃς) – this is the way to describe a visually attractive person who is “good to look at”], and should desire [ἐνθυμηθῇς – lit. (get) heated up/ (start) breathing hard inside (fig. in your deeper passions and thoughts) (for)] her, and take [λάβῃς] her *to yourself for a wife [* σαυτῷ γυναῖκα],

>>>> Get from DAR!

 

 

 

Homosexuality

Other dates (including ~2008-2009); early 2017 (recompiled); 5/7/17; 8/22/17; 1/10/18

>> get details from SinL > SRP

 

Questions:

Where do you stand on the issues of homosexuality, homosexual marriage, and ordaining homosexuals?

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Soft Men Go to Hell

9/6/20-9/7/20

 

~1Co_6: teaches that both homosexuals as well as “soft” men go to hell

 

Men Hate

 

There is a good reason REAL men hate these things.

There are good reasons our cultures have felt attracted to and even relieved by things like “the Duck Dynasty”

This is NOT an endorsement but simply evidence that our own cultures testify against themselves when even they indirectly admit that they are tired and exhausted from the constant effeminizing toxins that they have overdosed on and sickened themselves from…

 

The evil behind European countries has poisoned the hearts of nearly everyone immersed in its culture to emasculate men and idealize Ken.

 

Ken’s cheesy smile and refine delicacy and soft complacency is at war with the passionate warrior-man which God made from the beginning.

 

No wonder women are door knobs and they best they want to do is “cuddle”.

They have no love for honor or value toward the reality of the real value and potency of men.

No wonder their view of romance is so evil and they idealize love and romance as a man “selflessly loving them” and getting nothing out of it, and holding their hands and cuddling without any real love or acknowledgement for who a man is and what is the real romance of his actual nature…

 

Real love is a cherishing of someone’s real value.

Real love by its very definition is not ego-centric.

Real and serious love is not Erros, like the Socrates and Greek Philosophers praised, but Agape like the Apostles praised.

 

Real faithful love recognizes and cherishes and honors the real potency and the real value of who someone is

 

Selfless Love that Waits

 

Real and selfless love from men includes

·         Jacob waiting for Rachel

·         Joseph leading about Marry

 

They were in separation of betrothal.

The selfless love of the Bible does not include stirring up love before it is ready for the marriage bed.

This truth is also reinforced by Family purity after marriage.

Example include a woman’s monthly separation of blood flow as well as the blood flow after child birth.

When it comes to selfless love the Bible does not take the side of the evil world with its perverted ideals of men pretending to be soft in order to do physical romance without the marriage bed during times of sickness and strain, but much rather instead the Bible takes the side of real men who are careful and reverent and clean and devoted to truth by separating during seasons where the bed is not available.

 

Don’t awaken Love out of season.

Separate during times of womanly uterine bleeding.

 

For a man to fast it defaults to 3 days in which a man is considered to have sacrificed being with a woman in order to sanctify his seed as a special fast and a holy-ified refilled man unto spiritual service to appear before God in a special way.

 

It is not fit for a man to engage in romance and the Biblical “expectation” praised in Song of Songs unless fulfillment is available the same day.

Contradicting this praises the evil catastrophe of nocturnal emission which defile a woman the same way uterine blood defiles a man.

 

Praising romance without the marriage is evil because it praises the hatred and dishonor of the male species and promotes and causes nocturnal accidents and intentional chooses the very defilement which the Law and Jews in general go to such great lengths to avoid.

 

Jacob waited 7 years for Rachel and they “seemed like nothing to him because of his love for her”

Very selfless and very challenging and quite appealing romance!

Jacob did not wait and date

They were separate.

God is a real man who raised up a “baby girl” to marry -- in His parable as he tells it.

In Jacob’s case it is simple math: 13 or 14 - 7 = 6 or 7

Rachel was evidently approximately 6 or 7 years old

The ancients tried to get their women married off as early as they could be attractive (Songs 8) and have babies.

Laban would not be aiming for 16 (that’s pushing the lateness of the boundaries!)

Laban was almost certainly aiming for about 12 to 13 years of age -- we have got to think and conclude this by default unless indicated otherwise.

Laban was not about to let a good marriage deal pass him by.

See how eager Laban was to marry of Leah before she got too old?

See how Saul and many others did not wait long to marry off their daughters? -- Even though that meant that Saul’s previous daughter did not get to be married to David as Saul had wished.

They would rather give their daughters off in an early and timely way rather than risking waiting for the “best man”.

Paul is a faithful monotheist and ancient moral thinker and is totally against inappropriately postponing marriage after a girl reaches her “acme” in 1Co_7.

Waiting “beyond the time” is strictly disapproved, especially for girls, by many ancient cultures including the Bible.

 

We don’t think of marrying “girls” in our cultures, but in the Bible that is exactly the type of man God describes Himself to be.

>>Scrip

 

Child-molesting is always wrong.

Child-marriage is inappropriate.

We have generally been conditioned to avoid both of these problems altogether in our cultures by only marrying “consenting adults”.

Ancient cultures knew that child marriage was inappropriate, but instead of avoiding it altogether they simply waited until they were grown after betrothing them.

In the Bible, they still did not want to marry children, but that did not stop them from arranging their marriages in the meantime.

So they did not want to marry children, but they betrothed them and prepared for marriage in the meantime.

This waiting for children while establishing their spouses and planning their marriage was especially true for girls being married by men, and those men might be just about any and every age (as with Jacob being MUCH older than Rachel), but it also happened for sons married to older widows as in the case of Tamar with Juda’s sons.

 

Jacob was being a real man like God by waiting years for his “girl” to grow up and be ready for marriage, and that love is a real virtue admired throughout the Bible.

Jacob waited appropriately for Rachel because there is a mechanism in men to be able to wait for a girl to grow up first before activating any lust for the marriage bed “before the time” (see: Son_2:7; 3:5; 8:4).

 

When the time was up Jacob was quite bluntly and unapologetically ready for action.

Jacob had potency and was not about to play around with foolish perversion and call it love or romance.

 

 

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10/28/17

one of the insane confusions within the homosexual movement is comparing everyone as if they were all fornicators being compared with homosexuals, and like Burger King said, assuming that we are all the same inside.

 

how are homosexuals comparable with fornicators?

if all people fornicate and give themselves to the murderous desire of dirtiness and perversion, then yes there is a lot of similarities between fornicators and homosexuals.

 

... Etc, etc....

 

 

and while homosexuals might be comparable indeed with fornicators to a certain degree, they are not at all comparable with a virgin or one who has chosen to be celibate for God's Kingdom, nor is homosexuality even at all comparable with those who wait until they are lawfully married to be with someone.

 

those who sin in complete and utter wickedness and hate God and hate humanity and hate sexuality are not at all the same inside in their hateful heart with someone who is clean and loving and gentle and pure and true and heart by the truth of the good announcement and the love of the real God.

 

 

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homosexual marriage?

9/30/17-9/30/17

 

"homosexual marriage" is essentially a legal fiction as well as a moral oxymoron.

 

as far as the legal system goes, you can potentially do just about anything you want to completely confused and empty whatever sacred and important words you want and make them completely worthless and useless.

 

morally speaking, it is impossible to talk about homosexual marriage as if it were a reality, because for example, the word marriage is supposed to refer to "a joining".

at the beginning the Creator made them male and female and based on this reality the to become into one Flesh.

since homosexuals are not even candidates for becoming into one flesh, all they can do in this regard is commit single fornication.

homosexuals cannot go into one flesh, they can only send into their own flesh and nothing of their sin will make them into one flesh to have a basis to celebrate a marriage upon.

if nothing was joined, then why do you hypocritically pretend to celebrate a joining with a marriage when two people are still two separate individuals?

 

homosexuals are only trying to profane what is Holy and drag down every hope of something good and righteous being displayed and remembered and considered in the Earth.

marriage is a picture of Jesus and his church.

people hate Jesus and they want to oppose every reminder and representative picture of his truth that they possibly can.

 

we know that marriage is supposed to be holy, and that is why fornicating homosexuals want to play games and pretend like their sin is actually good, when we all know that it is perverted and dirty and disgusting and evil and bad.

 

...

 

even in fornicating, there is a type of joining between a man and a woman, even though it is very defiled (as described in 1st Corinthians 6).

with homosexuality there is not even the potential to join, but just the potential to defile and sin into one's own body.

it is many times more vein and insane to celebrate homosexuals single fornication that doesn't even join them with a marriage that never even happened in any real sense while homosexuals committed single fornication.

 

the whole point of using special words such as marriage instead of legal unions is to imply that there is something more than a legal Union that is moral and beautiful or at least significant and possibly good.

it is utter foolishness to take a legal Union of two single fornicating homosexuals and lie and mislead people to believe that an actual joining has happened.

 

The whole point of calling something “marriage” is originally to distinguish it from immoral and dirty lust -- of all kinds, therefore it is utter foolishness to take one of the dirtiest crimes of sexual hatred and try to call the very filth of sin to be “marriage”. -- that is against the whole point of making a moral distinction.

If you want to fornicate, then you should at least be honest and say that you hate God and Jesus and that you want to sin with the devil and destroy the whole human race… but you lie and play games and pretend that you are peaceable with the Creator Whom you overtly defy and contradict with homosexuality.

 

...

 

when we say that homosexuals do not join, we need to be careful because mini will confuse joining with "bonding".

 

Moral joining is when two people go into one Flash and they pertain to each other morally so that it is not fornication for them to be together.

"Bonding" is when two people share emotional experiences that make them cherish being around each other.

homosexuals can certainly Bond emotionally so that they deeply desire to be around each other, but they are incapable of joining into one flesh so that they belong to each other sexually.

thanks to garbage like Disney and Romanticism in general, virtually everyone asociates marriage with Romanticism and emotional bonding...

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8/21/17

there is nothing virtuous about trying to force other people to tolerate your character flaws.

chastity is still a real virtue, no matter how ignored or in danger of extinction it may be.

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Intro

Basically, we all know that homosexuality is wrong.

We all know that it is dirty, and evil, and against nature, and against the Bible.

When people pretend like this is “unclear”, they are almost always just playing fool-hearty games.

>> Sync: FAQ | Pur

 

Homosexuality is a grievous sin that will condemn a person to hell. When churches participate in it, it is a sign of the coming of the lawless Antichrist (see 2Th_2:8, where it speaks of the “Lawless One”).

The Bible clearly says that homosexuality is a sin worthy of death: Lev_18:22, Lev_18:29-30; Lev_20:13; Rom_1:26-27, 32 (also see Gen_19:5; Lev_18:22, 27-28; Deut_23:17-18; Jdg_19:22; 1Cor_6:9-10; 1Tim_1:10; Jud_1:7). God Himself will enforce this just death penalty eternally at the judgment, so we had better plead with all sinners now out of Love, including homosexuals, to spare themselves from the wrath that is to come (Mat_3:7; Luk_3:7; Act_2:40, 43; 1Thes_1:10; 2:16; Rev_6:17; 11:18).

May all of those inside and outside the church in sexual sin repent quickly while there is still time for salvation.

 

Lev_18:22 WEB  " 'You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestable.

Lev_18:22 LB  And you shall not lie with a man as with a woman, for it is an abomination.

Lev_18:22  καὶ μετὰ ἄρσενος οὐ κοιμηθήσῃ κοίτην γυναικός· βδέλυγμα γάρ ἐστιν.

>> TSK

 

Jesus Condemned The Very Foundation of Homosexuality

2/12/15; 5/7/17

Jesus excluded homosexuality when He limited marriage to only include one male and one female for life: mat19/Mark10

Jesus condemned anyone who violated this one flesh, by calling remarriage adultery.

Since lawful marriage can only include a male and a female, all sexual activity outside of this is fornication. Jesus condemned fornication. (Mat_15:, etc.)

Homosexuality is called an abomination and 'unclean'? « look this up!!!!

Jesus condemned everything that was unclean  (Mat_15:, etc.)

Homosexuality is lust. Jesus condemned lust.  (Mat_15:, etc.)

Jesus said the Pharisees should have believed Moses. Moses condemned homosexuality.

Jesus said not one iota or keria would by any mans falls from the law. -- that shows us that even the particles that make up the commands against homosexuality will continue longer than the earth.

Jesus always went on to always increase the moral restrictions of His commands

Jesus said the Scriptures could not be broken...

The writings of Moses are the very foundation of the Jewish Scriptures.

By approving of every particle of every Scripture, emphatically including every particle of every word of the law of Moses, this obviously includes the law's condemnation of homosexuality.

Jesus never revised or changed anything to allow sexual murder, which God hates.

Jesus’ purity standards are STRICTER not looser than what Moses legislated by God.

Jesus approved of the apostles and specifically sent them to teach, and Jesus particularly sent Paul to teach the sexually immoral gentiles (nations, non-Jews) God’s monotheistic rules, and Paul explicitly condemned homosexuality by even using the main words for it.

 

People who act like Jesus was not against homosexuality are just playing fool-heary games.

They hate Jesus and are just looking for a way to boast in worshiping satan.

> include: two men will be in one bed

 

>> slander against Jon & Jesus

 

Universal Condemnation of Homosexuality

2/13/15-2/14/15

Homosexuality has been consistently and universally condemned throughout all monotheism as sexual immorality, from the times of Adam and Eve, then threw Moses, and spanning all the way through the entire New Testament, the Apostles, and early church. There has never been even a slight exception to condemning homosexuality throughout all monotheistic history.

Jesus did not change the trajectory of sexual purity for God-fearers, except that He only heightened the absolute demand self-denial and absolute abstinence toward all lust and sexual sins.

 

Jesus did not change God's feelings toward homosexuality or even attempt at hinting anything contrary to the love of good and the hate of evil.

 

Imagined “Silence” Does Not Override Jesus’ Jewishness and Strict Commitment to the Law

Other dates; 5/7/17

An argument from silence is an illogical and irrational, foolish game.

We do not have to "prove" that Jesus was against homosexuality since is goes without saying that Jesus was a Jew, and He wholeheartedly affirmed the divinity of the whole law of Moses, which condemns homosexuality.

 

If anyone wants to be a churchy homosexual activist, they would have to prove that Jesus was not a Jewish Rabbi, nor was He Jewish by faith, nor did He worship the One same God as Moses.

 

No Games

Other dates; 5/7/17

No need to play games. Just be honest. If you support homosexuality we all know you hate Jesus and the rest of the Bible.

 

Homo Activism

All our rightousness/"justice" are as filthy rags

 

You mindlessly claim that it iss a justice issue, but God calls your so called "justice" filthy rags. What you think of as "justice" is more disgusting than used toilet paper...

 

 

David and Jonathan -- Don’t Ignore the Obvious

 

Only free-thinkers, that is, liberal, non-serious clowns, feel free and open enough to have no problem with insanity and shameful mindlessness.

 

Serious people have to acknowledge that before David, the Law condemned homosexuality and afterward Jesus and Paul opposed all perversions of sexuality, specifically including homosexuality.

 

Homosexuality is an Eros Thing Praised in Greek Philosophy

5/7/17

 

See: Symposium

 

Greek Philosophy is condemned in the Bible, esp. 1Co_2:, etc. just as homosexuality is condemned.

 

 

Agape vs. Erotic

>> pervo-activists use the word “erotic”, but the Scriptures use Agape

 

Although Agape can be used to refer to romance, it does not have that implication in and of itself like Eros does.

 

If the Scriptures wanted to describe an especially erotic lust sin between two fallen people, then they could have used Eros instead of Agape.

 

Remember, it was the pagans who championed the lust of Eros, and it is the Bible which championed Agape, and it championed Agape so much that Eros didn’t even make it in the New Testament! -- these pervo-activists (just like all shallow religious people) harp on the shallowness and lust of Eros and try to raise it up to a deep and noble status, just like hypocritical the filthy anti-Biblical Greek Philosophers did and Disney does now.

 

 

 

Exaggerating Something that Doesn’t Existent

5/7/17

 

“You decide: Were Jonathan and David merely good friends (experiencing brotherly love), or was there a deeper (romantic) level to their relationship?”

http://wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/david_jonathan.html

5/7/17

 

“Now, imagine if this story had been about Jonathan and a woman. Suppose the author had written that “Jonathan’s soul was bound to Mirriam, and Jonathan loved her as his own soul.” And suppose that upon meeting Mirriam for the first time, Jonathan immediately gave her all his most precious possessions. (The armor and weapons of a prince were important symbols of his power and status.) If 1Sa_18:1-4 were about Jonathan’s first encounter with a woman, theologians everywhere would be writing about this as one of the greatest love stories of all time. The story of Jonathan and his love would be the source of dozens of Hollywood films. But because the object of Jonathan’s affection is a man, our cultural prejudice kicks in and we insist (notwithstanding the biblical evidence) that this could not have been more than deep friendship.

 

This “culturally correct” reading will not withstand scrutiny. It asks us to put an interpretation on the story that is completely at odds with our own experience of human behavior.”

http://wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/biblical_evidence/david_jonathan.html

5/7/17

 

 

 LEV_18:21 " `Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molech, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the LORD.

 

    LEV_18:22 " `Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

 

    LEV_18:23 " `Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.

 

    LEV_18:24 " `Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. [25] Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. [26] But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the aliens living among you must not do any of these detestable things, [27] for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled. [28] And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you.

 

    LEV_18:29 " `Everyone who does any of these detestable things--such persons must be cut off from their people. [30] Keep my requirements and do not follow any of the detestable customs that were practiced before you came and do not defile yourselves with them. I am the LORD your God.' "

 

LEV_20:13 " `If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

 

 

 

 

Men Can Be Defiled

4/9/17; 5/4/25

 

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Lev_18:24 LB  ‘Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for in all these things the nations are defiled, which I drove out before you,

Lev_18:24  Μὴ μιαίνεσθε ἐν πᾶσιν τούτοις· ἐν πᾶσι γὰρ τούτοις ἐμιάνθησαν τὰ ἔθνη, ἃ ἐγὼ ἐξαποστέλλω πρὸ προσώπου ὑμῶν,

>> other refs

 

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Lev_18:24 ‘Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for in all these things the nations are defiled, which I drove out before you,

Lev_18:24  Μὴ μιαίνεσθε ἐν πᾶσιν τούτοις· ἐν πᾶσι γὰρ τούτοις ἐμιάνθησαν τὰ ἔθνη, ἃ ἐγὼ ἐξαποστέλλω πρὸ προσώπου ὑμῶν,

Lev_18:25 WEB  The land was defiled: therefore I punished its iniquity, and the land vomited out her inhabitants.

Lev_18:25 and the land is polluted; and I have recompensed their iniquity to them because of it, and the land is aggrieved with them that dwell upon it.

Lev_18:25  καὶ ἐμιάνθη ἡ γῆ, καὶ ἀνταπέδωκα ἀδικίαν αὐτοῖς δι᾿ αὐτήν, καὶ προσώχθισεν ἡ γῆ τοῖς ἐγκαθημένοις ἐπ᾿ αὐτῆς.

Lev_18:26 WEB  You therefore shall keep my statutes and my ordinances, and shall not do any of these abominations; neither the native-born, nor the stranger who lives as a foreigner among you;

Lev_18:26 And you shall keep all My statutes and all My ordinances, and you shall do none of these abominations; neither the native, nor the stranger that joins himself with you:

Lev_18:26  καὶ φυλάξεσθε πάντα τὰ νόμιμά μου καὶ πάντα τὰ προστάγματά μου καὶ οὐ ποιήσετε ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν βδελυγμάτων τούτων, ὁ ἐγχώριος καὶ ὁ προσγενόμενος προσήλυτος ἐν ὑμῖν·

Lev_18:27 WEB  (for all these abominations have the men of the land done, that were before you, and the land became defiled);

Lev_18:27 (for all these abominations the men of the land did who were before you, and the land was defiled)

Lev_18:27  πάντα γὰρ τὰ βδελύγματα ταῦτα ἐποίησαν οἱ ἄνθρωποι τῆς γῆς οἱ ὄντες πρότεροι ὑμῶν, καὶ ἐμιάνθη ἡ γῆ·

Lev_18:28 WEB  that the land not vomit you out also, when you defile it, as it vomited out the nation that was before you.

Lev_18:28 and lest the land be enraged with you in your polluting it, as it was enraged with the nations before you.

Lev_18:28  καὶ ἵνα μὴ προσοχθίσῃ ὑμῖν ἡ γῆ ἐν τῷ μιαίνειν ὑμᾶς αὐτήν, ὃν τρόπον προσώχθισεν τοῖς ἔθνεσιν τοῖς πρὸ ὑμῶν.

Lev_18:29 WEB  " 'For whoever shall do any of these abominations, even the souls that do them shall be cut off from among their people.

Lev_18:29 For whosoever shall do any of these abominations, the souls that do them shall be destroyed from among their people.

Lev_18:29  ὅτι πᾶς, ὃς ἂν ποιήσῃ ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν βδελυγμάτων τούτων, ἐξολεθρευθήσονται αἱ ψυχαὶ αἱ ποιοῦσαι ἐκ τοῦ λαοῦ αὐτῶν.

Lev_18:30 WEB  Therefore you shall keep my requirements, that you do not practice any of these abominable customs, which were practiced before you, and that you do not defile yourselves with them: I am Yahweh your God.' "

Lev_18:30 And you shall keep My ordinances, that you may not do any of the abominable practices, which have taken place before your time; and you shall not be polluted in them; for I am the Lord your God.’”

Lev_18:30  καὶ φυλάξετε τὰ προστάγματά μου, ὅπως μὴ ποιήσητε ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν νομίμων τῶν ἐβδελυγμένων, ἃ γέγονεν πρὸ τοῦ ὑμᾶς, καὶ οὐ μιανθήσεσθε ἐν αὐτοῖς· ὅτι ἐγὼ κύριος ὁ θεὸς ὑμῶν.

 

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One Way to Defeat Lust:

9/6/18

 

Mat_7:20, etc. – Disney might be doing Beautiful things in the eyes of men, but God says it is not beautiful

>> Sync: Pur | LO > Fruit | SOM?

 

 

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Both Lust and inspiration overlap in the devil’s kingdom.

8/18/18

 

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Incest

8/15/18

>> MarVarieties???

 

Jos_15:16 WEB  Caleb said, "He who strikes Kiriath Sepher, and takes it, to him will I give Achsah my daughter as wife."

Jos_15:16 LB  And Caleb said, “Whosoever shall take and destroy the City of Letters, and master it, to him will I give my daughter Achsah for a wife.”

Jos_15:16  καὶ εἶπεν Χαλεβ Ὃς ἐὰν λάβῃ καὶ ἐκκόψῃ τὴν Πόλιν τῶν γραμμάτων καὶ κυριεύσῃ αὐτῆς, δώσω αὐτῷ τὴν Αχσαν θυγατέρα μου εἰς γυναῖκα.

 

Jos_15:17 WEB  Othniel the son of Kenaz, the brother of Caleb, took it: and he gave him Achsah his daughter as wife.

Jos_15:17 LB  And Othniel the son of Kenaz the brother of Caleb took it; and he gave him Achsah his daughter for a wife.

Jos_15:17  καὶ ἔλαβεν αὐτὴν Γοθονιηλ υἱὸς Κενεζ ἀδελφὸς Χαλεβ ὁ νεώτερος, καὶ ἔσωκεν αὐτῷ τὴν Αχσαν θυγατέρα αὐτοῦ αὐτῷ γυναῖκα.

 

Philip and Herodias

 

Acts: Close marriage

 

 

 

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The Myth of Immodesty Being an Issue of Causing OTHERS to Stumble

8/4/18

 

Ken Manley‎ to RESTORING BIBLICAL MARRIAGE

“This post is concerning a trend that I have seen not only in this group but on Facebook generally, that of posting suggestive pictures to try to drive home a point that is being made.

I am not questioning the sincerity of the person who posted what I consider to be semi-pornographic pictures concerning fornication or cheating. I believe their motives are honorable.
But we can make and proof a point without posting what could be considered by some "soft" porn.

We must remember that some in our group or others we are friends with on Facebook may be made to stumble over such images. Some are fighting the natural temptations that come with not being able to be with someone intimately because they are standing for their covenant marriage and living in celibacy. We cannot be found to be casting a stumbling-block before them that may catch them in a moment of weakness or cause added temptation to what they are already experiencing.

I have taken the post down. I mean no offense to the person who posted it. I believe you are sincere and are just trying to help.
But everyone please consider what I have said and the following scripture passage before posting suggestive pictures -

Corinthians I 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
Corinthians I 8:10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols;
Corinthians I 8:11 And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died?
Corinthians I 8:12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ.
Corinthians I 8:13 Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.

Thank you and God bless!”

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Revelation 3 – You are Wretched!

Rev_3:17 CAB  Because [ὅτι] you say [that (ὅτι)], 'I am wealthy [or Rich] [Πλούσιός (same as SOM, etc.)], and have become [wealthy] rich [πεπλούτηκα], and have need of nothing'--and do not [οὐκ] know [οἶδας] that you are wretched [ταλαίπωρος – i.e. wretchedly afflicted / afflicted with wretchedness], [and (καὶ)] miserable [ἐλεεινὸς – lit. mercy-able / (worthy of) mercy; i.e. pitiful/miserable], [and (καὶ)] poor [πτωχὸς], [and (καὶ)] blind [τυφλὸς], and [καὶ] naked [γυμνός],

Rev_3:17  ὅτι λέγεις ὅτι Πλούσιός εἰμι καὶ πεπλούτηκα καὶ οὐδὲν χρείαν ἔχω, καὶ οὐκ οἶδας ὅτι σὺ εἶ ὁ ταλαίπωρος καὶ ἐλεεινὸς καὶ πτωχὸς καὶ τυφλὸς καὶ γυμνός,

Rev_3:18 I counsel [συμβουλεύω] you to buy [ἀγοράσαι] from [παρ᾿ – next to] Me gold having been ·tried by fire [πεπυρωμένον ἐκ πυρὸς – i.e. fired out of fire], so that you may become rich [πλουτήσῃς (see: 1Co_4:8)]; and white robes [ἱμάτια λευκὰ], so that ·you may be clothed [περιβάλῃ], and the shame [ἡ αἰσχύνη] of your nakedness [τῆς γυμνότητός σου] may not appear [φανερωθῇ]; and ·eye salve [κολλούριον], so that you may anoint [ἔγχρισον] your eyes, ·in order that you may see [ἵνα βλέπῃς].

Rev_3:18  συμβουλεύω σοι ἀγοράσαι παρ᾿ ἐμοῦ χρυσίον πεπυρωμένον ἐκ πυρὸς ἵνα πλουτήσῃς, καὶ ἱμάτια λευκὰ ἵνα περιβάλῃ καὶ μὴ φανερωθῇ ἡ αἰσχύνη τῆς γυμνότητός σου, καὶ κολλούριον ἔγχρισον τοὺς ὀφθαλμούς σου ἵνα βλέπῃς.

Rev_3:19 ·As many as I love [warmly like] [ἐγὼ ὅσους ἐὰν φιλῶ], I rebuke [ἐλέγχω – word (into) convincing conviction] and discipline [παιδεύω]. ·Be zealous [ζήλευε] therefore [οὖν], and repent [μετανόησον].

Rev_3:19  ἐγὼ ὅσους ἐὰν φιλῶ, ἐλέγχω καὶ παιδεύω· ζήλευε οὖν καὶ μετανόησον.

>> Sync: LUX | Pur | DBC

 

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Punished by Things You Don’t Recognize

~Dec 2017 - Feb 2018; (other dates seen below); 4/16/18

TAGS: Ignorant Punishment

 

The Creator first makes you care and then punishes you by taking away what you have learned to care about.

But if you are just a dense and blind pagan, you might get shamefully punished and not know why you are made so worthless and at what time you were ruined and destroyed.

 

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Mic_1:16 WEB  Shave your heads, and cut off your hair for the children of your delight. Enlarge your baldness like the vulture; for they have gone into captivity from you!

Mic_1:16 LB  Shave your hair, and make yourself bald for your delicate children; increase your widowhood as an eagle; for your people have gone into captivity from you.

Mic_1:16  ξύρησαι καὶ κεῖραι ἐπὶ τὰ τέκνα τὰ τρυφερά σου, ἐμπλάτυνον τὴν χηρείαν σου ὡς ἀετός, ὅτι ᾐχμαλωτεύθησαν ἀπὸ σοῦ.

>> Sync: FamC | Lux | Pur > Ignorant Punishment

 

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Isa_47:1 WEB  "Come down, and sit in the dust, virgin daughter of Babylon; sit on the ground without a throne, daughter of the Chaldeans: for you shall no more be called tender and delicate.

Isa_47:1 LB  “Come down, sit on the ground, O virgin daughter of Babylon; sit on the ground, O daughter of the Chaldeans; for you shall no more be called tender and luxurious.

Isa_47:1  Κατάβηθι κάθισον ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν, παρθένος θυγάτηρ Βαβυλῶνος, εἴσελθε εἰς τὸ σκότος, θυγάτηρ Χαλδαίων, ὅτι οὐκέτι προστεθήσῃ κληθῆναι ἁπαλὴ καὶ τρυφερά.

>> virgin?????

>> commentaries??

>> Sync: LUX | Pur > Ignorant Punishment

 

Isa_47:8 WEB  "Now therefore hear this, you who are given to pleasures, who sit securely, who say in your heart, I am, and there is none else besides me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children:

Isa_47:8 LB  “But now hear these words, you luxurious one, that sits at ease, that is secure, that says in her heart, ‘I am, and there is not another; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know bereavement.’

Isa_47:8  νῦν δὲ ἄκουσον ταῦτα, ἡ τρυφερὰ ἡ καθημένη πεποιθυῖα ἡ λέγουσα ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ αὐτῆς Ἐγώ εἰμι, καὶ οὐκ ἔστιν ἑτέρα· οὐ καθιῶ χήρα οὐδὲ γνώσομαι ὀρφανείαν.

>>Scrip:

Isa_47:9 WEB  but these two things shall come to you in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood; in their full measure shall they come on you, in the multitude of your sorceries, and the great abundance of your enchantments.

Isa_47:9 But now these two things shall come upon you suddenly in one day, the loss of children and widowhood shall come suddenly upon you, for your sorcery, for the strength of your enchantments,

Isa_47:9  νῦν δὲ ἥξει ἐξαίφνης ἐπὶ σὲ τὰ δύο ταῦτα ἐν μιᾷ ἡμέρᾳ· χηρεία καὶ ἀτεκνία ἥξει ἐξαίφνης ἐπὶ σὲ ἐν τῇ φαρμακείᾳ σου ἐν τῇ ἰσχύι τῶν ἐπαοιδῶν σου σφόδρα

…..

Etc. etc.

>> Sync: LUX | Pur > Ignorant Punishment

 

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4/13/18

first like children, then potentially punish you by taking them away

 

 

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Deu_28:48 WEB  therefore you shall serve your enemies whom Yahweh shall send against you, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron on your neck, until he has destroyed you.

Deu_28:48 LB  And you shall serve your enemies, which the Lord will send forth against you, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in the desire of all things; and you shall wear upon your neck a yoke of iron until He has destroyed you.

Deu_28:48  καὶ λατρεύσεις τοῖς ἐχθροῖς σου, οὓς ἐπαποστελεῖ κύριος ἐπὶ σέ, ἐν λιμῷ καὶ ἐν δίψει καὶ ἐν γυμνότητι καὶ ἐν ἐκλείψει πάντων· καὶ ἐπιθήσει κλοιὸν σιδηροῦν ἐπὶ τὸν τράχηλόν σου, ἕως ἂν ἐξολεθρεύσῃ σε.

>> Sync: BLEP  > MAEb | Pur

 

God may punish you with shame / immorality / degeneration even when you don't recognize it...... !

 

First adopt God's values of what is shameful, and then he may even use it to punish you...

 

Deu_28: There you will serve Other gods

Deu_28:64

>> TSK

 

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The Doctrine of Defilement

1/10/18

 

Deu_23:17-18

Holy used as profane: Deu_23:17

 

 

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Defining Fornication

11/11/17

 

Why is fornication wrong?

Defining improving that fornication is a sin.

 

We are used to thinking of crimes in terms of damage that it causes to other people.

We think that if we're not hurting no one then it's not Criminal.

But this hypocritically ignores one infinitely big factor - the most important factor of all is that sin is done primarily against God and the people that get hurt on Earth, in an important sense, are merely a reminder and a representative sample and is social accountability that such Evils are wrong.

 

When David sinned in both murder and adultery he said 'against you, and you alone have I Sinned...' this is a very ironic and challenging claim for David to make after having so personally "Sinned against Uriah"....

But we see that fornication is actually a sin of murdering sexuality which God has created.

 

In Deuteronomy 22, rape-fornication is directly compared with murdering someone.

And even when the woman is a willing participant in this murder, it is still said that she has been 'pressed down' in the same sort of murder that happened during rape.

 

It is high time we stop the foolishness and wicked hiphopcrisy of ignoring the most obvious factor of sinning against God, who hates fornication and hates and condemns the murder of the precious sexuality which he created in human bodies.

Fornication is wrong because fornication is murdering sexuality, whether you murder someone else in rape, or by not covering your body sufficiently to hide your sexual features, or even if it is the gross sin of suicidally murdering your own sexuality, which is still hateful murder in God's book, even if you do it to your own body which does not belong to you.

 

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Tracts:

http://www.coxtracts.com/family/

 

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How to do Marriage Right

9/15/17

 

...

Make sure your actions right now (even if you are single) are consistent with being a proverbs 31 woman (so you'll be safe if you get married)

Always be sweet, and never bitter

Always loose the heavy yokes, never be a heavy yoke, as Sir says...

 

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Fornication Marriage

6/30/17

>> where is the main teaching for this?

 

 

Let non of you be a fornicater as Essau…

 

ES: Baal Worship at Peor

Num_25:1 WEB  Israel abode in Shittim; and the people began to play the prostitute with the daughters of Moab:

Num_25:1 LB  Worship of Baal of Peor And Israel sojourned in Acacia Grove, and the people profaned themselves by committing harlotry with the daughters of Moab.

Num_25:1  Καὶ κατέλυσεν Ισραηλ ἐν Σαττιν· καὶ ἐβεβηλώθη ὁ λαὸς ἐκπορνεῦσαι εἰς τὰς θυγατέρας Μωαβ .

Num_25:2 WEB  for they called the people to the sacrifices of their gods; and the people ate, and bowed down to their gods.

Num_25:2 And they called them to the sacrifices of their idols; and the people ate of their sacrifices, and worshipped their idols.

Num_25:2  καὶ ἐκάλεσαν αὐτοὺς ἐπὶ ταῖς θυσίαις τῶν εἰδώλων αὐτῶν, καὶ ἔφαγεν ὁ λαὸς τῶν θυσιῶν αὐτῶν καὶ προσεκύνησαν τοῖς εἰδώλοις αὐτῶν.

Num_25:3 WEB  Israel joined himself to Baal Peor: and the anger of Yahweh was kindled against Israel.

Num_25:3 And Israel consecrated themselves to Baal of Peor; and the Lord was very angry with Israel.

Num_25:3  καὶ ἐτελέσθη Ισραηλ τῷ Βεελφεγωρ· καὶ ὠργίσθη θυμῷ κύριος τῷ Ισραηλ.

 

Num_25:14 WEB  Now the name of the man of Israel that was slain, who was slain with the Midianite woman, was Zimri, the son of Salu, a prince of a fathers' house among the Simeonites.

Num_25:14 LB  Now the name of the smitten Israelite man, who was smitten with the Midianite woman, was Zambri son of Salmon, prince of a house of the tribe of Simeon.

Num_25:14  τὸ δὲ ὄνομα τοῦ ἀνθρώπου τοῦ Ισραηλίτου τοῦ πεπληγότος, ὃς ἐπλήγη μετὰ τῆς Μαδιανίτιδος, Ζαμβρι υἱὸς Σαλω ἄρχων οἴκου πατριᾶς τῶν Συμεων·

Num_25:15 WEB  The name of the Midianite woman who was slain was Cozbi, the daughter of Zur; he was head of the people of a fathers' house in Midian.

Num_25:15 And the name of the Midianite woman who was smitten, was Cozbi, daughter of Zur, a prince of the nation of Hommoth: it is a chief house among the people of Midian.

Num_25:15  καὶ ὄνομα τῇ γυναικὶ τῇ Μαδιανίτιδι τῇ πεπληγυίᾳ Χασβι θυγάτηρ Σουρ ἄρχοντος ἔθνους Ομμωθ, οἴκου πατριᾶς ἐστιν τῶν Μαδιαν.

Num_25:16 WEB  Yahweh spoke to Moses, saying,

Num_25:16 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “Speak to the children of Israel, saying,

Num_25:16  Καὶ ἐλάλησεν κύριος πρὸς Μωυσῆν λέγων Λάλησον τοῖς υἱοῖς Ισραηλ λέγων

Num_25:17 WEB  Harass the Midianites, and strike them;

Num_25:17 ‘Harass the Midianites as enemies, and strike them,

Num_25:17  Ἐχθραίνετε τοῖς Μαδιηναίοις καὶ πατάξατε αὐτούς,

Num_25:18 WEB  for they harassed you with their wiles, with which they have deceived you in the matter of Peor, and in the matter of Cozbi, the daughter of the prince of Midian, their sister, who was slain on the day of the plague in the matter of Peor.

Num_25:18 for they are enemies to you by the treachery in which they ensnare you through Peor, and through Cozbi their sister, daughter of a prince of Midian, who was smitten in the day of the plague because of Peor.’”

Num_25:18  ὅτι ἐχθραίνουσιν αὐτοὶ ὑμῖν ἐν δολιότητι, ὅσα δολιοῦσιν ὑμᾶς διὰ Φογωρ καὶ διὰ Χασβι θυγατέρα ἄρχοντος Μαδιαν ἀδελφὴν αὐτῶν τὴν πεπληγυῖαν ἐν τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῆς πληγῆς διὰ Φογωρ.

 

 

 

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Fornication is Wrong

4/10/17-4/11/17

>> Sync: DAR | Pur

 

>> You will not prostitute your daughters

 

Lev_19:20 WEB  " 'If a man lies carnally with a woman who is a slave girl, pledged to be married to another man, and not ransomed, or given her freedom; they shall be punished. They shall not be put to death, because she was not free.

Lev_19:20 LB  And if anyone should lie carnally with a woman, and she should be a home-servant kept for a man, and she has not been ransomed, and her freedom has not been given to her, they shall be visited with punishment; but they shall not die, because she was not set at liberty.

Lev_19:20  Καὶ ἐάν τις κοιμηθῇ μετὰ γυναικὸς κοίτην σπέρματος καὶ αὐτὴ οἰκέτις διαπεφυλαγμένη ἀνθρώπῳ καὶ αὐτὴ λύτροις οὐ λελύτρωται ἢ ἐλευθερία οὐκ ἐδόθη αὐτῇ, ἐπισκοπὴ ἔσται αὐτοῖς· οὐκ ἀποθανοῦνται, ὅτι οὐκ ἀπηλευθερώθη.

Lev_19:21 WEB  He shall bring his trespass offering to Yahweh, to the door of the Tent of Meeting, even a ram for a trespass offering.

Lev_19:21 And he shall bring for his trespass to the Lord, to the door of the tabernacle of witness, a ram for a trespass-offering.

Lev_19:21  καὶ προσάξει τῆς πλημμελείας αὐτοῦ τῷ κυρίῳ παρὰ τὴν θύραν τῆς σκηνῆς τοῦ μαρτυρίου κριὸν πλημμελείας·

Lev_19:22 WEB  The priest shall make atonement for him with the ram of the trespass offering before Yahweh for his sin which he has committed: and the sin which he has committed shall be forgiven him.

Lev_19:22 And the priest shall make atonement for him with the ram of the trespass-offering, before the Lord, for the sin which he sinned; and the sin which he sinned shall be forgiven him.

Lev_19:22  καὶ ἐξιλάσεται περὶ αὐτοῦ ὁ ἱερεὺς ἐν τῷ κριῷ τῆς πλημμελείας ἔναντι κυρίου περὶ τῆς ἁμαρτίας, ἧς ἥμαρτεν, καὶ ἀφεθήσεται αὐτῷ ἡ ἁμαρτία, ἣν ἥμαρτεν.

 

Lev_19:29 WEB  " 'Don't profane your daughter, to make her a prostitute; lest the land fall to prostitution, and the land become full of wickedness.

Lev_19:29 LB  ‘You shall not profane your daughter to prostitute her; so the land shall not whore after, and the land be filled with iniquity.

Lev_19:29  οὐ βεβηλώσεις τὴν θυγατέρα σου ἐκπορνεῦσαι αὐτήν, καὶ οὐκ ἐκπορνεύσει ἡ γῆ καὶ ἡ γῆ πλησθήσεται ἀνομίας.

 

 

 

Where Prostitution Becomes Fornication

> See: DAR

>> You didn’t even take payments for your prostitution!

 

>> you will be holy because I am holy

 

>> don’t unseal the milk carton

>> baking soda and vinigar

 

 

 

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Lev_18:20 WEB  " 'You shall not lie carnally with your neighbor's wife, and defile yourself with her.

Lev_18:20 LB  And you shall not lie with your neighbor's wife, to defile yourself with her.

Lev_18:20  καὶ πρὸς τὴν γυναῖκα τοῦ πλησίον σου οὐ δώσεις κοίτην σπέρματός σου ἐκμιανθῆναι πρὸς αὐτήν.

 

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Don't Be Amazed

3/4/17; 3/14/17

 

NETS: makes the hearts of young men to fluter

rev: why did you marvel?

Marvel comics, for example (much like others), are a exact types of disobedience.

so don't heat up in lust upon includes a command to not be impressed, amazed, or marveling at the cheap and third grade pollutions of cheap and evil sin.

just because you have never tried it before, that does not mean that the forbidden fruit is really that enjoyable and exciting as it is exadurated to be, especially if you actually think and care about meaningful things that are deeper than cheap fake plastic.

 

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Stoned for Sexual Murder

~2001-2004? (original title: Stoned verse.doc); 3/6/17 (recompiled)

 

This section has BIBLE verses about Homosexuals from the law and about "betrothel=marage"-Adultry verses

 

 

Adultery

Betrothal audultry=stoned, & betrothal=marage:

 

DT 22:23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, [24] you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death--the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

 

LEV_20:10 " `If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

 

 

 

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Achieving Chastity

“Chastity” is a sizzling-ly cool and amazing word that is hardly ever used anymore because it is virtually never practiced, achieved, or even sought out anymore.  Yet, without chastity, you will never know the Clean God.

2/20/17

 

Muslim:

Instead of calling for equal cleanliness the call was for equal dirt.”

“Personal freedoms should never be taught as the freedom to challenge God's injunctions or trespass over the limits He drew.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chastity

2/20/17

 

 

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How Obedience Affects Purity

Pop: lo

 

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Dunghill

2/8/17

 

Psa_113:7 WEB  He raises up the poor out of the dust. Lifts up the needyH34 from the ash heap H4480 H830 [KJV: dunghill];

Psa_113:7 LB  who lifts up the poor from the earth, and raises up the needy from the dunghill [κοπρίας];

Psa_113:7  (112:7) ὁ ἐγείρων ἀπὸ γῆς πτωχὸν καὶ ἀπὸ κοπρίας ἀνυψῶν πένητα

 

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Sexual Sins that Send You to Hell

1/29/17

 

Fornication

Sex before marriage

Sex outside of a lawfully binding betrothal or marriage covenant

Heart-fornication

[Includes “spiritual fornication” / idolatry]

Rom_1:

 

Adultery

Sex with someone else’s spouse

By extension: sex with someone other than your spouse

Visual/heart adultery

Remarriage adultery

 

[Includes “spiritual adultery” / idolatry -- other gods after a legitimate covenant with the real God: Jas]

Rom_1:

 

Masturbation

Due22 stoned if not a virgin

1Co_7: marriage is the answer vs. Mast.

 

Homosexuality

Rom_1:

 

Touching non-Spouses in a Sexually Modifying Way

Kissing, holding hands, etc.

1Co_7:

 

Flirting

Isa_6

Pro

 

Immodesty

 

Women: Wanting men to notice / look at your beauty

Woe to those through whom the scandal comes

 

Shame / Bathroom Jokes

Eph

 

Approving of Any of Those who do such things

Rom_1:

 

How to repent?  -- STOP!

Simpler than most are willing to admit.

A pervert makes no difference between one who has sinned, and those who keep sinning!

 

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Family Purity

9/8/16-9/16/16; 6/7/17…8/5/20 (40-day goal); 9/7/20

 

 

9/7/20

@Hd Thank you Great Sir for your wise words yesterday. I greatly appreciate hearing how to love and honor God and Men more. I really like solutions for caring about men's masculinity. Something on my inside felt relieving to hear the words you spoke yesterday =)-K

 

 

>> Get Heretic verses & info from:

http://atruechurch.info/sexduringmenstruation.html

 

 

11/22/18

 

 

Sarah’s Tent

Niddah hut

 

40-day goal

8/5/20

 

40 Days has always been our general goal (never 6 weeks / 42 days)

 

and this 40-day goal is not even our (gentile) law, but just so happens to correlate with what we seem to experience as seen in the Jewish law:

 

Lev_12 (40 days for male, 80 for female)

 

we are doing 40 because that correlates with our experience, even though we have no such law specified

 

@Al: “In other words, it's interesting how pagans say that 6 weeks is what's normally healthy (due to cervix findings for example), and that just so happens to correlate with the minimum Jewish requirement”

 

 

both child birth laws (given to Jews) and regular monthly regulations (for gentile also), are based on a "fountain"/flow of blood and also setting apart/impurity:

Jews: Lev_12:7; Lev_15:19

Jews & Gentiles: Lev_18:19; Lev_20:18

 

 

 

Birth

 

Can husbands attend?

Num_12:12 WEB Let her not, I pray, be as one dead, of whom the flesh is half consumed when he comes out of his mother's womb."

Num_12:12 LB Let her not be like death, as an abortion coming out of his mother's womb, when the disease devours the half of the flesh.”

Num_12:12 μὴ γένηται ὡσεὶ ἴσον θανάτῳ, ὡσεὶ ἔκτρωμα ἐκπορευόμενον ἐκ μήτρας μητρὸς καὶ κατεσθίει τὸ ἥμισυ τῶν σαρκῶν αὐτῆς.

 

>>Scrip:

 

I found you in your blood

 

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Lev_12:2

the concerning part is "as in the days of her customary impurity" both greek and hebrew versions seem to say the same thing.
Lev_15:19

Lev_18:22 WEB  " 'You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestable.

Lev_18:22 And you shall not lie with a man as with a woman, for it is an abomination.

Lev_18:22  καὶ μετὰ ἄρσενος οὐ κοιμηθήσῃ κοίτην γυναικός· βδέλυγμα γάρ ἐστιν. 19 –

Lev_20:18

 

2) There are three bible words for a female in a flow: a) niddah: females in a menstrual flow b) Yoledet: flow of a pregnant woman c) Zavah: any other type of uterine flow

 

 

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Gen_3:16

 

Targum: "Unto the woman He said, Multiplying, I will multiply thy affliction by the blood of thy virginity, and by thy conception; in sorrow shalt thou bear children, and to thy husband shall be thy desire, and he will have rule over thee unto righteousness or unto sin."

 

Lev_12:2 (A) – "to the children of Israel"

Lev_12:2 (B) – she shall be uncleanH2930 = "̣āmē’, ָטְמָאה"

Lev_12:2 (C) – of "the daysH3117 of the separationH5079" = of the days of Niddah "נָדּה niddāh"

the concerning part is "as in the days of her customary impurity" both greek and hebrew versions seem to say the same thing.

Lev_12:5  have femail child: "as in her separation:H5079" 66 days

>> is this a comparisen, parallel, or equation to monthly separation?

 

Lev_15:2  "to the children of Israel"

Lev_15:2  males are unclean in a flow...
Lev_15:19 – 'if flow of blood' = "put apartH5079" = Niddah; LXX: ἑπτὰ ἡμέρας ἔσται ἐν τῇ ἀφέδρῳ αὐτῆς

Lev_15:20 – ἀφέδρῳ contaminates

Lev_15:24 – any man/male lie with her....

Lev_15:25 – beyond normal separation

Lev_15:31 – These Jewish laws are based on "My tabernacle that is among them"

Lev_15:33 – accedental sleeping witgh flow

5 s

 

We Gentiles are not allowed to keep "don't touch" rules

Col_2:20-23, esp. Col_2:22

 

 

Lev_18:2 – "to the children of Israel"

Lev_18:5 – "if a manH120 do,H6213 he shall liveH2425 in them" -- Rom_10:5, Gal_3:12

Lev_18:6 / Lev_18:8 – Noah

Lev_18:12 / Lev_18:14 / Lev_20:2 – evidence that this only applies to men / it is gender-specific <> Calab's brother married Calab's daughter

 

 

 

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Lev_18:16 >> Lev_18:18 – till death do part ... probably applies back to: Lev_18:12 / Lev_18:14 / Lev_18:17

>> this brings up the Jacob & his sister-wives -- if close family marriages happen anyway, should they stay together?

>> is this now like DAR?

>> It was not like DAR in Jacob's time -- they stayed together despite the negativities later mentioned in the law

Lev_18:18 – Jacob experienced that vexation and stayed married... so what do you do with that?

 

Lev_18:19 – !!

/\\/

Lev_20:18

 

Lev_18:23 – a rule given to a woman

 

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Lev_18:24 ‘Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for in all these things the nations are defiled, which I drove out before you,

Lev_18:25 

Lev_18:25 and the land is polluted; and I have recompensed their iniquity to them because of it, and the land is aggrieved with them that dwell upon it.

Lev_18:25  καὶ ἐμιάνθη ἡ γῆ, καὶ ἀνταπέδωκα ἀδικίαν αὐτοῖς δι᾿ αὐτήν, καὶ προσώχθισεν ἡ γῆ τοῖς ἐγκαθημένοις ἐπ᾿ αὐτῆς.

 

Lev_18:26 And you shall keep all My statutes and all My ordinances, and you shall do none of these abominations; neither the native, nor the stranger that joins himself with you:

Lev_18:26  καὶ φυλάξεσθε πάντα τὰ νόμιμά μου καὶ πάντα τὰ προστάγματά μου καὶ οὐ ποιήσετε ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν βδελυγμάτων τούτων, ὁ ἐγχώριος καὶ ὁ προσγενόμενος προσήλυτος ἐν ὑμῖν·

 

Lev_18:27 KJV+  (ForH3588 (H853) allH3605 theseH411 abominationsH8441 have the menH376 of the landH776 done,H6213 whichH834 were beforeH6440 you, and the landH776 is defiled;)H2930

Lev_18:27 (for all these abominations the men of the land did who were before you, and the land was defiled)

Lev_18:27  πάντα γὰρ τὰ βδελύγματα ταῦτα ἐποίησαν οἱ ἄνθρωποι τῆς γῆς οἱ ὄντες πρότεροι ὑμῶν, καὶ ἐμιάνθη ἡ γῆ·

Lev_18:28 KJV+  That the landH776 spue not you outH6958 H3808 (H853) also, when ye defileH2930 it, asH834 it spued outH6958 (H853) the nationsH1471 thatH834 were beforeH6440 you.

Lev_18:28 and lest the land be enraged with you in your polluting it, as it was enraged with the nations before you.

Lev_18:28  καὶ ἵνα μὴ προσοχθίσῃ ὑμῖν ἡ γῆ ἐν τῷ μιαίνειν ὑμᾶς αὐτήν, ὃν τρόπον προσώχθισεν τοῖς ἔθνεσιν τοῖς πρὸ ὑμῶν.

Lev_18:29 KJV+  ForH3588 whosoeverH3605 H834 shall commitH6213 anyH4480 H3605 of theseH428 abominations,H8441 even the soulsH5315 that commitH6213 them shall be cut offH3772 from amongH4480 H7130 their people.H5971

Lev_18:29 For whosoever shall do any of these abominations, the souls that do them shall be destroyed from among their people.

Lev_18:29  ὅτι πᾶς, ὃς ἂν ποιήσῃ ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν βδελυγμάτων τούτων, ἐξολεθρευθήσονται αἱ ψυχαὶ αἱ ποιοῦσαι ἐκ τοῦ λαοῦ αὐτῶν.

 

Lev_18:19

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Lev_20:18

 

Lev_20:18 KJV+  And ifH834 a manH376 shall lieH7901 withH854 a womanH802 having her sickness,H1739 and shall uncoverH1540 (H853) her nakedness;H6172 he hath discoveredH6168 (H853) her fountain,H4726 and sheH1931 hath uncoveredH1540 (H853) the fountainH4726 of her blood:H1818 and bothH8147 of them shall be cut offH3772 from amongH4480 H7130 their people.H5971

Lev_20:18 LB And whatever man shall lie with a woman that is set apart for her impurity, and shall uncover her nakedness, he has uncovered her fountain, and she has uncovered the flux of her blood: they shall both be destroyed from among their generation.

Lev_20:18  καὶ ἀνήρ, ὃς ἂν κοιμηθῇ μετὰ γυναικὸς ἀποκαθημένης καὶ ἀποκαλύψῃ τὴν ἀσχημοσύνην αὐτῆς, τὴν πηγὴν αὐτῆς ἀπεκάλυψεν, καὶ αὕτη ἀπεκάλυψεν τὴν ῥύσιν τοῦ αἵματος αὐτῆς· ἐξολεθρευθήσονται ἀμφότεροι ἐκ τοῦ γένους αὐτῶν.

 

Lev_20:23 KJV+  And ye shall notH3808 walkH1980 in the mannersH2708 of the nation,H1471 whichH834 IH589 cast outH7971 beforeH4480 H6440 you: forH3588 they committedH6213 (H853) allH3605 these things,H428 and therefore I abhorredH6973 them.

Lev_20:23 LB And do not walk according to the customs of the nations which I drive out from before you; for they have done all these things, and I have abhorred them:

Lev_20:23  καὶ οὐχὶ πορεύεσθε τοῖς νομίμοις τῶν ἐθνῶν, οὓς ἐξαποστέλλω ἀφ᾿ ὑμῶν· ὅτι ταῦτα πάντα ἐποίησαν, καὶ ἐβδελυξάμην αὐτούς.

 

Ezekiel on Separation from Blood Flow

Other date(s); 9/7/20

 

Eze_18:6

Eze_22:10

Eze_36:17 – .

 

 

Monthly Absence

 

 

Marital abstinence during prayer and fasting

11/4/18

this may be a series that could unofficially be titled the bedroom of the righteous...

 

don't come toward a woman for 3 days before receiving the 10 commandments

>Tsk

 

eating the showbread as long as three days of abstinence proceeded

no separation accept temporary prayer and fasting

 

1co7 only temporary separation for prayer and possibly fasting

 

if men are going to properly build up a Sanctified Supply for the purpose of sacrificial Devotion to the Creator, this means not even coming toward a woman for 3 days.

 

if men and women are not going to be getting busy anytime soon it is better for them to not even be in the same room since it is contradictory and against the nature of the proper use of a woman for a man to be exposed to a woman and not do anything with her.

this becomes more and more the case as it approaches 3 days of waiting.

 

the proper use of a woman

when David was not busy using Abigail or Bathsheba or any of his other women, he was sleeping alone.

for some reason they had to get him a new woman at the end of his life because he had begun to grow cold from sleeping alone even though at least some of his women were still alive after his death.

 

Joseph, Hosea, and the captive slave woman sitting in the house in another room for many days

 

 

 

Can Sister’s Raise Their Brothers / Change their Diapers?

9/17/16

 

Lev_20:17 KJV+  And ifH834 a manH376 shall takeH3947 (H853) his sister,H269 his father'sH1 daughter,H1323 orH176 his mother'sH517 daughter,H1323 and seeH7200 (H853) her nakedness,H6172 and sheH1931 seeH7200 (H853) his nakedness;H6172 itH1931 is a wicked thing;H2617 and they shall be cut offH3772 in the sightH5869 of their people:H1121 H5971 he hath uncoveredH1540 his sister'sH269 nakedness;H6172 he shall bearH5375 his iniquity.H5771

Lev_20:17 LB Whosoever shall take his sister by his father or by his mother, and shall see her nakedness, and she see his nakedness, it is a reproach: they shall be destroyed before the children of their family; he has uncovered his sister's nakedness, they shall bear their sin.

Lev_20:17  ὃς ἐὰν λάβῃ τὴν ἀδελφὴν αὐτοῦ ἐκ πατρὸς αὐτοῦ ἢ ἐκ μητρὸς αὐτοῦ καὶ ἴδῃ τὴν ἀσχημοσύνην αὐτῆς καὶ αὕτη ἴδῃ τὴν ἀσχημοσύνην αὐτοῦ, ὄνειδός ἐστιν, ἐξολεθρευθήσονται ἐνώπιον υἱῶν γένους αὐτῶν· ἀσχημοσύνην ἀδελφῆς αὐτοῦ ἀπεκάλυψεν, ἁμαρτίαν κομιοῦνται.

 

 

 

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Sir_9:8 Turn away thine eye from a beautiful woman, and look not upon another's beauty; for many have been deceived by the beauty of a woman; for herewith love is kindled ...

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Sexual Courage

8/6/16-8/7/16

 

All things are open and naked with Him whom we have to do

--

Unbelieving Fear is always our enemy.

It is always our high ambition to defeat it in the most extreme terms possible.

 

We are not told to jump off the pinnacle of the temple, but we should be ambitious to ascend up into heaven when that time comes.

 

We are not allowed to fully express ourselves sexually before marriage, but when that time comes, we want to make the biggest statement of courage ever possible for the maximum glory and explosion.

 

In any case, we want to live in a posture of the most extreme courage ever, not being willing to hold onto any slightest sexual fear, or even the things that, in any possible slightest way, agree with that fear.

 

Examples of sexual courage

Jesus’ being executed, but minding down the same

Song of Songs -- after marriage

 

Some people in EC were baptized naked… although, I do not know how that might fit with

·         Noah’s example (if a father were ever converted, for example)

·         Acts: Phillip baptizing men and women (unless it was actually done by proxy)

 

 

Being healed

 

Marriage itself is inherently a bold and courageous act -- requires lots of zeal and passion and determination to go that far with someone.

 

toys

Alt Fish eating

Sleeping without covers

 

 

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8/6/16

 

Pagan: Don’t talk about your love life

It's disgusting and it's classless

http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/talk/

8/6/16

 

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Value BBs

7/31/16; …8/4/16

 

Good Shame

8/4/16

 

Sir: There is a shame that bring honor, and there is that which bring honor…

>> Sync: NOW | Pur

 

He embraces the range of the word in different contexts.

 

 

Pro_9:13 WEB  The foolish woman is loud, Undisciplined, and knows nothing.

Pro_9:13 A foolish and bold woman, who does not know modesty [αἰσχύνην – shame], comes to want a morsel.

Pro_9:13  Γυνὴ ἄφρων καὶ θρασεῖα ἐνδεὴς ψωμοῦ γίνεται, ἣ οὐκ ἐπίσταται αἰσχύνην·

 

 

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Psa_149:5 WEB  Let the saints rejoice in honor. Let them sing for joy on their beds.

Psa_149:5 LB The saints shall rejoice in glory; and shall exalt on their beds.

Psa_149:5  καυχήσονται ὅσιοι ἐν δόξῃ καὶ ἀγαλλιάσονται ἐπὶ τῶν κοιτῶν αὐτῶν·

 

 

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Biblical Bathrooms

>> Pop: MCB

 

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The Holy Kiss

6/19/16 (Brought over from FAQs)

 

“φιλήματι” (phílēma; G5370), from “φιλέω” (philé; G5368)

 

1Th_5:26

Rom_16:16

1Co_16:20

 

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The Strange Woman

6/14/16

 

Foreign/strange to your people/society -- untrained and uncultured women are going to be worthless and without character or submission and clean order needed for glory and honor among great men, and will destroy the happiness of the home and pollute your hope with discouragement…

 

 

Foreign/strange to your faith -- she is not of my species

 

 

Foreign/strange to you -- she is not your wife. Any woman that does not belong to you is sinful and defiling when she enters into your intimacy.

 

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Bothers Protect

5/11/16

>> where is the original compilation/teaching for this

>> SoS: she received their protection

 

Gen_34: -- Jacob shows that his sons own their sister

 

 

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How to Give a Complement Without Flirting

5/1/16

Check your bubble – A bubble that is in proximity during a compliment implies intimacy.

Check your smile, because a smile can give away personable feelings

Check your admiration, and make sure your are not admiring them personably

Check your vocabulary, look for trigger words that trigger personable admiration

Check your mutuality and your feelings of appreciation

 

If all else fails then,

Check your courage to make a sacrifice

Keep in mind that it is better to chop off a hand than to lust. It is better to seem like a social reject in society than to lust or promote lust.

 

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Encouragement to Troubled Marriages

>> Pop: dex

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Marriage Accountability

4/11/16; 5/11/16

Getting your parents or any authority to select a spouse for you

 

Gen_24:1-3 – Isaac was expected to even submit himself to the oversight of a servant… or anything, just so long as he was not getting himself married.

>> Ishmael had to go to his mom

>> Samson was going around in all kind of places, but when it came to marriage, he turned to ask his dad to get in this woman as a wife.

 

 

Gen_38:1 KJV+  And it came to passH1961 at thatH1931 time,H6256 that JudahH3063 went downH3381 fromH4480 H854 his brethren,H251 and turned inH5186 toH5704 a certainH376 Adullamite,H5726 whose nameH8034 was Hirah.H2437

Gen_38:1 Judah and Tamar And it came to pass at that time, that Judah went down from his brothers, and came as far as to a certain man of Adullam, whose name was Hirah.

Gen_38:1  Ἐγένετο δὲ ἐν τῷ καιρῷ ἐκείνῳ κατέβη Ιουδας ἀπὸ τῶν ἀδελφῶν αὐτοῦ καὶ ἀφίκετο ἕως πρὸς ἄνθρωπόν τινα Οδολλαμίτην, ᾧ ὄνομα Ιρας.

 

 

Gen_38:2 KJV+  And JudahH3063 sawH7200 thereH8033 a daughterH1323 of a certainH376 Canaanite,H3669 whose nameH8034 was Shuah;H7770 and he tookH3947 her, and went inH935 untoH413 her.

Gen_38:2 LB And Judah saw there the daughter of a Canaanite man, whose name was Shua; and he took her, and went in to her.

Gen_38:2  καὶ εἶδεν ἐκεῖ Ιουδας θυγατέρα ἀνθρώπου Χαναναίου, ᾗ ὄνομα Σαυα, καὶ ἔλαβεν αὐτὴν καὶ εἰσῆλθεν πρὸς αὐτήν.

 

 

Gen_38:6 KJV+  And JudahH3063 tookH3947 a wifeH802 for ErH6147 his firstborn,H1060 whose nameH8034 was Tamar.H8559

Gen_38:6 LB And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar.

Gen_38:6  καὶ ἔλαβεν Ιουδας γυναῖκα Ηρ τῷ πρωτοτόκῳ αὐτοῦ, ᾗ ὄνομα Θαμαρ.

 

 

 

Premarital Isolation

1/4/16

 

The Evil That Happens In Isolation

Isolation with someone you’re not married to is where bad things happen

 

Solemn sees a harlot seduce a man

 

Joseph fleas from Potifer’s wife

 

Women are in danger of Rape

 

Willful isolation with a potential mate inherently suggests a statement of permission to intimacy with them that only belongs to their spouse.

 

The Law Of Moses Opposes Isolation Of Unmarried People

 

>>Scrip:

The law of Moses said to end isolation by screaming

 

Numbers 5 talks about a woman turning aside

 

The Talmud and other Jewish writings talked about isolation being directly associated with being directly associated with being intimate with someone.

 

To this day, Jews are intentional to have a new husband and wife spend designated time with each other directly after the ceremony.

 

Since it is obvious that Jesus came to raise the standard much higher than the law ever set, then we know for certain that our purity standards have to be absolutely blameless and perfect.

 

The Modesty Of Real Women Typically Keeps Them Further Away From Isolation

 

Women are supposed to be “busy at home”, therefore the threat of Isolation almost never happens unless they go out and play the harlot.

 

Women are not supposed to be walking around after dark

Ruth

SoS,

etc.

 

 

 

The Well Is Where Men Always Seem To End Up Meeting Women

 

Abraham’s servant meets Rebecca

Jacob meets Rachel

Moses meets the daughters of Jethro, including his future wife

Jesus meets the woman at the well

 

Also consider: jdg -- men capturing women who came out to dance

 

Biblical Reasons To Be “Alone” With A Woman

 

You are at a well

 

If you are behind closed doors…

 

If you are raising a woman from the dead

>>Scrip:

Jesus raises as a girl from the dead

Peter raises a woman from the dead

 

Note: it is not practically possible to be tempted by / attracted to a dead person -- at least under normal circumstances, without demons being involved.

Note: when a person is dead, their sexuality and that other appeals are inherently broken.

 

 

Conclusion

Avoid every appearance of evil

 

Flee also youthful lusts

 

If you ever find that you have gone too far, then you can be sure that you were going wrong direction to begin with.

 

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How Do We Know that Fornication is Wrong?

12/6/15

 

We can actually define fornication in the Scriptures.

Hebrew and Greek mean prostitution and fornication…

 

Deu_22: -- she is killed for not being a virgin, or at least for hiding her status with assumed virginity.

 

When prostitution becomes fornication, it is outrageous!

 

>>Scrip:

Did not charge for your sin…

You gave gifts to your lovers!

You open legs to all

 

Women used to often have to resort to prostitution to fornicate.

It was considered even more outrageous to do it for free.

 

Holding Hands

10/30/15; …; 11/7/15; 11/8/15

 

(1) Men Holding Men's Hands

 

Jdg_16:26 – boy [παιδαριονG3808] holds Samson's hand - is this dishonoring?

- comp: Act_22:11; Act_23:19 (as seen below)

 

2Ki_13:16 – all hands on bow

2Ki_10:15 – lifting up into the chariot, based on heart agreement

 

Isa_42:6 – God's strengthening/exalting hand-holding of Jesus

Isa_63:12,

Psa_73:23 – God's redemptive hand-holding of the Psalmist

 

Mat_14:31 – Jesus catches sinking Peter

 

Mar_8:23

Mar_9:27

 

(Act_4:30)

(Luk_14:4)

 

Act_3:7 – Healing legs

 

Act_23:19 – Commander taking child asside

 

Act_22:11 CAB  "And since I could not see because of the brightness of that light, being led by the hand by those who were with me, I came into Damascus.

Act_22:11 Greek  ὡς δὲ οὐκ ἐνέβλεπον ἀπὸ τῆς δόξης τοῦ φωτὸς ἐκείνου, χειραγωγούμενος ὑπὸ τῶν συνόντων μοι ἦλθον εἰς Δαμασκόν.

 

(Mar_1:41)

 

(1Ki_19:7?)

 

(Jdg_3:21)

 

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(2) Men Holding Women's Hands

 

Gen_21:18 – Hagar Holds her son's hand

Gen_19:16 – Young "men"* hold wife's and daughter's hands (* Gen_18:1-2; Gen_18:16; Gen_18:21-22; (Gen_18:33); Gen_19:1, Gen_19:5)

 

Healing girls by holding/touching their hands:

Mat_9:25

Mar_1:31

Mar_5:41

Luk_8:54

Act_9:41

 

(3) Should Women Follow Behind, or be Followed, or Be Next to Men?

 

Bad Cases:

Pro_7:21, Pro_5:5

 

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Jdg_13:6-11    

 

Joh_4: woman at the well

 

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Son_8:1

 

Son_3:4 I had scarcely passed from them, when I found him whom my soul loves. I held him, and would not let him go, until I had brought him into my mother's house, into the chamber of her who conceived me.

Son_3:4 It was as a little while after I parted from them, that I found him whom my soul loves: I held him, and did not let him go, until I brought him into my mother's house, and into the chamber of her that conceived me.

Son_3:4  ὡς μικρὸν ὅτε παρῆλθον ἀπ᾿ αὐτῶν, ἕως οὗ εὗρον ὃν ἠγάπησεν ἡ ψυχή μου· ἐκράτησα αὐτὸν καὶ οὐκ ἀφήσω αὐτόν, ἕως οὗ εἰσήγαγον αὐτὸν εἰς οἶκον μητρός μου καὶ εἰς ταμίειον τῆς συλλαβούσης με.

 

Son_8:2 KJV+br-CAB-Gr+  I would leadH5090 thee, and bringH935 thee intoH413 my mother'sH517 house,H1004 who would instructH3925 me: I would cause thee to drinkH8248 of spicedH7544 wineH4480 H3196 of the juiceH4480 H6071 of my pomegranate.H7416

Son_8:2 CAB  I would take you, I would bring you into my mother's house, and into the chamber of her that conceived me; I would make you to drink of spiced wine, of the juice of my pomegranates.

 

Son_4:8 Come with me from Lebanon, my bride, with me from Lebanon. Look from the top of Amana, from the top of Senir and Hermon, from the lions' dens, from the mountains of the leopards.

Son_4:8 Come from Lebanon, my bride, come from Lebanon: you shall come and pass from the top of Faith, from the top of Senir and Hermon, from the lions' dens, from the mountains of the leopards.

Son_4:8  Δεῦρο ἀπὸ Λιβάνου, νύμφη, δεῦρο ἀπὸ Λιβάνου· ἐλεύσῃ καὶ διελεύσῃ ἀπὸ ἀρχῆς πίστεως, ἀπὸ κεφαλῆς Σανιρ καὶ Ερμων, ἀπὸ μανδρῶν λεόντων, ἀπὸ ὀρέων παρδάλεων.

 

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Psa_45:9

 

(4) PDA

 

SoS

No Public Kissing vs.

Who is this who comes leaning...

 

6/24/15

...

Values The recipient needs to have

...

Realities that are going on in the giver

...

 

 

 

 

 

Pre-marital, Pre-Betrothal Clinging

 

Tob_6:13

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Tob_7:13-14

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Rth_4:9

 

 

6/6/15

“Weirton on June 3th, 2015

 

Oh wise and discerning Dad,

 

I have a question:

 

We mentioned Premarital/betrothal clinging with Tobias

 

Tob_6:10-18

 

From what those scriptures say: How is that still premarital clinging if through the kinsman redeemer law it was both a social and god given right for him to take her if he wanted her. So since he was 1) backed by the law of Moses/God commandment, 2) wanted her and 3) intended to take her, then isn't the need to first initiate a traditional bethrothal sort of irrelevant. Wasn't he beyond that point? Furthermore, wouldn't it be completely lawful, right, and even expected for him to set his heart on her and to cling to her seeing that he was literally on his way to retrieve what rightfully pertained to him?

 

 

Distinguishing side note thought regarding women and this law:

 

Even inside the jurisdiction of this law/commandment it seems different for a woman to premaritally cling as you've mentioned in your exclusivity example with Thamar.

 

For women, there still seems to be a need for a man to follow through with taking her. So it makes sense what you said about her being careful not to set her heart on being with these redeemer men.

 

And as a justifying praise of Thamar:  Yay, she courageously overcame the need for Judah to take her and just went ahead and did the work for him.

 

If I'm misunderstanding something  Dad, please let me know :-)=”

 

 

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Male Hormones Are Often Deadly for Single Men

 

 for some reason I keep getting the impression that increasing manly things like strength, vitality, etc seem to go hand in hand with stirring up things.” (Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:59 AM)

 

Yes, it is very true. Testosterone is a very “healthy”/vitalizing/etc. thing but very dangerous and hurtful to increase in a single man who already is near death at times with more needs for a woman than he can by any means handle. It is actually very hard (often near impossible) to be healthy and be a moral single man who still needs marriage.

 

Needing to mate all the time is what it means to be a healthy man.

 

Testosterone = a male hormone that takes over the entire brain network and heart and feelings of a man and even his whole body and sends out overwhelming alarms and urgent cries and panic attacks that demand and scream louder than you can think, shooting electrical thoughts throughout your brain at every slightest chance, and takes control of everything in you and says with all of the might of your being, “mate as quickly as you can, right NOW, no matter what, or you’re going to die from these innumerable and overwhelming and increasing torchers and unbearable hurts and be eaten up alive!”

 

It is usually very miserable being a single man. It is not good for man to be alone. Oh how the Creator has indebted men to marry, and only prayer can possibly save him!

(6/14/2015 3:26 PM)

 

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Defining Virginity

10/16/14

Biologically – Blood on wedding night

Physically – Never having been pierced/penetrated by a man (this is one of the literal Hebrew words for "virginity")

Morally – Never having looked or touched a man in a sexually modifying way (no physical PRA)

Never engaging in desire toward anyone in your heart before marriage (no PRA at all)

 

Spiritually – Being exclusively obsessed over one God and one spouse all of your lives, without ever even letting any other consideration be entertained in your heart.

Historically: She has never been with another man

Visually: She has never looked at a man sexually

Psychologically/Morally: She has no man in her heart at all

[Return to: Accept their Restoration By Faith?]

 

This is most excellently displayed in a great marriage

 

Exclusivity Thoughts

Like or admit it or not, most humans are actually very flexible for a large variety of marital options, and there are a lot of fish in the sea. Even if you wish otherwise, your whimsical lusts lead you from one person to another (especially before marriage when true virginity faith is tested).

 

A spiritual virgin cannot know romantic love for anyone outside of monotheism, and whatever exact person makes a singular match for that parable.

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The Excellence of Celibacy

The Mightiness of Celibacy

The Excellency of Perpetual Virginity by a Spiritual Eunuch

Blessed Eunuchs!

11/23/12; 11/28/12; 12/10/14; 2/9/15; 5/01/15-5/2/15; 5/8/15; 5/12/15-5/13/15; 7/7/15; 11/29/15 (presented for 1st time); 12/12/15

Parable Matchup | The Mightiness of Celibacy

 

The Blessing of Celibacy

Isa_54:1-4; Mat_19:10-12; 1Co_7:1; 1Co_7:6-9; 1Co_7:25-38;  

>> Sync: Pur | FamCo

 

 

 

 

OT Examples of Celibacy

Excellence-Of-Celibacy--01--Isaiah-Jeremiah--11.29.15.mp3

Just like virginity was initially a female thing, being a eunuch was initially a male thing

 

Isaiah

Isa_54:1-7, etc. – Many more children are the desolate

>> Al: Gal_4:27 – How did Paul associate that verse with Sarah?

Isa_56:3-7, etc.  – Don't let the eunuch say, I am a dry tree

 

Jeremiah – You Shall Not Take a Wife -- WEB CAB Greek

Jer_16:1 WEB  [The word of Yahweh came also to me, saying]↓,

Jer_16:1 CAB  [And you shall not take a wife]↓, ↑[says the Lord God of Israel].

Jer_16:1  Καὶ σὺ μὴ λάβῃς γυναῖκα, λέγει κύριος ὁ θεὸς Ισραηλ,

Jer_16:2 WEB  [You shall not take a wife]↑, ↓[neither shall you have sons or daughters, in this place.]

Jer_16:2 CAB  [And there shall be no son born to you, nor daughter in this place.]↑

Jer_16:2  καὶ οὐ γεννηθήσεταί σοι υἱὸς οὐδὲ θυγάτηρ ἐν τῷ τόπῳ τούτῳ.

 

Sirach 36 – Who Trusts An Unmarried Man?

Sir_36:21  Though any man may be accepted as a husband,

yet one girl will be more suitable than another.12

22  A woman’s beauty makes her husband’s face light up,

for it surpasses all else that charms the eye;

23  and if, in addition, her speech is soothing,13

his lot is beyond that of mortal men.

24  He who acquires a wife gets his best possession,14

a helpmate15 and a pillar of support.16

25  A vineyard with no hedge will be overrun;

a man with no wife becomes a homeless wanderer.17

26  Who will trust an armed band that shifts from city to city?

Or a man who has no nest,

but lodges where night overtakes him?

 

Wisdom Blesses The Eunuch

Wis_3:11-19 Brenton  For whoso despiseth wisdom and nurture, he is miserable, and their hope is vain, their labours unfruitful, and their works unprofitable:  12  Their wives are foolish, and their children wicked:  13  Their offspring is cursed. Wherefore blessed is the barren that is undefiled, which hath not known the sinful bed: she shall have fruit in the visitation of souls. [Sir_18:20; 1Pe_2:12]  14  And blessed is the eunuch, which with his hands hath wrought no iniquity, nor imagined wicked things against God: for unto him shall be given the special gift of faith, and an inheritance in the temple of the Lord [Isa_56:5] more acceptable to his mind.  15  For glorious is the fruit of good labours: and the root of wisdom shall never fall away.  16  As for the children of adulterers, they shall not come to their perfection, and the seed of an unrighteous bed shal l be rooted out.  17  For though they live long, yet shall they be nothing regarded: and their last age shall be without honour.  18  Or, if they die quickly, they have no hope, neither comfort in the day of trial.  19  For horrible is the end of the unrighteous generation.

Wis_3:11-19 Greek  σοφίαν γὰρ καὶ παιδείαν ὁ ἐξουθενῶν ταλαίπωρος, καὶ κενὴ ἡ ἐλπὶς αὐτῶν, καὶ οἱ κόποι ἀνόνητοι, καὶ ἄχρηστα τὰ ἔργα αὐτῶν·  12  αἱ γυναῖκες αὐτῶν ἄφρονες, καὶ πονηρὰ τὰ τέκνα αὐτῶν, ἐπικατάρατος ἡ γένεσις αὐτῶν.  13  ὅτι μακαρία στεῖρα ἡ ἀμίαντος, ἥτις οὐκ ἔγνω κοίτην ἐν παραπτώματι, ἕξει καρπὸν ἐν ἐπισκοπῇ ψυχῶν,  14  καὶ εὐνοῦχος ὁ μὴ ἐργασάμενος ἐν χειρὶ ἀνόμημα μηδὲ ἐνθυμηθεὶς κατὰ τοῦ κυρίου πονηρά, δοθήσεται γὰρ αὐτῷ τῆς πίστεως χάρις ἐκλεκτὴ καὶ κλῆρος ἐν ναῷ κυρίου θυμηρέστερος.  15  ἀγαθῶν γὰρ πόνων καρπὸς εὐκλεής, καὶ ἀδιάπτωτος ἡ ῥίζα τῆς φρονήσεως.  16  τέκνα δὲ μοιχῶν ἀτέλεστα ἔσται, καὶ ἐκ παρανόμου κοίτης σπέρμα ἀφανισθήσεται.  17  ἐάν τε γὰρ μακρόβιοι γένωνται, εἰς οὐθὲν λογισθήσονται, καὶ ἄτιμον ἐπ᾿ ἐσχάτων τὸ γῆρας αὐτῶν·  18  ἐάν τε ὀξέως τελευτήσωσιν, οὐχ ἕξουσιν ἐλπίδα οὐδὲ ἐν ἡμέρᾳ διαγνώσεως παραμύθιον·  19  γενεᾶς γὰρ ἀδίκου χαλεπὰ τὰ τέλη.

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Wis_4:1 Brenton  Better it is to have no children, and to have virtue: for the memorial thereof is immortal: because it is known with God, and with men.

Wis_4:1  κρείσσων ἀτεκνία μετὰ ἀρετῆς· ἀθανασία γάρ ἐστιν ἐν μνήμῃ αὐτῆς, ὅτι καὶ παρὰ θεῷ γινώσκεται καὶ παρὰ ἀνθρώποις.

Wis_4:2  When it is present, men take example at it; and when it is gone, they desire it: it weareth a crown, and triumpheth for ever, having gotten the victory, striving for undefiled rewards.

Wis_4:2  παροῦσάν τε μιμοῦνται αὐτὴν καὶ ποθοῦσιν ἀπελθοῦσαν· καὶ ἐν τῷ αἰῶνι στεφανηφοροῦσα πομπεύει τὸν τῶν ἀμιάντων ἄθλων ἀγῶνα νικήσασα.

Wis_4:3  But the multiplying brood of the ungodly shall not thrive, nor take deep rooting from bastard slips, nor lay any fast foundation.

Wis_4:3  πολύγονον δὲ ἀσεβῶν πλῆθος οὐ χρησιμεύσει καὶ ἐκ νόθων μοσχευμάτων οὐ δώσει ῥίζαν εἰς βάθος οὐδὲ ἀσφαλῆ βάσιν ἑδράσει·

Wis_4:4  For though they flourish in branches for a time; yet standing not last, they shall be shaken with the wind, and through the force of winds they shall be rooted out.

Wis_4:4  κἂν γὰρ ἐν κλάδοις πρὸς καιρὸν ἀναθάλῃ, ἐπισφαλῶς βεβηκότα ὑπὸ ἀνέμου σαλευθήσεται καὶ ὑπὸ βίας ἀνέμων ἐκριζωθήσεται.

Wis_4:5  The imperfect branches shall be broken off, their fruit unprofitable, not ripe to eat, yea, meet for nothing.

Wis_4:5  περικλασθήσονται κλῶνες ἀτέλεστοι, καὶ ὁ καρπὸς αὐτῶν ἄχρηστος, ἄωρος εἰς βρῶσιν καὶ εἰς οὐθὲν ἐπιτήδειος·

Wis_4:6  For children begotten of unlawful beds are witnesses of wickedness against their parents in their trial.

Wis_4:6  ἐκ γὰρ ἀνόμων ὕπνων τέκνα γεννώμενα μάρτυρές εἰσιν πονηρίας κατὰ γονέων ἐν ἐξετασμῷ αὐτῶν.

 

[More on evil (immoral) children Comp.: Wis_4:1-6; Sir_16:1, etc.]

 

Judith – A Celibate Woman’s Zeal for Monogamy

Jdt_16:22 br-CAB  And many desired her [ἐπεθύμησαν αὐτήν], but none knew her all the days of her life [καὶ οὐκ ἔγνω ἀνὴρ αὐτὴν πάσας τὰς ἡμέρας τῆς ζωῆς αὐτῆς], after that Manasses her husband was dead, and was gathered to his people.

Jdt_16:22 Greek  καὶ πολλοὶ ἐπεθύμησαν αὐτήν, καὶ οὐκ ἔγνω ἀνὴρ αὐτὴν πάσας τὰς ἡμέρας τῆς ζωῆς αὐτῆς, ἀφ᾿ ἧς ἡμέρας ἀπέθανεν Μανασσης ὁ ἀνὴρ αὐτῆς καὶ προσετέθη πρὸς τὸν λαὸν αὐτοῦ.

 

Painful Questions About These Men

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>think: are the priests exclusive…. ?

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Jesus Was Celibate

5/19/24; 6/2/24

 

Question: Could JC Have Been Married?

 

5/19/24

AySun_11:12am(edited)

Question: I have a default conditioning that Jesus was never married but I don't really know why I believed that. I used to hear what I considered must be heresies and conspiracy theories about Jesus being married and having kids.

 

In churches and what my impression has been is that thinking Jesus was married has a conotation likened to blasphemy. How do we know for sure whether Jesus was celebate? Where does that idea come from and does the Bible actually say that or is that some type of extra thing religious people assigned/assumed unto Jesus?

AySun_11:49am(edited)

Continued....

Not to run down a conspiracy theory rabbit hole or something but:

If he did have kids there's an aspect of that that sounds kinda neat. The fallen angels have their own genealogy and seed in mankind (I wonder if the antichrist is going to come out of this lineage). Maybe there's a lineage that pertains to Jesus that still exists? Big IF that's the case, then maybe it's evil people who are trying to hide that information about a special ? I'm aware that there are groups such as the Knights Templar who claim to have "secrets" such as knowing that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene and they had kids.

 

Or maybe since in this covenant, God no longer prioritizes the flesh, he stopped the whole genealogy thing and now just sends his spirit only to dwell in those who take hold of truth through faith?

 

AlSun_12:11pm

wow Ay...

 

Demonic Fake Knowledge Says JC was Married…

·         The Gnostic “Gospel of Philip”, and possibly Cathars (as some 13th-century sources claim), and Dan Brown (in 2003) blasphemously claim JC was married

·         The married antichrist idea often goes along with things like denying Jesus’ divinity or even saying the creator was bad -- i.e. married antichrist is already associated with bad ideas (non-monotheistic, satanic, God-hating)

·         The Gnostics and the supposed “Knights Templar who claim to have "secrets" such as knowing that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene” are all part of free-think satanic blasphemies

·         In 2003 Dan Brown revived these demonic blasphemie & made them more famous than ever

 

https://knightstemplar.org/wp/kt-today/

 

The Point: married antichrist ideas have only come through satanists (such as Gnostics) all throughout history.

 

Historical/Biblical Jesus ≠ married antichrist

 

We can all very easily know that the Jesus in the Bible is the exact opposite of the one which satanists promote, including the fact of Jesus’ blessed, sacred, and holy celibacy.

 

Everyone can easily see that the moment someone talks about a married christ, that is antichrist they are referring to and pictorializing.

 

Perplexity: it would be highly unlikely for his wife to go unmentioned if he had one

 

Ironically, some goofy writers think that the Bible is silent on this important biographical detail, but that is foolish and de-educated.

 

We can clearly establish that Jesus was celibate because this vitally important biographical detail is confirmed by what the Bible actually says:

 

Isaiah 53

·         Isa_53:8 – no one could speak of His seed when He was cut off (it clearly teaches this)

·         Jesus would not get married and risk having children and (theoretically) endanger His crucified identity, by default

·         (claiming otherwise would require serious proof and take some wild explanations)

 

Celibacy Taught by Jesus & Paul

·         Mat_19:10-12, etc. – Jesus definitively taught superior celibacy, just as Paul

·         1Co_7:1, etc. – Marriage is even less advantageous for a known short-term Crucifixion calling
Paul said you should consider celibacy even more when there is hardship, such as persecution, which is why a calling to short-term crucifixion does not warrant getting married in the meantime.

 

It is illogical to think that Paul could suggest that celibacy is better, especially in persecutions, if Jesus had been a married crucified martyr.

 

1Co_9:5 – Do we have no right to take along a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas [Peter]?

 

A married Anointed One would have been crucial evidence for Paul’s authority to get married, but it was not there / available.

 

Women at a Distance at the Crucifixion

·         Mat_27:55-56/Mar_15:40-41/Luk_23:49 – Women stood at a distance at the crucifixion, due to strict purity requirements

·         Suggesting an exception would require explicit proof, and only His mother is excepted like this
Mat_27:55-56 "And many women were there beholding from afar, which had followed Jesus from Galilee, ministering unto him: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee."

·         Joh_19:25-26 – John in less specific about the women’s proximity, however…

 

Jesus Gave Away a Mom, NOT a Wife

·         Joh_19:26-27 – Jesus gave His mom to John when dying

·         Jesus had a mom to take care of at the cross, but no recorded wife

 

Resurrection Restrictions -- Purity Requirements Enforced for Women

·         Joh_20:17 – Jesus specifically told Mary Magdalene, not to touch Him (also in John) in a modifying way [μη μου απτου], after the resurrection, until He had been glorified (in direct contrast to the supposed Gnostic secrets).

·         1Co_7:1 μὴ ἅπτεσθαι – “do not touch in a modifying way” is the same purity rule and word mentioned in 1Co_7:1, which indicates not marrying.

·         Mat_28:9 – Women specifically grabbed His feet – the safe zone for outside of marriage (showing that none of them were married to Him)

·         Mat_22:30 – “at the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage", and Jesus is the first-born of this physically celibate resurrection phenomena, especially after being glorified

 

Question: Hugging the Lord, if you’re a Woman

AlSun 2:05pm(edited), 6/2/24

QnA

Hugging the Lord

In Joh_20:17 the Lord told Mary Magdalene not to haptomi him cuz he hadn't ascended yet.

Does this mean that at the resurrection we will finally be able to physically give him a big big big hug ?

 

[& concerning if he were married…]

(Hint Ay: If the Lord was married to anyone then scholars suspect that it might be Mary Magdalene. But see how in John if he was married to her then he wouldn't have told her not to haptomi touch him. Furthermore, rewind back to the crucifixion, see how the closest people to him at the foot of the cross were his mother and John. All the other woman stood at a distance, including Mary Magdalene (probably for modesty reasons at the least). Additionally, when the Lord got his house in order, the main thing he did on the cross at his dying breaths was transfer responsibility to John to take care of his mom)

 

VcSun_2:21pm, 6/2/24

Hugging God, I was thinking along those lines this week. Although I was thinking more than a hug. I was really wanting to know how to get God's attention in a romantic way. Is there a lawful way to seduce God?

 

Mom at Pentecost, Not a Wife

Act_1:15-26 – There were 120 disciples in Jerusalem waiting for the One Spirit Who is Holy on the Day of Pentecost

 

Early Church Confirms Celibacy

 

There was a drastic increase in celibacy in the early church.

 

This is because the New Covenant did much to glorify this courageous sacrifice of celibacy, which they knew was most excellently christened by Jesus Himself:

 

“some of the earliest Christian writers claimed that Jesus did not marry. In his response to a group that took a stand against marriage, Clement of Alexandria (c. 150–215) wrote, “Some openly declare that marriage is fornication and teach that it was introduced by the devil. They boast that they are imitating the Lord himself . . . .”7 So although he disagreed with their position, Clement’s quote shows an early reference to Jesus being unmarried. Tertullian (c. 160–230) wrote, “. . . since the last Adam (that is, Christ) was entirely unwedded . . . .”8

https://answersingenesis.org/jesus/was-jesus-married/

6/2/24

 

Jesus’ Heavenly Wife

·         Eph_5:23-32 – I speak of anointed one and the assembly… let each one love his wife this way

·         Rev_19:6-9 – His wife has made herself ready

·         Jesus has a specific calling to marry the Assembly -- as the ultimate super-natural marriage

·         And it is after resurrection about which Isa_53:10 says, "he shall see his offspring, he shall prolong his days; the will of the Lord shall prosper in his hand."

 

Concluding Jesus was Unmarried

 

In classical liberal free-thinking mindless style, just like divinity denial, and blaspheming the creator, and all kinds of other gross hate crimes… Heretics present JC’s marriage as a revealed secret, which plainly shows that they are trying to reverse and blaspheme what serious conservatives have always taught from the very beginning, for hundreds of years.

 

Jesus is our courageous sacrifice who inaugurated the full blessings of the poor hungry beggars, including the blessed excellence of celibates, and not a single or married heretic liberal proud flesh-monger can take this blessing away!

 

NT Celibacy

Intro To NT Celibacy

 

 

Matthew 19

Mat_19:10-12

 

Woes of Un-favored Marriage

TSK (on Jer_16):

Gen_19:14, Mat_24:19, Luk_21:23, Luk_23:29 (blessed are the breasts which have not nursed…), 1Co_7:26, 1Co_7:27

Reciprocal: Deu_28:32

 

1st Corinthians 7

1Co_7:1 – καλὸν Good G2570

1Co_7:2

1Co_7:3

1Co_7:4

1Co_7:5

1Co_7:6

1Co_7:7 – εἶναι To Be G1511 V-PXN  ὡς G5613 ADV  καὶ Even As G2532 CONJ  ἐμαυτόν· Myself : G1683 F-1ASM / χάρισμα Gift G5486

1Co_7:8  καλὸν Good G2570 A-NSN / ὡς As G5613 ADV  κἀγώ· Even I

1Co_7:9 – ἐγκρατεύονται Self Control, G1467 /

1Co_7:10

1Co_7:11

1Co_7:12

1Co_7:13

1Co_7:12

1Co_7:13

1Co_7:14

1Co_7:15

1Co_7:16

1Co_7:17

1Co_7:18

1Co_7:19 – (τήρησις Keeping G5084 N-NSF  ἐντολῶν Commandments G1785 N-GPF  θεοῦ God's. G2316)

1Co_7:20

1Co_7:21

1Co_7:22

1Co_7:23

1Co_7:24

1Co_7:25 – (γνώμην G1106 / ἠλεημένος Having Received Mercy G1653)

1Co_7:26 – Good X 2! – καλὸν Good G2570, καλὸν Good G2570

1Co_7:27

1Co_7:28 – (non-tribulation θλιψιν)

1Co_7:29 a – married people should imitated Celebate people

1Co_7:29 b – Standing Together

Jdg_8:28 (συνεσταλη/ABP: ενετραπη); Jdg_11:33 (H3665 ni.), Sir_4:31

(Eze_29:5: συναχθηςG4863 V-APS-2S; 1Co_7:26: ἐνεστῶσαν Present G1764 V-RAP-ASF... 1Co_7:29: συνεσταλμένος Straitened Is. G4958 V-RPP-NSM; Act_5:6: ανασταντες... συνέστειλαν Swathed G4958 V-AAI-3P)

1Co_7:30

1Co_7:31

1Co_7:32 a – ἀμερίμνους Without Care G275 

1Co_7:32 b – Lord-pleasing TSBἀρέσει He will Please G700 V-FAI-3S / Aαρεση He might Please G700 V-AAS-3S τῷ The G3588 T-DSM  κυρίῳ· Lord; G2962 N-DSM

1Co_7:33 – (TSBαρεσει Aαρεση τη γυναικι – i.e. 1Co_7:3: TSBευνοιαν; Deu_24:5: εὐφρανεῖ τὴν γυναῖκα αὐτοῦ, ἣν ἔλαβεν)

1Co_7:34 – Holy in body & Spirit (vs. πως TSBαρεσει Aαρεση τω ανδρι)

1Co_7:35 a TSBσυμφέρον May [?] carry together to profit G4851 V-PAP-ASN / Aσυμφορον carrying together to profit-ish-ing G4851 A-ASN

1Co_7:35 b ... εὔσχημον Seemly, G2158 A-ASN 

1Co_7:35 c TSBεὐπρόσεδρον good-siting-toward G2145 A-ASN 

 / Aευπαρεδρον good-siting-next to [?] G2145 A-ASN 

1Co_7:35 d – ἀπερισπάστως Without Distraction. G563 ADV

1Co_7:36

1Co_7:37 – ἐξουσίαν G1849 N-ASF... καλῶς Well G2573 ADV  ποιεῖ· He Does. G4160 V-PAI-3S

1Co_7:38 – κρεῖσσον Better G2908 A-ASN  ποιεῖ· Does. G4160 V-PAI-3S

1Co_7:39

1Co_7:40 – μακαριωτέρα G3107 A-NSF-C

 

What about Temporary or 'non-gifted' Celibacy?

3/8/15

> Through many trials we must enter the Kingdom... Blessed is the man that endures temptation... God's favor is sufficient... I can do all things... Nothing is impossible with the one wh believes... Ask and you will receive...

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Al: By NC Default, Is Celibacy A Calling to Remain In, When Called?

7/27/14

is the reason to change when you can obey God's commands by changing?

1Co_7:

1Co_7:15 - emphasis: as God has called, remain

1Co_7:24

1Co_7:40

1Co_7:20 - being free... if you can use something to fulfill God's commandment

>> so is this when to get married & end celibacy?

>> whenever you can use something to keep commandment, then you change the state you were called in

Also review / re-answer:

mightier to marry than to burn???

>> why is this not like Patric?

 

How To Default To Marriage Without Defaulting To Settling For Less

Aye: 1) We've said: Even in new covenant Marriage is default. Celibacy is default for us (girls) since we're on Mars. If by default celibacy is greater than marriage, how can we default to considering marriage (even if we weren't on Mars) and it not be settling for less. Would that mean we would receive a consoling prophesy that in marriage we could attain to the same greatness as celibacy? Hopefully that question doesn't sound "already answered" there really is something in there I'm trying to ask.

11/29/15

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Marriage is for This Life

2Ma_14:25 br-CAB  He prayed him also to take a wife, and to beget children: so he married, was quiet, and took part of this life.

2Ma_14:25 Greek  παρεκάλεσεν αὐτὸν γῆμαι καὶ παιδοποιήσασθαι· ἐγάμησεν, εὐστάθησεν, ἐκοινώνησεν βίου.

>>  Macc: he took part in this here and not life... <> 1Co_7: concerned with the affairs of this life...

>>They neither marry nor are given in marriage

 

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Common Celibacy Questions that always Arise

 

Celibacy is not the Favor of Discouragement

Some discouraged men seem to often conclude that they have the gift of celibacy -- oh man, celibacy ‘gifting’ is a favor not a discouragement!

How do you know when you have the gift of celibacy?

 

How Permanent is The Favor of Celibacy

Understanding Celibacy and Marriage

>> get full questions from doc…

V: Sir I see in myself where I am able to say, I am made for only one man and if I have to wait for him all my life then I will not compromise in the meantime and Jesus himself will just be my man. However, I find myself having a hard time swallowing celibacy. The thought of shutting off marriage completely is very hard for me why is there this discrepancy?

V: I use to think “oh yea I want the gift of celibacy until I am married” but then I found out that celibacy was to replace marriage!! So since then it has been hard for me to amen and jump on board when we pray for the gift of celibacy.

 

Answers

 

Is Celibacy “Good” or “Not Good”?

From the beginning God made Adam incomlete, saying, "it is not good for man/Adam to be alone". God designed man to be "not good" and incomplet when alone.

Profoundly, Paul says, 'it is good for a man not to touch a woman'. Have we then reversed the saying of God? No way!

How then can we now say that God calls celebacy is good when God originally said it was not good?

The sacrifice of marriage is completely consistent with all other priciples of extreme crucifixion.

It is not good to kill someone, but it is good for that same person to follow Jesus and lay down their life. It is not physically good for a man to be single, just like it is not good for him to be killed, (and truly, it could be easier to be killed in one day than for a man to remain single for many days). It is admirable and auw striking to see someone courageously give themselves to martyrdom, and it is high time that indulgent fools started being amazed at the auw striking sacrifice of denying marriage for the excelent and surpassing glory of fighting for truth!

It is not good physically to be alone or to die, but it is good and amazing both to willingly lay down your life and to willingly lay down marriage. Both are amazing sweet sacrifices before God.

How then do theses paradoxes coexist? If you are not foolish these two thing easily work together just like every other principle of faith:

If anyone is in anointed one, they are a new creation...

For the first creation it is still not good for man to be alone and to die a martyr, but for the second creation it is good, as long as they have been given that special faith and favor to accept it as good.

And at this time in history, the severity of martyrdom and celebacy are now more available than ever as crowns for God's chosen to wear.

 

Ultra, Extra, Self-Denial For the Sake of Exclusivity

5/8/15

Paul: do not seek a wife

 

Marital & Celibate Sacrifices Compared/Weighed Together in Scales

12/14/15

As mysteriously glorious as marriage is, it is never Orthodox to exalt the privilege of marriage over the willing sacrifice of celibacy.

Despite all Protestant and fleshly insanity, the sacrificial cost of willing and spiritual celibacy is, by default nature, more than all the sacrifices toward sustaining marriage, although marital sacrifices can get pretty close when: (1) It is a great marriage, (2) the husband gives his life for his Bride (although a celibate martyr is still a greater sacrifice by default nature) (3) Parabolic redemption and other great works of heavenly truth upon the earth.

 

 

Celibacy & Greatness

Is a Girl’s Sacrifice for Celibacy Greater Than a Man’s?

11/29/15

 

Aye: 2) In the beginning: Adam existed, knew God, and was named/defined before he was married. But woman was not defined apart from man. Does it require a greater faith and sacrifice (and furthermore greater reward) for a female to be celibate--believing for all their needs to be completely met by God without Adam?

 

Aye: 2) *a greater faith for a female to be celibate than for a man.

 

11/29/15

 

Great Marriage vs. Excellent Celibacy

Where Is The Excellence Of Singleness When Marriage Could Be So Great?

 

Hopefully you have noticed that we are unapologetically bold and extreme to praise the blessed of favor and amazing mightiness of celibacy, as well as praising great marriage.

 

The single person has full access to the tantalizing intimacy with God in individual and corporate prayers, and truly, they apprehend it mightily if they are single in favor, but if you were going to get married in this life, you should marry a prayer meeting so that you might worship God at the same time as being with your spouse...

 

How is Great Marriage Similar to Celibacy?

 

H – ~May 2015?

h: Q: How is it that a the the great marriage is on the same plane as celibacy. Does all great marriage pertain to extreme sacrifice?

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H – 7/5/15

h: Is the fact that there is a lot of sacrifice involved with a great marriage, make it equal to and possibly greater than a life of celibacy? At least with biblical examples a life of celibacy seems to pertain to prophecy, is the fact that a great marriage has prophecy deeply intertwined with it make it equal to or more than celibacy?

h: I happy V : )

h: In regards to romance, what is the difference between heating upon and love?

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Righteous Sewing Person - May 2015

(A) Sir marrying Jesus twice is so appealing to me, it makes celibacy really hard for me to even want.

You mentioned to me that I should set my heart upon celibacy because that is what we are given, but I don’t know how to even begin doing this. It feels painful to imagine, why would anybody want this?

It seems that getting the gift of celibacy shuts off the opportunity to get married in this life also. To me that can feel as extreme as a woman tying her womb from having physical children because all she wants is spiritual children (this is just the closest example I could liken it to in my mind, I know tying your tubes is wrong and I know celibacy is a very good thing, I just did not know of any other example to express how I am feeling about celibacy)

Sir I see in myself where I am able to say, I am made for only one man and if I have to wait for him all my life then I will not compromise in the meantime and Jesus himself will just be my man. However, I find myself having a hard time swallowing accepting celibacy. Waiting for a husband my whole life seems different than completely shutting down the idea of ever getting married.

 I use to think “oh yea I want the gift of celibacy until I am married” but then I found out that celibacy was to replace marriage!! So since then it has been hard for me to “amen” and jump on board when we pray for the gift of celibacy.

(B) The thought of shutting off marriage completely is very hard for me, why is there this discrepancy? Could any of these discrepancies be tied into my lack of understanding of what it means to be a concubine or maidservant-slave (more on this in the paragraphs following) or is it that I need to know the monotheistic God more and experience his romance in prayer or probably both, or more that I am just not aware of?”

 

Some Answers: How Great Marriage Compares/Coorelates with The Greatness of Celibacy

H recently asked a really good question, and I hope you will endure with me a bit so that I may declare to you the whole matter.

Great marriage can be partly associated as best friends with celibacy, because

 

Nothing at all implies that great marriage and celibacy automatically get the same reward, nor even that a widow will automatically get the same reward as someone who has suffered their whole life in hurtful self-denial.

In most cases celibacy is truly more reward-able by default, but that does not automatically make them greater than Abraham, Hosea, Joseph and other Sacrificial Patriarchs -- in many ways we each need to closely follow the voice of God and make whatever special sacrifices of faith we are permitted to make

Truly, if I ever got married I would not switch my faith to be of a different greatness. I would still be a deep friend of those in self-denial, and I would be a best friend of celibates, because I have truly and faithfully served in that way until God might charge me otherwise. ("don't be afraid to take Marry home s your wife")

Celibacy and great marriage are best friends. Truly, if there are typically married couples, even if they were disciples, I would still default to draw closest to celibate people if I were married, because I still know the God of self denial. No one can say that I have not willingly paid every sacrifice God has allowed me to, nor can they say I would marry in my own will, since I have begged God for celibacy, and have continually differed marriage to others and have never sought to get anything out of my service.

Far, far Beyond the conception of most who will ever hear me in this life, I have taken upon myself the most unbearable pains and torchers and overwhelming tramas and sacrifices to remain single refusing to be comforted by any woman or lust or to please myself in any way.

I have been utterly shamed, chapened, rejected, hurt, wounded, tramatized, hated, insulted, accused of being gay (by numerous secular and church people), accused of being a sexul looser, assalted every day and countless dark hours most every night, insulted and shamed by the vilest of men and closest of friends, by stong and exalted men and proud cold blooded women, and hosts of demons, feeling my death upon every scrifice and self-contradiction.

I have cried out to God mightely for help for over 18 years, and have repeatedly been bitterly shamed, and harshly struck, and treated like gabage by God for my love of His purity. I have not ceased to get back up and hope in Him yet still, stirring up again my reverence and love for His truth and purity.

Although I have been gradually helped and made mightier and mightier in purity,

In regaurd to need, I say truly: to this day (5/28/15) God has not rewarded me or acknowledged me according to my sacrifice or honored me according to my great need.

I have abided for most of the past 10 years (2004-2015) without any personable, safe, and close comfort or friends, no one to receive my tears, or sympathise with my weakest temptations, no one to encurage me when my heart fails me, and even to this very day I am limping in seeking out the spiritual benefit of others without having my own emotional needs met. If I am up against deep set doubt and discouragement, I am alone. If I feel like I have lost my mind, I am on my own. If I need love, I am alone to hurt by myself. Only through prayer to God do I have approval or any tokens of love and value.

If I get the blessedness and consolation and relief and healing of marriage, I want to stand and say, "it was all God's fault", it was all God's doing, it was His idea, His command, His insistance on exaltation and greatness, and even still, I refuse to marry if it does not somehow increase my service to the good anouncement, and employee me in a great work to workout and proclaim greatness on the earth!

>scrip/tsk

Each will get his own proper corresponding reward at the revelation of Jesus

 

What Direction are We Going -- in These Teachings?

12/20/15

Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 7:04 PM
Subject: Celibacy QnA

 

By default I don't think about marriage...I don't know how much i would have thought about things if it weren't for Al bringing up romance when she read the bible and stuff...and somehow what she did was holy and I was struggling

 

I am perplexed at our overseer's good announcement...Sexual things/romance are at the base or near the base of what he wants to teach us..he said he didn't do a celibacy bbs in years but there's been countless romance bbs...I feel very perplexed as to why it's been like that...sometimes it's felt like he's counseling married people but then you look closer and no one is married...I guess it was to get you married to him but now that you're married...[we still can hardly get through a celibacy bbs...]

Specifically speaking, I really want to go after celibacy, I really like the idea, but feel contradicted when Sir has repeatedly said that I am the only one he's comfortable marrying off (like she's going in the wrong direction; and confused). But the concept of any of us girls getting married is so strange (because of our context). 

Sir makes these comments when there's no one (other male) around an it's really painful. My mind desires to go after celibacy but for some reason I feel dismantled. 

Feel like when Sir tried to go after celibacy- 'Thats cute but no' (on account of all the specific comments made towards her)...

 

so she's left to wonder and be distracted by marriage, but there's non use to this thought...and she feels like she caught in limbo land. She was told she should remain undefined...And she feels like if she doesnt have the gift of celibacy then she's crippled from going full force towards it cuz "marriage is still a possibility"

The possibility of marriage feels like an unresolvable hangnail, like she won't/can't get fulfilled until she gets married. As opposed to receiving great things from heaven as a celibate.

 

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The Nature of God's "Gender"

God's Gender God's sexuality

3/6/15; other date; 6/18/15; 11/4/15

 

It is a mystery that is hard to solve, but we can definitly see a difference in God when compared to the physical parable because the actual bride is made up of people without active individual genders, that somehow composite into a big woman. It is not just with the individuals but also moreso with the composit of them that God is intimate, and this happens in ways far beyond our current concepts.

 

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11/4/15

That he not stand naked at Judgment

Who’s intimacy is he avoiding in this case?

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Since God is a man, a father, and a husban, how masculine is God then?

 

By nature a parable means throwing two dissimilar things together. So by funadmental nature, God is not 'sexual' in the same essence we are, otherwise our gender would no longer be a parable but an equation. But our gender is a parable, and therefore at the very fundamental essence of that it is shown that God's gener is essentially different but mysteriously parallel with man, His image.

Furthermore our sexuality has been funadmentally tainted from the fall, and our defiled shame of our bodies makes our perception of our own sexuality distorted and pushes us even further away from the nature of God's holy 'gender'.

 

On one hand, God is so much a man that He has "seed", which is lit. "sperm" in Greek. No shame or erotic conotations are understood from this mention of "God's sperm" in 1st John or any other place.

 

But quite the contrary... On one hand "God's sperm" is spiritual, and births spiritually alive children of God, and on the other hand, "God's sperm" really is so masculine it actually, litterally impregnated Marry with Jesus! And yet, still, again, on the other hand, although God is so masculine that His seed can litterally impregnate a woman, yet "God's sperm" is still yet not erotic like our sexuality in that when God impregnated Marry He did not do it in a sexual way.

 

This 'non-erotic' masculinity is proved to be essentially different from ours because:

- had Marry's impregnation been a sexual encounter, it would have defiled her with 'sex outside of marriage'

- if Marry was truly defiled before marriage, then Joseph woud have followed through with the Jewish requirements to divorce Marry as he had originally intended.

- the very funadmental fact that Marry is said to have given a 'virgine birth' proves that God's essential goal was a non-defiling, non-sexual, non-fornicative, non-erotic impregnation that left Marry sexually inactive and pure while causing her to have a perfect and sin-free son.

 

In the same way, when humans are given in marriage on earth, their sexuality is the essential part of this relationship (as Jesus says in Mat19). But Jesus says they will not be given in marriage after the resurrection. And Paul speaks of sexual marriage and how the fassion this present age passing away... Therefore according to Jesus and Paul, we will not be relating sexually to God with the same essence we are given in marriage here...

 

There is a marriage supper coming for Jesus, but the profound intimacy and joining in heaven is of a surpassing essence that can only be partly understood by the parable of marriage and sexual intimacy hear on earth.

 

How then is God truly the essential reality of manliness as being the most manly man, Father, Husband, God and Lord? Ultimately some of us will have to marry Him before John even has a name for that (1Jo3). But for those who have been overwhelmingly empassioned by the clean romance of divine truth from heaven, these know why there is somethig coming that is much better than eaven marriage... Only from being blasted by truth can I, as a MAN, say that Jesus is so infinitly good that I would gladly hurt unspeakable pains for countless unbearable years without marriage in order to obtain that love and that truth for eternity from Jesus.

 

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Paul also acts as a spiritual mother without having perverted his physical sexuality, because spiritual genders are on a super-spiritual dimension/level.

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God was not created after our order, so none of the same gender rulls or essences apply back to Him.

 

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BBS: PurityPro: The Lust Unattractive People toward you Shows the Defilement of Visual Harlotry

9/13/14

 

 

You can feel the deep evil of Fornication when grubby and dirty men, whom you would never want near you, are touching your sexuality with their eyes.

Mentally disabled and gross people with demons really draw out the evil of fornication.

 

 

imagine you were walking down the dark ally of the ghetto i used to live in... with dangerous eyes sliming all up and down your body.... you should be creeped out, and that evil feeling of fear and repulive fear of being raped is something that artificial societies have avoided and through delusion of imaging and technology aforded a false sense of invincibility from the rape of harlotry that you should still fear if you practice imodesty / public nakedness.

 

 

We have removed the felt consequences of being a pervert, so that people are bold to murder sexuality in open daylight without shame or fear of the evil that is destrying them.

 

 

Deu_22:5 CAB  The clothing of a man shall not be on a woman, neither shall a man put on a woman's dress; for everyone that does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God.

 

 

>> honring one's own gender is the point here. Managing your own sexuality in honor is the first priority of purity! God cares about what you do to your own self, even if you think "no one else is hurt".

 

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When an Unattractive Person Lusts After Your Immodesty, He Testifies Against The Pollutions of Your Harlotry

1/6/15

>> there is another excerpt about “Unattractive” people testifying against you… (a note above, and another one below…)

 

Take a moment and Imagine the most defiled and filthy person on earth.... He has smoked his lungs out, and shot himslf up with so many drugs that he is fried. He has rotten breath that smells like a mixtures for cigarettes and a multitues of other drugs, and he smells loathsom and sick from all the filth he lives in. His skin is tained with various collor from the sicknesses he has acquired through over indulgence in every sin. He has stolen many times and spent his time in the horrors of the worst jails. He has fornicated, molested, and rapped many. He has every STD you have ever heard of, and many you have not.

 

 

Then your car breaks down while driving home late at night, and it happens to break down right in the middle of the ghetto I used to live in, and you are forced to swiftly walk down the center road of that nightborhood which has very little lighting and on both sides of the road their are drug dealers and professional prostitutes. Many of them have knives and guns, and they are all hanging with their "ghetto thug" friends and gangs. You can feel their breath from the road as you pass in front of their house. You feel the violation of their eyes crawle over your whole body as you walk through their neighborhood. If there is anything to lust after, or even possibly imagine, their eyes are already defiling you, and a few steps later you start to hear them "wolf wissle" and make other sounds at you passing by, and some even start trying to call you into the shaddows where they leark in the allys... Your stomach sinks with dread as sexual coments and rude joke are thrown at you, and you wonder if they see how fearful you are and if any will suddenly grab you from within the shaddows and your only wish is that you could run and get our of this neighborhood without being rapped, and you are terrified about what clothing that you put on, or rather what clothing you did not put on, and wish you could completely hide your entire body from their dangerous imaginations and defiling looks as their eyes keep creeping and crawling up and down all over your vulnerable and exposed body. If you ever thought that you were dressing modestly, now you hate yourself for leaving the house with such thine clothing, and wish to God you could change and sink into some inpenitrable protestion that would keep you far and safe from the sick imaginations of the filthy and dnagerous thugs defiling you in every way imaginable in their heart.

 

 

Even though you may have not physically walked through this exact sceen, it is good for you to walk through this sceen now by faith, and with sober reverence, let the God who controles all evils teach you how to reverence and protect your body before such a sceen happens. Consider that God does use the thret and forwarning of rape and shame as motivation for you to repent of shameful imodest now before it happens. And maybe you have not been in this extreem of an environment like I have, but maybe you or someone you know has a been in a similar enough situation to relate to the truble and pain I am describing;and you should use every bit of reflection you can to learn the lessons God wants you to learn now, and 'forsee evel and hide yourself'! Know for sure that the nerviousness of walking through the middle of a dark and dangerous ghetto and the sexual vulnerability you feel when people are shamelessly looking over your body and watching for a chance to exploit what looks pleasurable to them, this tells you vital truth about the nature of your body and how you are supposed to put on clothes. A tragic side effect of ultra-safe societies is that women do not fear being molested when they walk immodestly in the open, but reverent people of faith should fear fornicating and molesting and being defiled at all times even when they don't currently feel physically threatened.

 

 

At any moment God can make you pay severly for what immodesty you have committed, and by the time you find yourself in that ghetto, you have no basis to garentee that God will help you, since you did not care beforehand that you were defiling your sexuality and disrespecting the creator freely all the times when you did not think you were in danger.

 

 

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The Blessed Responsibility of Marriage Can Bring Judgment

The blessedness of marriage has a way of bringing on a greater judgment due to a greater responsibility.

Judah and Tamar

The men were evil and were judged and kill after going into Tamar

In Tobit Sarah had many man die

The Sadducees had a woman among them who inherited seven different men...

God may just be more likely to judge and kill you whenever you partake of the privilege and exaltation of marriage.

 

 

And if you defile this blessed parable and tamper with it "the lord is an avenger of all such". God has gender as the apple of His eye, and takes sexual sins as being among the most personally insulting crimes you can do against Him.

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If "everyone who looks toward a woman to heat himself up in lust uon her has alreay committed adultery with her in that of his heart" then it is also true that, "whoever exposes the sexual features of a woman to the eyes of a man commits rape"

12/19/14

 

> comp. Other insp...

 

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The Personal Guilt of Immodesty

How to make yourself overwhelmingly irresistible so that a godly man cannot rest at night until he has done something to seek you out in marriage

12/14/14

 

» refine title... The internal/personal/intrensic/solitary/self-referential

 

The sin of Imodesty is primarily about the harlotry of the harlot themselves, and is only secondarily about those who may lust

 

 

Is it ok for an older women to dress imodestly? We still uncomfortablly say "no"... But isn't it because in this case we are focused on something different now, such as her personal shame from doing that?

The problem is that we often inadvertently end up flatering a harlot when she dresses imodest, and we do that on a subjective glorification of her "attractiveness", and we fail to ojectively condemn her inherent shame. Instead of feeling morally ugly and shamed for imodesty, she actually feels complemented and then told not do to that which makes men admire and complement her... Do you yet see the problem here?

But instead, when God addresses imodesty, both figureative as well as litteral harlotry alike, he does not focuse on the men who are caused to lust but on the shame of the pervert who exposes her sexuality in public. And instead of complementing her seduction, he speak of judging her shame, and even making her repulsive to those who fornicated with her. Now this is the real motivation to not dress imodesty! God will make you uggly and hated and shamed by your lovers with whome you have fornicated!

 

 

God does not risk flatering her for her success in potentially snaring numerous men with her good looks, but instead condemns her own shame and moral uggliness for making her gender worthless and cheap and repulsive to a holy God who demands purity, honor, and exclusivity before He is willing to be enthawed with her beauty. A woman's internal value goes down when the most Manly man in the universe (God) hats the pollutions of her harloty, and instead of making herself more attractive, imodesty actually makes her more hateful, repulsive, shameful, abominable, abhorant, and rejected.

A woman should know from God and from godly men that she is not worth marrying if she is not holy and exclusively resurved for one man alone. Women should finally feel the realiity that a man of God will seek to be like God, and her chances of being admired and considered for marriage will be just about zero if she is even slighly immodest. A potential husband, who will love adore and cherish you for ythe reast of your days, will be repulsed from you and repelled by your appeals if you are showing yourself to everyone. I have told men: if you are being tempted by the way she dresses, or if she flirt with you, then you can know by this confirmation that so far is not God's will for you to even consider her. Whatever she flrts with you to get you interestedin her before marriage, she is also liable to do with others after you marry her.

And just the shear fact that other man are able to fornicate with your apearance and you give them an occation to be invited to sleep with you in their hearts says that you are an adultress before even getting married!

Now if you are letting men sleep with your sexuality and polluting your precious things in the eyes of dirty men, what holiness and clean purity would a godly man look forward to if he ever even came arround to considering you for marriage? Are you going to be holy for him, and reverence him, and have your heart set on doing him good all of his days while in the mean time you are entertaining yourself by having every common man have their heart set on your body every day?

Cheap harlot! You should care more about a man of God who cares for your value rather than a pervert who cares for your shame and fornication! But in mst cases you would rather be a famious harlot for now with many fornications rather than to gain one husband who will lavish holy, honorable, exclusive, and blessed love and value on you for the rest of your lives.

But just as you have fornicated with the eyes of many men by your irreverant nakedness in public, so also your hypothetical husband will continue fornicating with many women after you are married. Neither you nore your spouse will be monogamous to each other, and since you are used to quickly swtching to the most convenient pleasure, your chances of staying together for the rest of your lives is slim...

A holy man wants a holy woman. If you attack his eyes with your fornication, he will look elsewere for the precious holiness and clean virtue that every reverent man longs to see.

Out of All of the rare and tantalising qualities that a Godly man wants to see before considering a woman for marriage, none of them even come close to risking imodesty or harlotry or even flirtation.

 

 

It is this worthlessness of being utterly rejected and loathed by God, and even a Godly man or potential husband, that a woman ought to tak to heart and fear God, and be intrensically motivated to flee her own perversions and moral uggliness for the hope of virtue that is so attractive and precious that no sane man can resist praiseing...

(Not God no even a potential husband, nor even a potential brother or father)

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Put this with the fact that unattractive men lust after you...

 

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YT: How to strongly persuade/compel/"Seduce" a Godly Man to Marry You

12/14/14

This is the reverent alternative to "seduction"

> we are talking about a REAL man of God, no matter how strict, who is needing to get married

> we are not talking about a church guy, because that is easy and you can get that info from anywhere else. They have hormones like anyone else... (All you need to do is seduce a little more subtlly and mask it with church words and you will be well on your way....)

 

This is the reverent alternative to "seduction"...

And it starts w Gen and Rachel being virtuous and reverent and pure

 

Most men give you fornication and cheapen you to a harlot for mear fun and temporary pleasure.

A godly man gives you life-long marriage, and makes you into a parable of the pure Bride of Christ. And truly, the way a godly man feels about you is how God feels about you, because this man is made very different because of simply obeying what God says.

Since a godly man feels like God feels about you, you should take his considerations of you deeply to heart, because as much as they agree with the Bible this man tells you how God makes you valuable. God is manly, and a godly man tells you about attractions and priorities that are from God.

 

(should reverently prefer to please the please of virtue)

 

 

And sure, a godly man deeply wants and deeply needs you to be visually glorious and overwhelmingly exciting, but realise this: there are plenty of glamerous harlots today. If that was what he was looking for, he could easily have stopped somewhere else for a fun time, (and would be no man of God). But it is infinitly more important to a godly man that your glory be intact and preserved for truth, because a godly man is looking for marriage, not dating.

 

 

If you ae not living visually virgine-like, then your beauty is worthless to a man who knows God. It would be better for you to be lacking outside and amazing inside than to be worthless inside and outside.

 

 

( and even if he stopps at your door, he would not be a godly (man, but just another fornicator like everyone else.)

so that, as utterly painful as it may be, a Godly man will prefer less)

 

....

Gentle quiet submissive humble

pro31

1pe3

2ti2

Etc.

 

Don't be a bear

The wickedness of a woman chamges her face...

Pray that all phsical marks of previous sins would go away, as much as possible

A man's wisdom makes his face shine...

 

 

Tobit

Be mindful, wise, and fair... And in that order...

 

Pray for hrs every day

Don't say: I want you to spend the rest of your life with me but I cannot spend more than 15min a day in prayer

 

No dat

wia

Etc.

 

Q.n.a.s

 

How do I even find a godly man?

> Get someone to submit to -- if you have the incredible (although unlikely) advantage and blessedness of a wise, godly, and spiritual father, then you would go through him, but in most cases you will need to also recrut a spiritual overseer and or at least a Naomi to help you.

> where? -- get involved w Biblical discipleship (people zealously helping each other obey all the Bible)

> a lot more can be said about no dating at Rebekka's qattitude...

 

 

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12/10/14

 

Behold, the first priority of real wisdom!

Before you get anywhere else, you have to be true and you have to be holy – pure/clean!

Jas_3:17 But the wisdom from above is first · [truly] pure [μὲν ἁγνή], then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.

Jas_3:17  ἡ δὲ ἄνωθεν σοφία πρῶτον μὲν ἁγνή ἐστιν, ἔπειτα εἰρήνική, ἐπιεικής, εὐπειθής, μεστὴ ἐλέους καὶ καρπῶν ἀγαθῶν, ἀδιάκριτος καὶ ἀνυπόκριτος.

 

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BBS: PurityPro: Falling In Love, etc.

bbs: PurPro

4/17/14

 

"Falling" in Love = "Being Ravished"

Uncontrolable passion/lust after another...

Pro/etc.: why be ravised in the arms of a stranger... (i.e. Someone who does not belong to you!)

Vs.

Always be ravised by your spouses love...

the excitement of unplanned / acedental lust (falling in love) is because it is illicit... - I.e. Disiny says "stolen water is sweet"

You start to praise the acedental beginning of fornication

 

 

Falling in "Love" = Loving Someone's intimacy --

Yes, this love is unlawful, because you are not allowed to love the intimacy that is adulterating and violating someone else's body.

 

Unlawful love of the secrete intimacy of someone else you do not own, this is defiling to engage.

 

Marrying Schechem is reasonable, as Jacob w Rachel, because they are available, and marriage is permissible.

 

Most "love" falling is not marriage fulfilling.

 

 

Most falling is illicit, and therefore sinful and defiling, and in the end does not last to make you selflessly sacrifice to keep a marriage for life.

 

BBS: Jesus Was NOT Married!

BBS: PurityPro: Dying to your "seed"

4/7/14

 

 

Isa_53:8-10  In His humiliation His judgment was taken away; who shall declare His generation? For His life is taken away from the earth; because of the iniquities of My people He was led to death.  (9)  And I will give the wicked for His burial, and the rich for His death; for He practiced no iniquity, nor craft with His mouth.  (10)  The Lord also is pleased to purge Him from His stroke. If you give an offering for sin, Your soul shall see a long-lived seed;

 

"a few weeks ago I got something in prayer, and this morning I found it in the bible!" (4/7/14)

 

 

BBS: PurityPro: why fornication is wrong

12/31/13

 

Marry did not know a man before marrige

 

1Co_7: – says you have to deal w burning if you are not married... only solution is marriageiage

 

BBS: PurityPro: Uncovering Shame Cuts All the Way to The Soul

11/22/13

 

You already know this, but the Bible also teaches this in a very profound statement

 

 

Eze_16:5 WEB  No eye pitied you, to do any of these things to you, to have compassion on you; but you were cast out in the open field, for that your person [soul] was abhorred, in the day that you were born.

Eze_16:5 CAB  Nor did My eye pity you, to do for you one of all these things, to feel at all for you; but you were cast out on the face of the field, because of the deformity [devauling view of private parts] of your person [soul], in the day in which you were born.

Eze_16:5 Greek  ןהὲ ἐצוףבפן ὁ ὀצטבכלע לןץ נףןפןנןיףבףןי ם ך נםפשם פןפשם פןנבטום פי נףן, ךבὶ ἀנוססצחע ננסףשנןם פןנוהןץ פףךןכיפחפי פע רץקע ףןץ ם ᾗ ἡלסᾳ ἐפקטחע.

 

 

Bbs: PurityPro:

>> see recent additions to 'how to defeat lust' (Prayer L???)

 

Bbs: PurityPro: Love Is A Fire

10/9/13-10/10/13

 

- Song says it is (ch8?)

- Aptomai is a touch that lights on fire

- 1co7 says needing marriage and remaining without it can be a bad fire (i.e. fire on the carpet instead of the fire place)

 

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Bbs: PurityPro: 3 Ties: MIDDLE/ Passive Ties in the Bible

10/2/13-10/3/13

 

Doing warefare against the harlotry of wanting to be lusted after

 

- it seems absolom might have been self-obsorbed with long hair, and this was part of what killed him

- Isea_3:16... Harlot walking women have decked out their image publically shining themselves

- several times 1co7 warns against buring alone (either being unmarried, or away from your spouse)

- see: 'you say "I am. And there is no other'"

- beauty is not for yourself!!! -- get all notes... From somewhere (bbs rtf?) & Al! Add: women do not understand their own beauty - it was specifically designed for men, and without men, women would not only not need beauty, but they would not have even been created. - lucifer gloried in his own beauty for himself.

- Esther listened to what the Unic said she should where.

- Jesabelle painted herself for public prostitution/harlotry - which is related to the proud mentions of her harlotry in Rev, and also Herodious' filthiness which caused her daughter, Salome, to prostitute and show her sexuality infront of men when Herod had a banquet.

- Paul & Paul: no braided hair/public adorning

- self control/i am crucified

- Harlotry In general

- SinL? Soft? Defiled?

- your body is to be a holy temle, not a sexual toy. Holy means that God has revealed a perscribed service for the use of your body in strengent and restricted (m7) purity, and you don't get to do whatever you want to do with it.

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- sinning sexually is sinning into your own body

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- Priests: God did not want them to enflame in their own sexuality before His holy service - unlike the priests who could leave the temple, it is clear from the 'body temple' teaching in 1co6, that even more purity is demanded from the holy use of a body that is to be a temple 24/7

- when a yong man fled naked, this is very bitter, shameful, and grevious to recount in the heat of Jesus' apostles abandoning Him.

- this condemns (non-marital) "skinny dipping" - we are supposed to consider such things as tradgeties, not fun games...

- Act: the demon beat them, and they fled wounded and naked

- Peter put on clothes when he encountered a public situation.

 

- song of songs: inflaming yourself "in your own sexuality" should only be done with your spouse.

- 1Co7 even tells married people to return to their spouse quickly after fasting, lest they be tempted with sexual thing while away from their spouse.

 

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BBS: Purity pro?: Arpox used as Rape?

10/3/13; 10/7/13

 

add:

it is bad because, the thief snatches the sheap

 

it only starts to be sexual when it is finally creatively applied to the power of violent eyes :

 

Pro_6:25  - G4884 > G726

 

G726

Jdg_21:21

 

(also see: G138 – sezure/stealing... even by the gov.)

 

Judith

 

Jdt_12:16 Brenton  Now when Judith came in and sat down, Holofernes his heart was ravished [מףפח] with [נ᾿] her, and his mind [רץק] was moved [ףבכוטח], and he desired greatly [ךבפונטץלןע ףצהסב] her company [ףץדדוםףטבי לופ᾿ בפע]; for he waited a time to deceive [נבפףבי] her, from the day that he had seen her.

Jdt_12:16 Greek  ךבוףוכטןףב םנוףום ֹןץהיט, ךבמףפח ךבסהב ֿכןצסםןץ נ᾿ בפם, ךבףבכוטח רץקבפן, ךבὶ ἦם ךבפונטץלןע ףצהסב פןףץדדוםףטבי לופ᾿ בפע· ךבὶ ἐפסוי ךביסם פןῦ ἀנבפףבי בפם צ᾿ ἧע לסבע והום בפם.

 

Jdt_16:9 Brenton  Her sandals ravished [סנבףום] his eyes, her beauty took his mind prisoner, and the fauchion passed through his neck.

Jdt_16:9 Greek  פףבםהכיןם בפע סנבףום צטבכלם בפן, ךבפךככןע בפע קלבכפיףום רץקם בפן, היכטום ὁ ἀךיםךחע פם פסקחכןם בפן.

 

sandal seduction

>> comp. Song

 

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"captivate, ravish, LXX Ju. 16.9, Plu. Ant. 28 ." (L&S)

 

Plutarchus Biographus et Philosophus [Plu.] i/ii A.D. Moralia ed. G. N. Bernardakis, 7 vols., Leipzig (T.) 1888-96; cited by vol. (2) and page of Wyttenbach: Vitae Parallelae, ed. C. Sintenis, 5 vols., Leipzig (T.) 1881-65; ed. C. Lind- skog & K.

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Ant. = Antonius

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Plutarchus Antonius 28 ravish

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"Now Antonius was so ravished [סנזש] with the love of Cleopatra, that though his wife Fulvia had great wars, and much ado with Caesar for his affairs, and that the army of the Parthians (the which the king's lieutenants had given to the only 1 leading of Labienus) was now assembled in Mesopotamia, ready to invade Syria; yet (as though all this had nothing touched him) he yielded himself to go with Cleopatra unto Alexandria, where he spent and lost in childish sports (as a man might say) and idle pastimes, the most precious thing a man can spend (as Antiphon saith), and that is, time. "

Plutarch, Antonius

Thomas North, Rev. Walter W. Skeat, Ed.

Cross-references in general dictionaries to this page (8): LSJ, סנזש

http://nlp.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.03.0078%3Atext%3DAnt.%3Achapter%3D28

10/7/13

 

This Next ref, actually, Almost proves that Arpox Does Not Have to do with Violent Raping (although there are good conotations in the rapture):

 

Zec_14:2 CAB  And I will gather all the Gentiles to Jerusalem to war, and the city shall be taken, and the houses plundered [היבסנבדףןםפבי], and the women ravished [לןכץםטףןםפבי -- where we get the word and original idea of being molested]; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, but the rest of My people shall not be utterly cut off from the city.

 

Zec_14:2 Greek  ךבὶ ἐניףץםמש נםפב פὰ ἔטםח נֹוסןץףבכחל וע נכולןם, ךבὶ ἁכףופבי נכיע, ךבהיבסנבדףןםפבי בןךבי, ךבבדץםבךוע לןכץםטףןםפבי, ךבὶ ἐמוכוףופבי פὸ ἥליףץ פע נכושע ם בקלבכשףίᾳ, ןהךבפכןינןי פןכבןלןץ ןלὴ ἐמןכוטסוץטףים ך פע נכושע.

 

this is the actual Wording that IS Used for Rape:

 

Gen_39:12 [MT: caughtH8610 (taphash); LXX: נוףנףבפן – same as 'uncircumsize']

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Deu_22:28  IfH3588 a manH376 findH4672 a damselH5291 that is a virgin,H1330 whichH834 is notH3808 betrothed,H781 and lay holdH8610 [LXX: גיבףלוםןע – does violence to] on her, and lieH7901 withH5973 her, and they be found;H4672 

 

Gen_34:2 CAB  And Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, the ruler of the land, saw her, he took her and lay with her, and violated her.

 

Gen_34:2 Greek  ךבוהום בפם ׃ץקול ץἱὸע ֵללשס ׳ןססבןע ὁ ἄסקשם פע דע ךבכבגם בפם ךןילטח לופ᾿ בפע ךבὶ ἐפבנוםשףום בפם.

 

2Sa_13:14  But Amnon would not hearken to her voice; and he prevailed against her, and humbled her, and lay with her.

2Sa_13:14  ךבןך טכחףום ֱלםשם פןῦ ἀךןףבי פע צשםע בפע ךבךסבפבשףום נס בפם ךבὶ ἐפבנוםשףום בפם ךבὶ ἐךןילטח לופ᾿ בפע.

also compare:

Pro_5:19 CAB  Let your loving deer and your graceful colt company with you, and let her be considered your own, and be with you at all times, for ravished with her love you shall be greatly increased.

Pro_5:19 Greek  כבצןע ציכבע ךבנכןע ףם קבספשם ליכופש ףןי, הὲ ἰהב דוףטש ףןץ ךבףץםףפש ףןי ם נבםפךביסῷ ἐם דס פפבפחע ציכίᾳ ףץלנוסיצוסלוםןע נןככןףפע ף.

 

Son_4:9 CAB  My sister, my spouse, you have ravished my heart; you have ravished my heart with one of your eyes, with one chain of your neck.

Son_4:9 Greek  ךבסהשףבע לע, הוכצלןץ םלצח, ךבסהשףבע לע םὶ ἀנὸ ὀצטבכלם ףןץ, ם ליᾷ ἐםטלבפי פסבקכשם ףןץ.

 

Son_6:5 CAB  (6:4) Turn away your eyes from before me, for they have ravished me: your hair is as flocks of goats which have appeared from Gilead.

Son_6:5 Greek  נףפסורןם צטבכלןע ףןץ נוםבםפןם לןץ, פי בפןםונפסשףם לו. פסקשלףןץ ע דכבי פם בדם, בἳ ἀםוצםחףבם נפןֳבכבבה.

 

4Ma_18:8 Brenton  No destroyer of the desert, or ravisher of the plain, injured me; nor did the destructive, deceitful snake, make spoil of my chaste virginity; and I remained with my husband during the period of my prime.

4Ma_18:8 Greek  ןהὲ ἔצטויסם לו כץלום סחלבע צטןסוע ם נוהίῳ, ןהὲ ἐכץלםבפלןץ פὰ ἁדםפע נבסטוםבע כץלום נפחע ציע.

 

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Bbs: purPro: Men Visually Raped

10/29/13

- common misunderstanding esp, among unmarried women is that a man has to "be willing" in order to be "raped", but, although it is in a different way, men do not have to be sexually "willing" in order to be raped they just need to be living.

Lot was essentially 'raped' by his two daughters and did not even know what happened.

In the same way, men do not have to be willing or even attracted in order for them to be sexually violated, wounded, altered by seeing a woman. Female sexuality is designed to imediatly enflame a man without his forthought.

For men, especially young men in moderncultures, *seeing is lusting*.

Only by great supernatural intervention can a man be rescued from this, and to persue cleaness, this is why men have to always look down when walking in the filthy public atmosphere we have normalised in modern cultures.

)story: when talking about issues, theologically we men knew Jesus would not sin, but it was still vary hard to imagine just how...

 

"lust" is an instintainious wound that is imediatly stabbed into the whole heart soul and mind of a man, and is chemically seared into the brain so quickly and so potantly, it not only completly destroys a man morally before he has a chance to think about it, but the violent image of what is seen is chemically seared and stuck in the forfront of the memory and cannot be escaped unless something comes along to undo the damage. No wonder Paul said marriage was the way to avoid fornication!

)refuge

)be captivated by her love always...not think of a harlot/another woman

)tearing down strongholds

 

Women cannot be complacent any longer about the way God designed men and women.

By making women like this for men, God has ordained the most exteme modesty for women at all times outside of the home.

The beauty of women was not desiged for themselves, but for their men. Bring it out in public is a sexual prostitution of visual perportions that cannot be ignored.

See: gen2 Adam and Eve

 

What is the ultimate answer for men, especially in the terrible cases where men must remain single?

Get discipled and have supernatural training to actually deal with hidden snares and lust ties, and finally learn how not lust!

Here is an enormious secret that no one else knows because no one else is willing to pay the price to get this deep and extreme:

A man mus first be committed to not loking at a woman's hair before he is able to not be destroyed by her body. Get clean with what you wrongly thought you had a right to look at, and then you are a candadate for conquoring what you cannot reach, especially if you give yourself to disicipleship and extreme amounts of prayer.

 

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Bbs: Purity Pro

10/1/13

 

Visual Adultery and Fornication are both lust issues from the heart!:

Mat 15,

Job: not to look at a maid - look up Heb/Gr

 

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Bbs: Purity Pro

The Intrinsic Need For Modesty

7/14/13

Modesty is not primarily about preventing others from "stumbing" or "lusting", but about preventing YOU yourself from being prostituted!

It is not merly for their sake, but for yours, so you will not be worthless and filthy, so you will not be evil and shaeless in your shame. It is required for you to persue value and eternal life, and shame is the evil that will make you deserve hell if you choose it!

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if you are called to the gift of celebacy, then you are obligated to live your whole life content "without need" (as Paul says), just as though your lower body part were cut off (i.e. you make yourself a unic, as Jesus says). There is not one ownce of sexual indulgence if the very definition of your sexuality is ruthlessly cut off for the sake of God's kingdom!

If you are not called to celibacy, then the only answer which Paul gives is marriage: "it is better to marry than to burn" this is fleeing fornication, and we see that any burning passion outside of marriage is strictly forbidden: if you are celibate perpetually, you are spiritually equal with those who have been "fixed" and made unics, and if you are like most most people who have a need for marriage, then you should seek to run into it soon so that there is no chance of burning in cheapening fornication in the meantime. And even if you are married, Paul still tells you to run to your spouse so that the satan will not tempt you by being exposed to burning while away from your spouse.

Sexuality is either completely chaneled into marriage or it is completly "cut off" as an over abounding and special crucified sacrifice for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He who can take hold of such a particular excelency, let him make room for it. But he who needs marriage, let him find it. But in all ways let no man allow sexual indulgence outside of the marriage which God has ordained and blessed. Let no one think he has any right to pleasure when he should flee fornication and even cut off body parts if need be.

 

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Importance of Visual Love:

This is often debased and treated as more selfish and lustful, but this actually has an ordained ncesity and very holy and righteous place in marriage.

this is often very hard for women to come to terms with, but it is very Biblical

 

- Song of Songs

- Psa 45: the king desires your beauty

- Deu 21-ish...?/Exo 21-ish ?

- Esther - it does not say, "gather the women w the best personality", it says gather the most beautyful women.

- David: seek out a beautyful woman in the kingdom

 

As long as a woman is gentle, quiet, submissive and humble, she can virtually always work as a wife for any sane and reasonable man. A woman's place is actually to be defined by her man, not to bring all this determination to the sceen.

 

Just be wise and extremely feminine, and there will be lots of bliss if a Godly man is attracted to a woman.

 

So also God does not get all impressed about what we bring to the table, but first is enthrawled with *Holiness* (i.e. the beauty of Holiness) and then after that, He defines you.

 

Pro 31 does say 'she brings her treasure from afar' and Song says, 'i have laid up many good things for you'

 

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Premarital Visual Love

 

Jacob with Rachel (although, chastening happened)

Wis_8:2, etc. ! – ἐφίλησα… ἐραστὴς… τοῦ κάλλους αὐτῆς

 

>> replace all NIV refs

>> add:

Brothers guard purity

Gen_34:1, etc.

Lev_19:20

Son_8:_

>> 8/9/12

the closest it came to dating in the Bible: - she saw that he was not given to her... (gen ~34); - Saul's first born would have been given to David, she was given to someone else; - look at tsk for more examples

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12/16/12

Most people see any remaining social restrictions of sexual expression as merely toys to play games with, to see who can most effectively overthrough intimidating restrictions the most, and skillfully nagvigate any social boundaries to obtain the indulgence in sexual pollusion

 

- how skimpy can we dress?

- how subtly can we flirt and seduce?

- how much immorality can we get away with in broud daylight?

 

But God put these HOLY boundaries on sexuality, and He has gurenteed to destroy any who toy with His beloved and special creation.

 

most people see the social boundaries of shame and limits of any "modesty" or any "propriety" (if it eaven exists in their mind) as merely social games to play with sexuality and see who can "win" and who can most potantly overcome these boundaries

 

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The Vanity and Foolishness of Pornography

 

Wis_15:4-6 Brenton  For neither did the mischievous invention of men deceive us, nor an image spotted with divers colours, the painter's fruitless labour;  5  The sight whereof enticeth fools to lust after it, and so they desire the form of a dead image, that hath no breath.  6  Both they that make them, they that desire them, and they that worship them, are lovers of evil things [κακῶν ἐρασταὶ], and are worthy to have such things to trust upon.

 

Moved Back to Prayer List…

How to Fight Thinking You are supposed to Marry Someone

I am not TRULY tempted because of how special and appealing they are, but because of how much in need I am.

*Anything that is unsound is demonically produced

*It will feel and seem like it is God talking, but it is profoundly unsound!

*The Holy Spirit does not speak based on lust

*“I am crucified…”

*Ministry, hearing God’s voice for people, does not happen when I’m not crucified.

*I am always truly free when I’m not going after marriage.

*Haven’t I always asked for either a divine setup like Isaac, or celibacy?

*God has not been displeased with me being crucified and considering nothing romantic at all.

*The physical evidence so far is that I’m not going to marry.

*If it stays like this, - without a word - and I acted upon it, I would be compromising my calling for favor, and I know that!

*evidently someone else’s spouse

*always, treat as sisters in every case

 

 

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1Th_4:2-9  For you know what charge we gave you through the Lord Jesus. 3  For this is the will of God: your holiness,38 [or “sanctification or “purity”] that you abstain from fornication [lit. prostitution; fig. (by application) sex before marriage] 4  that every one of you know how to possess his vessel in holiness38 and honor, 5  not in passionate lust, in the same way as the Gentiles who don't know God; 6  that no one go beyond5233 [or “take advantage of”] and defraud4122 his brother in this matter; because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as also we have forewarned you and testified. 7  For God has not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness38.  8  Therefore he who rejects this doesn't reject man, but God, who has also given unto us His Holy Spirit.  9  But concerning brotherly love… (WEB+KJV -Retranslated)

 

1Th_4:2-9 KJB  Because you know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus,  3  because this is the will of God, your holiness, that you should abstain from fornication:  4  That every one of you know how to possess his own vessel in holiness and honor;  5  Not in the passion of lust just as, also, the nations [non-Jews] who don’t know God:  6  That no one go beyond [i.e. the limits] and steal from [or overreach or defraud] his brother in this matter: because on account of this the Lord is the avenger concerning all these things, as we have also forewarned you and fully testified.  7  Because God has not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.  8  So consequently, the one who despises does not despise man, but God, who has also given unto us His Holy Spirit.  9  But concerning brotherly love…

 

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From: Harry Schaumburg [mailto:harry@stonegateoffice.com]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 8:02 AM
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Hi Josiah: 

 

Everything in the books False Intimacy and Undefiled address physical adultery, as does our intensive counseling program that has been helping people in that situation for 20 years. If you have further question, please call or email me.

 

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